Bill Moss named new Naples city manager

National search for Naples manager lands Marco Island’s leader

For the past two days, Marco Island City Manager Bill Moss was full of nervous energy.

Candidate Bill Moss, right, is congratulated by another finalist, Linda Tucker, left, as a third, Pat Salerno, center, looks on after Moss was notified the city council voted him to be the new Naples city manager on Tuesday during an afternoon meeting.

Photo by GREG KAHN, Daily News

Candidate Bill Moss, right, is congratulated by another finalist, Linda Tucker, left, as a third, Pat Salerno, center, looks on after Moss was notified the city council voted him to be the new Naples city manager on Tuesday during an afternoon meeting.

He had spent countless hours preparing and interviewing for a job that would pluck him from his Marco Island home. It was as if, Moss said, he was applying for his first job all over again.

But on Tuesday, after about six minutes and three votes, Naples City Council voted 6-1 to hire Moss as Naples city manager.

“I had butterflies in my stomach,” Moss said after the announcement. “They were very attentive, and they never let on who they were voting for.”

Councilman Bill Willkomm cast the dissenting vote. Willkomm said he supported Chatham, Mass., Town Manager William Hinchey.

“There were more-qualified candidates appropriate to the city of Naples,” Willkomm said. “I was hoping to give the city of Naples a fresh start with a new leader. We missed an opportunity.”

Hinchey was the City Council’s second choice and will be tapped as city manager if contract negotiations with Moss fall through.

Mayor Bill Barnett said negotiations with Moss would begin immediately following Tuesday’s meeting.

As Marco Island city manager, Moss makes $161,032 a year. In addition to his yearly salary, Moss receives an additional 38 percent of his base salary “in lieu of, and as an alternative to, any and all benefits relating to deferred compensation, health insurance, dental insurance, life insurance and retirement contributions.”

Moss’ current contract also provides a car allowance and a cell phone for both business and personal use.

Former Naples City Manager Bob Lee made $154,529 a year. He left the job for a faculty position at the Askew School of Public Administration at Florida State University in Tallahassee. Chet Hunt is acting city manager in Naples.

Barnett said he expected to come to terms with Moss in the coming days. Council then would need to approve the contract during the Nov. 7 meeting.

Moss has been the 10-year-old Marco Island’s only city manager since he was hired in 1997. Prior to coming to Marco Island, Moss held the city manager position in both North Myrtle Beach, S.C., and Atlantic Beach in Florida.

While on Marco, Moss has been at the center of several controversial decisions, including one to install sewer lines in the neighborhoods still on septic tanks.

“I think he’s a class act guy and he’s certainly earned his stripes on Marco Island,” Barnett said.

The seven-year project — currently in its third year — will be paid through $100 million in special assessments. By the end of the year, the city expects that 60 percent of single-family homes will have sewer capability. Residents then would have a year to hook up to the system.

Marco Island resident Godfrey Davies said Tuesday he had hoped Marco Island’s new city manager would handle issues like the sewer replacement program differently.

“This is a small step for Bill Moss to Naples, but a big step forward for the city of Marco Island,” he said. “Bill Moss was the glue that held the (septic tank replacement program) together.”

Naples City Councilman Gary Price said Tuesday he wasn’t worried that Moss’ Marco Island troubles might follow him to Naples.

Price said he received e-mails from Marco Island residents that either touted Moss’ abilities or begged the Naples City Council to take him off their hands. Price said that the majority of e-mails he received were favorable toward Moss.

Marco Island City Councilman Ted Forcht was one of those people who sent Naples City Council an e-mail Monday encouraging them to hire Moss. On Tuesday, Forcht said Moss was an incredible city manager.

“I’m thrilled for him,” Forcht said. “As I said in my note to council, he’s an incredible city manager as far as I’m concerned. I’m glad he’s got the opportunity to work in a little bit larger city.”

As Marco’s city manager, Moss oversees a staff of about 200 employees, compared to the more than 500 employees he will be responsible for in Naples.

While Moss wasn’t Councilman John Sorey’s first choice, Sorey said Tuesday he was confident that Moss would be able to make the transition.

“It was very difficult to rank these folks. I had to really labor over this,” Sorey said. “I think Bill Moss knows this area, and I think he’s a great choice.”

According to Moss’ contract, he must give the Marco council written notice of resignation 75 days in advance. That means that unless the Marco Island City Council waives the 75-day notice option, Moss wouldn’t be able to start in Naples until Jan. 7 at the earliest.

