Hooray! Say goodbye to the "Old Guard"!

Marco Island is changing for the BETTER!

congratulations to the winners...sorry for the island...we will become something many of us did not come here for...but it's the Ameican way...vote and live the consequences...keep sanding those lamp posts jose'....keep digging the holes and paving the streets..over and over...BUT...let's still do the audit and bring billy moss back to testify.

Hear Hear!!!! Now listen, listen.....

Someone please explain to Hall that the Mackle brothers never intended for this to be a retirment community. Do they just make this stuff up? Hall now that you have lost please take the time to read the Last Paradise. It is a great book. You will also learn that the island was developed for middle class people. Maybe if you guys spent more time understanding Marco instead of driving around in your trucks with signs in the back you would have a clue as to what is going on here.

van: you just can not help yourself can you? you are a big loser. So you think it is Jose who grinds the light poles? What if it is Tom? You were fooled by Foster, Hall, Neylon, Sanchez and Davies. We were not. We won, you lost. Time to clean up the Island and make sure this never happens again.

Ed Foster: Sorry old man. The voting machines were rigged, voters were bribed and as a result, the smart people won.

Congrats to the real men of Marco!
Good to see that Forcht was on the 'real' side after all.
losers go home(far from Marco)

MARCOAVENGER GEE IT EVENS SOUNDS RAT LIKE.PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE EXACTLY WHY MARCO ISLAND HAS CHANGED SO MUCH.I CAME HER AS A YOUNG ADULT FROM NAPLES. I LOVED THE BEACHES THE GREAT PATHS THAT WERE JUST OFF COLLIER.PEOPLE WERE GENUINE AND FUN LOVING.WE HAD CAMP FIRES ON THE BEACH, WE DID NOT NEED FANCY BEACHES WE LOVED THE GULF. BUT MOSTLY WE LOVED OUR PARADISE. YOU WOULD NOT KNOW THIS,OR LIVED HER THEN.THE FEW OF US WHO ARE LEFT ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE DONE TO OUR HOME LAND MARCO ISLAND.YES IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO COME DOWN HERE MOSTLY FROM THE NORTH OR WEST OR EAST AND TELL US HOW TO RUN OUR ISLAND.NOW YES PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE RUINED THE PARADISE. OLD TIMERS IT IS TIME FOR US TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS. SPEAK OUT NOW

Nice campaign losers!
You think driving a few truck around the island would get you elected?!?
I'll be laughing about this one for a year or two. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The people have spoken, now go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Point of clarification:

The Mackle brothers NEVER wanted Marco Island to be a retirement community. Marco Island is a residential/resort community which is precisely what the Mackle’s envisioned and planned for. They donated land for schools and parks (we have over 2200 school age children on the Island). This is not, nor was it ever intended to be a Sun City.

The citizens of Marco Island are just plain tired of all of the misinformation, lies, selfish agendas and disrespectful behavior. The facts won over the rhetoric. Our council did listen to the public even under heavy fire from a small vocal minority. Our city councilors were brave and stood steadfast while under constant attack! These election results prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that our city council has bravely served us well!

God Bless Marco Island!

Enough said, let's move forward!

TO TROTWALDRECKGIBS-- YOU PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE LITTLE BOYS INSTEAD OF OUR FUTURE LEADERS YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. GROW UP AND INSTEAD OF LAUGHING AND MAKING RUDE COMMENTS (IWILL BE LAUGHING FOR A YEAR OR TWO) WE ALL KNOW REAL MEN DRIVE PICK-UP TRUCKS.

How to lose a political campaign:

1.) Drive around with a bunch of signs in trucks.

2.) Support one candidate that has lived here for three months and lies repeatedly.

3.) Support another candidate who has lived here for two years part-time and started a failed recall effort against well respected councilors.

4.) Support a Dr. with a less than exemplary reputation and a checkered past.

5.) Support an arrogant condo commando.

6.) Attack good honest city councilors at every chance whenever you disagree with them.