But on Monday, Moss told the council that he hoped to work out an agreement that would allow him to continue his work on the island, while familiarizing himself with Naples.

“If I am accepted (as city manager) I hope ... (we) can come to an understanding that I am a stakeholder,” Moss said during his interview. “I will try to meet the community, and frankly by January 1, I would hope the transition would be smooth.”

That transition time won’t just be spent getting to know the city of Naples, Moss also will need to use that time to tie up loose ends on the island.

Moss said, however, the job offer is coming at a good time.

The Marco Island City Council only meets about a handful of times before the end of the year, and Moss said the majority of the time-consuming projects, like the city budget, already are completed.

“In some ways, it’s a good time for me to leave,” he said. “All of the difficult things (in the city) are complete, and we have a very competent staff.”

Moss also will need to use the next few months to find a home in Naples.

The city manager position is the only position, aside from City Council, that has a residency requirement.

Moss was one of six people to interview for the position. Candidates spent two days interviewing with City Council and city staff, as well as mingling with community members Monday night.

In addition to Moss and Hinchey, the other candidates were Peekskill, N.Y., City Manager Dan Fitzpatrick; Cape Coral Assistant City Manager Hector Rivera; Sunrise City Manager Pat Salerno and Isle of Palms, S.C., City Administrator Linda Lovvorn Tucker.

Prior to selecting Moss as city manager, Barnett said Tuesday’s decision would be monumental.

“We started with 161 candidates ... and I think we could’ve hired (any) one of these candidates in a minute,” Barnett said. “Today is going to shape the history of Naples.”

BILL MOSS NAMED NAPLES CITY MANAGER

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marcomarc writes:

Bye Bye. Marco won't miss him either. It's a shame Naples does not know what there getting. I suppose he will want to install sewers there too whether they need it or not at 5 times the cost everywhere else. But we are much better off.

MarcoAvenger writes:

Marcomarc – I would like to say something about your intelligence, however your statement says it all. Let me see a larger neighbor city hires our City Manager. Do you think they would hire someone who was not the best candidate just to help us out? Please think before you post. We are loosing a very good City Manager. He has led our City from the beginning. I am sad to see him leave. However, I do not blame him one bit. If anything his hiring just proves how wrong your side was.

fairandbalanced writes:

Ditto, MarcoRobert and MarcoAvenger. We're losing a good man who has helped make some dramatic and lasting improvements to our Island. Inheriting a backlog of projects probably caused him to attempt too much in too short a period of time. When the dust settles, his legacy will remain and we'll all benefit from a better quality of life from a much improved infrastructure. With most major projects out of the way, his successor will likely garner the accolades from all these improvements without suffering the headaches from the complainers.

talktome writes:

Was I right? Moss is a bright guy and I knew he was a good candidate. I wish him well in Naples. Now the next step is to get one of the other candidates on Marco. The one from Chatham or the female will do.

EdFoster writes:

Congratulations Bill! I do not wish upon you the "plague" that your Freudian supporter, MarcoRobert does. Seriously, I wish you well ... and I wish Marco well in its search for your replacement. I've said many times that you have been extremely effective and replacing you will not be easy.

Perhaps Neapolitans will appreciate your pledge not to "intentionally let council make a mistake” more than we Marcoites did. (I assume that you were quoted accurately and that your statement was not a Freudian slip.) Marco residents may be more independent than Neapolitans and think that, if mistakes are to be made, our elected officials should make them, not our hired hands. If as is said, it is the duty of the City Manager to carry out the wishes of the City Council, it seems to me he should carry them out whether he thinks they are a "mistake" or not.

Ed Foster

tptcolumbusway writes:

No question he is a skilled City Manager, but his legacy of the past few years is very bad. He has driven this city into debt, ruined tourism, divided the city, required a public relations manager be hired because no one believes what he says any more, deceived the people about the need for a 130 million dollar project paid for by a third of the island that he has stated several times benefits the entire island. My taxes have tripled since 2001 thanks to the council and his stewardship. He believes that as real estate values increase it creates a windfall for the city and hence his spending spree of needless projects all done at once. He was fiscally irresponsible. Talk to some of the merchants on Collier and see how they feel about his leadership.
Let’s not forget his allowing the use of the Glon property for a demolition dump that turned into a hazardous waste site. He has worn out his welcome.
You folks that are remorseful of his departure, don't you think we can get a good city manager to live here for the $$ we paid Moss? Do you not think that this change is good since we will have a new council in January that is very likely to stop the STRP? Don't you want a city manager the council will trust? If the 4 candidates that have been in the race the longest win seats, we will need a city manager that they will enjoy working with. This place has been too much like Washington DC for the past few years and that is largely due to an incompetent council and Bill Moss. Too much bad blood with Moss. It is time for a change.

MarcoAvenger writes:

Thank you Soloman. That was what I was trying to say.

tptcolumbusway writes:

Solomon, take the high road and stop attacking people and calling them losers. That makes you the loser.

tathiede writes:

I still want to know what connections Moss has with Quality Enterprises! If Moss is so great then who is the problem on Marco - the City Council? I look forward to a new City Manager and new council members. It can only get better for Marco without them.

MarcoAvenger writes:

What are you talking about tahiede? Please explain

pepsipattyfl writes:

There is a God!!! Yeah the legacy Moss will leave is a bankrupt city! Good luck Naples!

tptcolumbusway writes:

This is truely funny, FOB, (Friends of Bill) are out in force on this blog.

tathiede writes:

MarcoAvenger. I guess you don't keep up with all the news on Marco. Quality Enterprises keeps getting away with things. Like not being responsible for the extra costs of the de-watering fiasco though it says they should pay for such things in their contract. Instead Moss and his council members think the residents on those blocks should pay for the extra costs of having environmental experts check the air quality. Go back and read the news from the past two months.

MarcoAvenger writes:

Well tptcolumbusway at least Bill has friends. I believe the only contact you guys have with the outside world is through this web site.

tptcolumbusway writes:

Marcoavenger, If I knew who you were I would send a box of tissues so you could wipe your tears. Maybe you should move to Naples with Bill and Ronny and continue with their excellent adventure.

MarcoAvenger writes:

tathiede you posted like you had some proof of wrong doings. It is the same thing time after time. One of you makes an accusation. Then everyone from your side jumps in to support the accusation. However, you never have proof of anything. The truth is Bill is a good guy. He has led our City from the beginning. I can see the vast improvements to the island during my short 9 years on the island. I am proud to have known Bill. I am sorry to see him leave. I think Naples got very lucky.

barfieldfly writes:

I was to young to be at VE day and VJ day but I can honestly say this is our VM day (victory over Moss)day. and it feels GREAT!!

barfieldfly writes:

I call to all citizens of Marco, to raise a toast and commend yourselves for your gallant battle against the Dark-Side! You see you can make a difference. Now lets focus on the election and throw the rest of 'em out.

tathiede writes:

MarcoAvenger. These are not accusations. I read the paper and e-mails. Did you see that letter written to the City Council from Butch Nylon in the paper a week or so ago. I received it via e-mail with the Quality Enterprises contract for the sewer project attached. What about the asbestos fiasco too? Didn't you read about that?

barfieldfly writes:

Now, do we owe Naples anything?

gosixpack writes:

Having only been on Marco for 5 years, I have stayed out of the blog. I definitely know the issues and definitely have my own opinions. However, at this juncture I feel compelled to congatulate Mr. Bill Moss on his new endeavor.

After Hurricane Wilma I had a question, called City Hall and asked for the City Manager. I fully expected with all that was happening to be directed to someone else, but Mr. Moss picked up the phone, answered my question was most courteous and helpful. He was available, certainly ready to do his job, and didn't pass the buck. Through the years I would venture to guess this wasn't an isolated incident.

In business I make the snowballs, and hope to have competent arms to throw them. Good arm Mr. Moss. Some may consider the snowballs I make inferior, but that should not reflect on those charged with execution. However one lines up on the Marco issues today, I hope everyone can agree Bill Moss has been an effective snowball thrower. Naples made an excellent executive decision. I hope Marco voters can do the same when we elect our snowball makers.

barfieldfly writes:

SIXPACK,
Bill Moss made a more effective Snow BLOWER.

EdFoster writes:

Solomon:

In case you haven't heard, the office of City Manager is not an elective office (you can verify that with Russ Columbo) so no one is "running against Moss."

Mr. Chamberland:

Check your facts. Bryant, Miller and Olive are the city's bond council and were the firm the city hired TO BRING SUIT against the citizens of Marco Island, the property owners of Marco Island, and the State of Florida to "validate" the sewer bonds in county court. The State Attorney joined C.A.R.E.S., Inc. in opposing the validation. CARES didn't bring the suit; the City of Marco Island did. Do you deny people the right to oppose the city? A right given them by the State Constitution? A right that the State Attorney's office joined us in defending?