7.) Threaten good honest family men and their families when they disagree with you

8.) Do damage to sitting councilors boats, cars and homes if they disagree with you.

9.) Threaten and bully anyone who disagrees with you.

10.) Repeat

This outstanding political team consisted of a couple snowbirds, failed investors and a few die-hard city haters.

Funny, despite all of the evil efforts, the only casualty was Bill Moss and he got a better job. You failed! Has it hit you yet???? You failed!

Can't wait until they drive around in their trucks to take down all those stupid yellow signs they littered the island with...good riddance.

Congratulations Pro Sewer Voters. You just voted in at least 5 more years of Construction, Disruption and Lower Housing Values. As I am and I’m sure some of you are, getting up in years, we may never see the end of it. You’ll never know what the four guys you voted against could have done for this island. What a shame – What a mistake! Yes the Silent Uninformed Majority has spoken! So Congratulations again!

Looks like Gibson has his work cut out for him. The majority of his supporters do not appear to be "positive" about winning. Seems being hateful is too much fun. Leroy, 27year, trotw, patton and avenger I guess you didn't hear Totter when he said we must work to bring this island back together again. Which group is being the most hateful in the posts above? Winning is the easy part, now you must live what you promoted and that looks like it will take a real change of personality.

please see my post on naples site. i dont have time to rewrite it.

hawke1: I guess you still did not understand what happened last night. I have little hope that you ever will. A vast majority of Marco Islanders REJECTED the hate slate. It is over. Your side lost. Get over it. Try to live around positive people who love this Island and who want to make it better. Progress can not be stopped. Politics of hate, doom and gloom never works. Learn to have trust in your fellow citizens.
I woke up to a brilliant Marco Island day, feeling great and can not wait to get to work. A beautiful Marco Island day without a bunch of signs littering both sides of the road; without the ugly sight of pick-up trucks carrying ugly signs greeting visitors at the bottom of the bridge. What a relief!

It's a great day for Marco Island!The negativity has been stopped once and for all.

Congatulations to the new Councilors elect, Gibson, Recker, Trotter and Waldack. Also, congratulatins to Councilors Minozzi, Popoff and Tucker for all they have endured. They DID listen to the people and were brave enough to do the right thing. It was a long difficult campaign and a strategy of truth and facts paid-off.

Also congratulations to the four opponents for participating in their community. The political process is a challenging one but the voters have spoken and it's time to heal and move forward.

With a new positive council taking office and having to face a judge about Sunshine violations I sure wouldn't want to be Kiester right now. Do I smell a recall?

Can't count the number of times Kiester wanted to stop progress because his buddy's were going be voted into office. A little too sure of himself I'd say. Good for the councilors that stuck to their guns and stayed the course; that took real leadership!

CONGRATS!! NO MORE TRUCK RODEO.. NOW WE CAN TAKE THAT CARES CRAP AND FLUSH IT RIGHT DOWN THE TOILET:) RESORT COMMUNITY AND DESTINATION ISLAND...LET'S MAKE 2008 GREAT STARTING WITH OUR NEW COUNCIL ELECTS. THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE ARE THE ONES WHO REALLY CARE AND WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!

Hip Hip Hooray!!!! Just took my kids to school and read the paper....yea! Now us parents can take our children to the council meetings.

Too Bad Boss Moss jumped ship so early. We really could have used his expertise to heal the island. Yea to "Tonka" Joel. Bring on the orange cones! Maybe now we can at least get a "bark park."

Still waiting for words of wisdom from the self proclaimed guru of everything. Where is our septic king Ed Foster. Oh, right, he moved off of the island. If this doesn't shut him up nothing will. How many times must a group of people lose before they realize they are just an obnoxious vocal minority?

Hawke1, It is the negative attitudes such as those you have just displayed that will continue to divide this island. Get over it, the election is over and your candidates lost. The voters have loudly spoken. congratulations to all that made this happen.