Lewis, Longman and Walker were the City's attorneys in the asbestos lawsuit. Had the city admitted to the problem when it was brought to their attention and moved to correct it (at the contractor's expense as stipulated in their contract), there would have been no lawsuit and no legal expense. The city had alternatives to pursuing the matter in court; the city could have cared enough for the health of its citizens and visitors to move quickly and effectively to get to the bottom of the matter and insist that its contractor clean up the mess they had created. Do not blame me or CARES because the city chose to stonewall and deny the obvious. In any event, according to their contract, Quality Enterprises is liable for the city's legal expenses. The only reason you see $300,000 in legal expenses on the city books is because A. William Moss refused to pursue the contractor for legal reimbursement. Don't blame me or CARES for his failure to do his duty.

Yes! I'm still here and I still care about Marco Island and its residents.

Ed Foster

tptcolumbusway writes:

He drank the Kool Aid Moss served Mr. Foster and you have now served him a dose of humility. Thanks for clearing the record.

lowus writes:

ba10da69,
how 'bout we throw in Rony Joel and make it a clean 3 for 1 deal?

Marcolite writes:

Congratulations to Bill Moss. You will be truly missed by the silent majority on Marco Island. Thank you for a job well done!

ba10da69 writes:

Take the whole city council,we will pay them

lowus writes:

Marcoite, I'm thinking your little silent majority crowd you speak of really didn't impress Moss.

Lolala writes:

Good Grief! Why don't you few Moss supporters give him a parade and escort him across the bridge? Where were you when he was so outnumbered during the Council Meetings? Or could it be there really were so few of you that appreciated his work? I guess we will find out in January.

happy6 writes:

so long bill....at least you don't have to put "fired" on your resume and that's what this is all aout in the first place...naples hates marco...has laughed at all our problems....now they bought the main problem,,,,this is beautiful. hopefully billy will take the rest of the minions with him....but i doubt the naples nuevo will accept it....amazing to see the folks come from the woodwork to support billy in his time of jubilance.
good ridance and thanks for nothing. good luck naples...what a mistake.

Eagleeye writes:

Congratulations to Mr. Moss for landing the Naples job. The tedious, hideous malcontents of Marco Island, in their attempt to stay one step ahead of the Grim Reaper, will no longer have Mr. Moss to kick around as their only exercise. Bring on the next poor slob!

bbyrone46 writes:

So how long do I have to wait for my street to be repaved now that he is gone? Let's get this town put back together so that we may get on with our lives.

captnjimbo writes:

Let's see...the Marco council voted overwhelmingly on Moss's performance and has given him raises year after year...and now the Naples council votes 6 to 1 in favour of hiring him ...number one out of 161 applicants...stunning.

With him gone, now our council has the distraction of finding someone to replace him and given the history of the past couple of years, who would want to get mired in this?

The sewer system is not going to be pulled out of the ground and needs to get finished so we can get our streets back and the sooner the better.

Moss leaving will not make the tasks go away.

This is a great open forum and well used. I suppose Joel will become #1 lightning rod now.

waterday writes:

In my 25 years of living on Marco, I have never seen such a mess of our city- We can thank, our City Manager,and City Council. MARCO IS THE WINNER TODAY, AND WHEN ELECTION FOR COUNCIL, MARCO WILL BE THE WINNER AGAIN. The sewers will destroy water quality in the canals as they are already in my opinion doing. The roads are such a mess that many tourist will go somewhere else. The city spends more money and looks for more creative ways to pass this on to all residents on the Island. OPEN YOUR EYES MARCO! and let us get elected and hired individuals that CARE about Marco and the Residents and listen to what we say. The Majority of residents of any city should have the say regardless of the issue. This is a Democracy, not a Dictatorship as Marco Island is ran today. Good Luck to Naples, I feel sorry for the residents. MARCO IS THE WINNER, Too bad the job was not open before the sewer mess was initiated. Too bad our elected Council does not listen to the individuals (majority) that they represent. Council Election will change this - but a little to late. All residents need to continue to band together to continue to make the changes needed to make Marco the paradise it was, not the mess that City has created, to generate more money and spend quicker than they get it! Good Luck Bill!

lauralbi1 writes:

I could not possibly have the time to read all the blogs above, but for those of you that are happy to see Mr. Moss depart, let me say that you are way out of touch. Not one of you has the ability or education to be a City Manager, nor do any of you know what is required of a City manager.
Ask yourself why Mr. Moss could get a job with ANY City in the U.S. The answer is because he is very capable of running a City staff and capable of performing the job. His leaving will have NO impact on the STRP. In fact a new City Council, no matter what the make-up, will have no impact on the eventual outcome of the STRP. Maybe in the short term, depending on who is elected, but not in the long term. I mention Key West as my basis.
Anyway, I encourage most of you to wake up and smell the roses (or the H2S, whichever you prefer) and get a life. We live in Paradise, start enjoying it.
Ed Issler

tptcolumbusway writes:

Mr Issler, Key West is a limestone island. Perhaps you should go there with a shovel and see for your self. We all would love it if you moved to Naples now where you will be happy with your friend Bill and all his friends.

15yearsmarco writes:

Issler,

I will get back to living in paradise when Marco starts looking like paradise again.

MarcoNo1 writes:

Gee "Columbus", still trying to position yourself as a sewer expert? I thought your tenure in that role was finished after I called you on spreading misinformation on the Sanibel issue and you quickly went "radio silent". No such luck I guess. Any comments on the Port Marco fiasco, O' Swami of all things septic? Probably not as the facts don't fit your rhetoric.

26yearsonmarco writes:

The departure of Mr. Moss should be viewed as an opportunity for the newly elected members of City Counsel to re-think our entire process of government, and why we need 200 employees.

Marco Island consists of seventeen (17) square miles and according to the 2004 census has aprox. 16,000 residents.

For the sake of argument, lets assume we are 60% single family, 30% condominium and 10% commercial.

Therefore, aprox. 5,000 residents live in Condominiums and are regulated by State law and Boards of Directors, and require little or no involvement by the City.

Business is also regulated by other means.

This leaves aprox. 11,000 people living in aprox. 5,500 single family homes which seem to be the most affected by City government and its 200 employees, which breaks down to 28 City employees per home.

We, the people, need to re-examine our needs, because there is no way I can justify the existing system we have allowed to build over the last 10 years.

EdFoster writes:

MarcoNo1:

I posted the following after the Port Marco article:

"Had the city adopted an ordinance mandating periodic pumpout and inspection of all onsite wastewater treatment systems as suggest by C.A.R.E.S., Inc. two years ago and recommended and approved by the FDOH and EPA as an alternative to central sewers, this would have been discovered and rectified then. The council and city administration wouldn't listen because that alternative was just too simple, too safe, and too effective compared with their empire-building ways!"

And it applies here.

I also responded to your misinformation about the Sanibel beach closures. Just to remind you of the facts, it was a private SEWER system that overflowed, not private septic systems. Repeat after me: SEWERS CAUSE BEACH CLOSURES; SEPTICS DO NOT! That's according to the EPA if you'd like to check the facts instead of blindly mouthing off "conventional wisdom." You probably still believe the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it. That was "conventional wisdom" once and may still be "true" in your mind.

Ed Foster

lauralbi1 writes:

And I posted the following:
You know, talking with Southern Sanitation and another Septic pumping company, it appears that over 1/3 of the tanks on Marco are cracked and not operating properly. I agree with Ed Foster and think we should do the inspection immediately and publish the results. It only costs about $40,000 to replace a Septic Tank these days. Those that require a new tank should be immediately notified. In fact, I think I will get a couple of these pumpers to testify to the Council on what they are finding !!!
Ed Issler

waterday writes:

All Bill Moss Friends, please pack your bags and head to Naples with him! It is a much larger area that you can all screw up! Most of us old time residents, will be glad to see you go with your friend.

MarcoAvenger writes:

I have a feeling that if all the Moss supporters left the Island things would not get done. The vocal majority is all excited about Moss leaving. I do not get it. Naples did a Nation Wide search for a new City Manager. Our very own Bill Moss beat out all competition. So that means that he was the best candidate for the job. 25yearsonmarco please do something productive instead of running Marco into the ground. I do not think that 25 years of negative actions on the Island can compare with 10 years of positive actions. Bill Moss gave us 10 productive years on this island. I think the comments form the Anti-Moss group in this forum show just how delusional you are.

bbyrone46 writes:

MarcoNo1 you are wrong, the Sanibal contamination was found to be caused by a private waste water treatment plant and it's SEWER lines and manholes NOT on-site septic tanks as first thought. The Mayor was very surpised and embarrassed to say the least, when the report published.