Byrone, the people have had it with you. Take your bbyrone46 and Hawke1 and any other alias' and stay the hell out of our way. Better yet, move to Sun City. Your friends Putnam (strike3), and Davies (lowus, votemarco, barfieldfly and all of his alias') are smart, follow their lead and bury your head in the sand. Better yet, go pound sand!

It is interesting that those that proclaim that they want to heal the island are still full of hate in victory.

No hate marcoobserver (another Davies alias), just relief and a lot of love for this island and it's many dedicated involved citizens.

This city has had to put up with so much BS and hate from a few loud mouths that we are just relieved. The truth does pay while for some, it hurts.

leeleelola

I am actually a second generation Floridian. However, I did take the time to educate myself and I also have the ability to think for myself. Your post just makes you look ignorant.

Have a good day.

The sign on the bridge should now read: "Welcome to Marcomiami". Get ready everyone, for cement cement cement, building up up and up and no more green. Marco could have had character, now it is on it's way to become the next Miami. Progress you say. Whatever.

BIG QUESTION:

What's going to happen with all of the leftover 2 x 4's that they used for the signs?

They could donate the wood to the YMCA, the Charter School or the Historical Society.

heebeed, complete nonsense, stop it! Trotter is one of the staunchest supporters in controlling density. Act like an adult and take your whooping with some dignity. Stop all of these lies!

The PEOPLE have voted and we all have won. We voted for change and we got it and a positive one at that. I do not like the Headline of this article, because we were always going to have sewers, no matter who won. Anyone who voted for the losing side needs to look at the words and actions of FDEP and SFWMD. FDEP has been doing testing off of our waters for months now and has all that they needed to mandate sewers, if they had needed to. It was never about whether we were going to have sewers or not. That is irrespective of what Mr. Neylon or Mr. Foster say in response as they have been wrong on EVERY issue they have pushed. They have lost every complaint and Court battle. So, please, let's all work together to make our Island an even better place to live and contribute to the Political process with our new Council.
Ed Issler

Congratulations Marco Islanders! And GREAT synopsis, 27 year resident! Our Councilors have been listening to the residents all along, despite what the mean-spirited vocal minority represented. It's a glorious morning, waking up and knowing that the Island has NOT been hijacked by a group of carpetbaggers, and will be lead by positive individuals who have already shown proven their positive contributions to our community.

Congratulations Marco Island: The results are a mandate. But more importantly, we had a RECORD SETTING turnout. We all need to realize that almost 80% of Marco Island registered voters voted in this election. That is something we can all be proud of. That is a State of Florida record for turnout. The results speak for themselves.
Please, let's keep this involvement going and have as many of us as possible get involved in the process !!!

I've owned on Marco Island since 1986, when I was 26, and I've always been worried that the curmudgeonly naysayers would ruin the island for those of us who plan to be here for another 20, 30, or 40 years. Hall & Co. should give up, pack up, and leave.

Neylon wants to get louder? Shut up already! Didn't you get the message? How dense can you be?

kudos to sailor's comment. I applaude the winners for a fine campaign. I am going to refer to the anti-sewer groups previous statements "let the island vote" you retired peole that have nothing better to do with your time but disrupt council meetings,mail and e-mail out negative and disruptive letters and comments have now LOST!!!!! The rest of us that actually have productive work and family lives have no time to participate in such ANTICS, however.....WE DO VOTE, NOW HEAR OUR VOTE, AND GO AWAY. it is a free country if you don't like it here......MOVE!!!!!

The only short term winners in this election are condo owners and hotels. Sewer charges are based on gallons of water used. Anyone with a lawn to irrigate is paying far more per unit of discharge than their fair share. Sewering the remainder of island will only amplify this inequity.

The soon to be sewered should not sweat the $20k. This should be more than offset by an increase in your property value once you are no longer stuck in e sewer limbo. The opposite is true for currently sewered properties. They lose. Simple supply and demand. There will be nothing special about sewered properties anymore.