MarcoAvenger you are likely niave if not outright wrong. Moss applied for the job at the last possible minute. He would never have done so if he did not believe he had a lock on it. A review of the resumes reveal Moss to be maybe the second or third best. Moss had been lobbying for that job the minute he heard Lee was leaving. Why would the City of Naples take someone like Moss over candidates that may have been better? Because he obviously had powerful political backing and would be cheaper, they clearly have already heard what his negotiating package is and that is just a formality. Things happen for a reason in SWF, not necessarily because you earned or deserve it.

waterday writes:

well said bbyrone46! Look we have seen what Moss is capable of doing, and you are correct Marcoavenger the majority (vocals) are really upset with the mess that this manager and his council has created! Please go to Naples with your buddy!

strike3 writes:

Chamberland is a sore loser. Only a matter of time before the rest of the pro city tax and spenders are run off the island. This is funny as hell. You couldn't make this stuff up if you sat for days and days thinking about what will happen next.

MarcoNo1 writes:

Sorry BBYrone, just checked the latest on the WINK web site again and the article quotes the Mayor as saying that the cause was the private sewer AND septic systems, you can read the quote on the WINK site, if you care to. But it really doesn't matter as it is an opinion, which like yours, isn't worth much without verification. I guess the Council should issue a release saying they are embarassed by Port Marco. Makes you wonder about how many more are out there. Again, a well regulated and periodically checked system (sewer or septic) is still the best insurance. Perhaps with all the arm waving something that actually can work will arise.

EdFoster writes:

It is interesting to ruminate why Mr. Moss took this particular time to jump ship. Although there's no way to know for sure, I personally agree with Byron that he made sure he had a lock on the job before jumping into the race at the last minute. His decision to jump ship just before our council election speaks volumes to me about how he thinks that contest will turn out. Four of the five candidates have made no bones about their dislike of Mr. Moss.

I wish him well and I mean that very sincerely. I do believe he is a very effective city manager but I think he's overstayed his usefulness on Marco Island and I don't subscribe to his belief that it is the City Manager's job to "prevent the council from making a mistake." That is about the most arrogant thing he could say. Deep down, he truly believes that the council is there to follow his instructions so that they won't make a "mistake," or what he views as a "mistake." Essentially he's saying that, once appointed, the City manager must dictate policy lest the council do something wrong. Sure, I agree that the council should seek his professional advice and follow it when THEY, not HE, agree with it. Otherwise we have a dictatorship.

Furthermore, true leaders do not abandon their troops. Chief Reinke has been trying to get off the island for months; perhaps he had a premonition. But, the second- and third-tier troops -- the Rony Joels, Bill Harrisons, Lisa Douglasses etc. -- have lost their protector and I imagine will be scurrying for cover before the next council takes office.

Finding a good replacement for Mr. Moss will not be easy. Would you take the job of Marco City Manager from an outgoing council knowing the level of contention on the Island and the likelihood that the new council may not approve of your being hired? If it t'were me, I'd ask for a whopping severance package should I be packed off in March and I'm not sure I'd risk my reputation by taking the job and being shown the other side of the bridge in short order.

Bill's abrupt departure, much as many like it, will cause considerable problems for the City of Marco Island.

Ed Foster

tptcolumbusway writes:

Marcono, that is a good name for you. You say no to anything that involves common sense. I did not go silent, I have a life and I don't live on here crying over the departure of the city manager. If I am spreading rhetoric, you spread acrimony and removing all doubt in anyone’s mind that you are intelligent. I have learned one thing about the intellectually challenged like you, sycophants like you that have set stupidity as a goal and never achieve it, drag intelligent people like My Byron, Mr. Foster and myself down to your level and beat us with experience.

As for my experience with sewers, I know nothing about sewers. I know very little about septic systems except the program where I lived in CT was very successful. I do know one thing for sure, no one on this island has any data specific to this island as to the need for sewers or not. Why don't we begin with monitoring what we have and see if a problem exists? If it does we should take action. My name is on here if you want to have a civil discussion. I like debate. Let’s see if you have the guts to place your name on here. My number is in the phone book. And by the way, Mr. Foster and Mr. Byron have put you in your place on the Sanibel issue, I was correct and you were once again incorrect.

Tom Tierney
153 Columbus Way

DawnPharmer writes:

Perhaps Moss will take MS. Douglass with him. The air will be fresher, atmosphere cleared when her bullying tactics are off the island.

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