Now that the island will be 100% sewered my hope is that single family homeowners will unite. Given the dire financial condition of the City, the coming month's and years will be a frenzy of attempts to break or get around the cap and the water utilities will be a tool to fleece us. Single family homeowners must unite to reverse our sharecropper status and prevent further unfair treatment.

Neutral sounds a lot like the garbage that Hall has been spewwing. The statements are 100% incorrect. How many times do you need to be told, it takes five homes waste to create enough reuse for one home, thus, the more homes on sewer the more reuse water!

As to the financial situation of the city, another myth from Hall; the city is in excellent financial shape. Enough of your misinformation.

You said "let the voters speak.!" Well they spoke loud and clear why aren't you listening?

Sailor either you can't read and/or own a condo. I wrote nothing about reuse water. That is another issue altogether. The point is that single family homes pay sewer charges for irrigation water that does not go in the sewers. This results in a disproportionate share of the cost falling on them. I am sure you know this and are most likely a beneficiary of this travisty. Reuse water only adds insult to injury, another benefit for the portion of the population not pulling their weight.
It obviously bothers you that I advocate a polical alignment of single family homeowners to offset the influence of the condo association and the hotels. Frankly, I'm impressed with how successful their lobby has been. This election if nothing else will remove a point of division for those who own a majority of the land on this island, the single family homeowners.

As to the financial health of the city. The frantic attempts to bust or circumnavigate the cap speak for themselves.

Neutral, you obviously aren't listening to the voters because you don't like what you're hearing. That's the thing about these people like you; you attack our council because you don't like they way they vote. Well, the fact is that over 60% of the voters on this island like the way our city council votes.

The real leaders in our community are the councilors that had enough courage to vote for the STRP all along. They did so and got abused at every meeting by the same childish speakers, you included Roger Hall. As you know, the single family home owner has a decrease in rates due to the reuse water the city sells to the condos. You are so full of misinformation it must be seeping out of your septic system!

Seems to me that Tucker, Trotter, Popoff and Minozzi have been vindicated. Good job councilors!!

Neutral - How many people staying in the Hotels do you think voted yesterday? I do not really see how the Hotels can influence the vote.

Well said Sailor. I agree that our city council has taken a lot of punishment for doing the right thing. Forcht, Kiester and Diculllo did what ever made the angry mob happy while the other councilors votes showed real leadership.

There you go again Sailor. I said nothing about the council. I am not talking about the STRP and I am not Roger Hall. You are obvously trying to put words in my mouth as a distraction from the specific point I am making about sewer rates.

Your refusal to grasp my point is a sign of low intellect or evasion. Either way your not worthy of further debate.

To those of you who live in single family homes. When you get your sewer bill notice that the amount you are charged for SEWER service (not water charges) is a function of how many gallons of water you use even though 60% of that water goes on your lawn while condo owners who flush their toilets as often you do pay much less per flush because they don't have lawns to water. The solution is to meter the outgoing sewage or adjust rates to offset the difference.

Hey Neuter, give it a break; the campaign is over.

GIBSON, RECKER, TROTTER & WALDACK are victorious but the entire city won.

Avenger: No argument on that. I'm not suggesting the hotel guests had anything to do with anything. The condo association did but that is their purpose to look out for their members interests. I assure you the hotels and condos have strong lobbys and are active on the structure of utility rates. I am advocating a similar lobby for the single family home owners on the island.

Very telling that there have been no congratulatory messages or statements from the anti-sewer candidates or their supporters to the new councilors. I guess expecting any class from classless individuals was too much to expect.

Neutral

I have owned a house and I presently own a condo. As far as I know we are not on reuse water. I do know that our condo association does budget a great deal for water. I also did not see the great decrease in my water bill when I moved into the condo. I guess it has to do with the base charge. There probably does need to be a way to distribute the reuse water so everyone can benefit.

Avenger: Thank you for keeping it civil. I am not refering to water usage charges. I realize that reuse water is a complicated issue and that there is no way it can be extended to every house. I own a house that is already on sewer and I am charged for sewer usage based on the amount of water I use even though most of it does not go in the sewer. We pay for the water on the way in we should only have to pay on the way out for what actually goes in the sewer.

Neutral, don't waste your time. You are arguing with one fellow here. He uses several names but it's the same guy.

at least we won't have any flip floppers on the council this time-Terri Descuello.... This time we have go getters and doers.
Keister is going at it 6 to 1 ;;;good luck with that!!!!!

Cracks me up, Guidry, the candidate with the least amount of votes in one breath says the people have spoken and then goes on to say that the developers won! What total trash, talk about misinformation and sour grapes. There is only so much available land on Marco Island and it is all zoned. Property rights cannot be revoked so the land may eventually be developed, what does that have to do with who the voters elected? Same trash, lies and misinformation, another day.

Byrone, you still here. You have no shame! Throw in the towel already.

This election was about $. On the anti sewer side voters reacted to being forced to pay $20k for what they didn't need while destroying septic systems they had already paid $15k for. On the pro sewer side voters were told that stopping the strp would cost them money. Without this issue to divide homeowners on this island the election would have been about financial responsibility and taking the direction of this island back from special interest groups. I for one am hopeful that other than their position on the STRP the new councilmen will prove to be financially responsible and represent the island residents. I believe that most voters on this island are financial conservatives like myself. We must insist that the spending cap be respected and that includes using the city owned utilities to get around it. If the new council continues the spending spree and continues to look for ways to bust the spending cap, the next election will be very different without the STRP to divide homeowners. Peace.

I love it that "Butchy Boy" says he is going to stay active in city politics. Memo to "Butchy Boy" GO AWAY...pick up your toys and go home. Then have Guidry check your prostate. He may even find your head in there.

How long do you think it will be before the loser are back in the courts again wasting our tax dollars???

Neutral,
If you are concerned about having to pay sewer fees for the water you put on your lawn, ask the Water department to separate your system with independent meters.

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Marcogap: I was under the impression that this was not an option but thanks for the heads up I will look into it.

rlegan: I don't agree with the scorched earth tactics of the radicals on the anti sewer side. But I never cease to be amazed at the insensitivity of your type. When a minority has been forced to cough up 100 million dollars for something they didn't need they are likely to be angry and likely to fight back. To the people being assessed for $20,000 each to replace the septic system they paid $15,000 to install, legal bills that amount to a few bucks per tax payer mean very little. Hope and pray that you are not in the next minority group that the city beaurocracy decides to fleece to feed it's ravenous appetite. Anyone asstute in political history knows that buearocracies become self justifying bodies whose primary purpose becomes to grow themselves. This one is a classic case. If our new city council does not get a grip on it quick insolvency will come before the end of their term.

Neutral, stop it already! Didn't you read any of the expert testimony about how important it was for Marco to complete the sewers? Were you too busy holding up yellow signs? From the federal and state levels we've been told that either we finish the project now or the state will make us do it later. Get a grip on reality and stop drinking the kool aid; party's over and everyone went home.

Besides, who are you trying to convince anyway, the electorate has spoken and overwhelmingly they want to put this tiresome issue to bed. You and your opinion have lost...try and be graceful and accept this fact if you can.

After reading most of these comments, I would say that it’s not over yet. There’s still a lot of fight left in both sides. The Pro Sewer people have come out and done all their Ha Ha’n and have pretty much dominated this area with there “in your face remarks”. And the Anti Sewer people, still being in shock, are still trying to warn of the future and accept it. Aggravating the losers in this way will only guarantee one thing! If anything smells fishy, They’ll Be Back! Remember, although the Anti Sewer people were not a majority, there numbers were far from being classified as a small group or minority and sewers were not the only issue they were voting on…

It's over! Even I want to stop the gloating. Mr. Davies said it best,

"The people have spoken," Davies said. "They will get the Marco that they want. End of story."

I accept this and hope the rest of the lot does as well.

I voted pro sewer and I must say that I am little shocked and alarmed at how the pro sewer people are behaving. We won for crying out loud. Be adult about it and stop dumping on your neighbors.

I can't believe the losers haven't asked for a recount, filed suit, or appealed to the Supreme Court. I guess stomping feet and wailing will have to do for now.

Why do the victorious evince not a scintilla of magnanimity?

How does losing over twenty thousand dollars help them?

How does 'destination resort' benefit homeowners, when most prefer cruising the Bahamas or jetting to Dubai? Who's coming? Those who procure unusual goods and services from the usual suspects?

Absence of magnanimity tells it.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
31 January, 2008

Doesn't language tell us so much? Isn't that why researchers advocate that pay close attention to it?

Markograd's auspicious developments were described by one chap as 'The Fifth War'.

Is there any wonder why Markograd is a war zone? A 'war' to set-up a local police department? One which sets up the innocent while criminals get away? Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

Doesn't it well explain today's happy story of yet another conveniently botched murder investigation on Marco Island, Florida? Wars generally are about killing for profit, arent't they?

Markograd's interesting history has yet to begin, but it's doing a great job of writing itself.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
31 January, 2008

Wait until the condo owners get the rate increases John Arceri promised them would come if the losers had won. This new council cannot operate unless they can overcome the loss of revenue the State has imposed. The new council will have to either raise taxes or utility rates along with fees if they are going to keep this city running. The election results come with an additional 100 million dollars of debt, all of which must be paid for. Empty homes and lots are not going to help. Oh well, Trotter promises to fix it and Recter promises to make the hard choices. Open up your wallets folks. Even Don Farmer won't be able to dampen the sound of moving vans leaving our island.

Leave, please leave!! Take your vans and your attitudes and don't let the bridge kick you in the rear.

Montel you Moron, your still spewing your hate. You must have been beaten with an UGLY stick.

The most interesting thing about this string is the complete lack of cooperation by the losers. The vote was a clear mandate for a Marco Island that truly reflects the Mackles vision, as it would be today with the changes in the world. Marco was originally supposed to be a middle class resort and residential community. The Mackles did not anticipate when they began the development that it would be the last, major, dredge and fill community in the state of Florida. In the 1960's when they began, dredge and fill communities were the way to go. In the 1980's the environmental movement took over, and the Corps stopped Marco and essentially all other communities of its type. Marco would have had 50% MORE residential lots than it has today if the Mackles REAL vision had been accomplished. The limitation of waterfront development changed the economics of Marco and all other waterfront communities. Waterfront became scarce. That and the aging baby boomer population took this area from the 1200 square foot house to the 5000 square foot McMansion. The City Council had nothing to do with that, just like it has nothing to do with the current slump, it is basic economics.
It is time to move and and continue to progress. Frank III loves the way Marco looks today. The new Collier Blvd is beautiful and fits our type of community. The other infrastructure changes, bike paths, etc. are all for the good. The developers did not win, because they are not a part of our equation, the people of Marco Island won.

Great Post - lovemarco

I do not have sewer, and I voted prosewer, as did many homeowners that are not on sewer that I have talked to. This is a dead issue and needs to be completed and we need to move forward and stop rehashing this. I am a retired CPA, I have looked at the city financials and we are not at all in dire financial straits. This is a fabulous place to live and we should all be thankful to be here. Now, how about a dog park? Comments?

Hear, hear for Ingoslee. A dog park would be great. It had been suggested for the Leigh Plummer park on Barfield. To me, that would be a great location.

Ingosolee: Your representation of Marco Islands financial condition as excellent makes all of last years attempts at getting around the budget cap look very interesting to put it nicely. Can you explain what those efforts were about?

Montel: I would hope that these threads could be used for polite debate. You and the rest of the "pack up and leave" people should consider that the current rate of home sales it would take a more than a millenium for the 40% island that voted anti sewer to "pack up and leave". We are all stuck here together and we should try to get along. Remember only 15% of the island remains to be sewered yet 40% voted anti sewer. Why do you suppose all of those sewered people voted anti sewer when they were told it would cost them money to stop the STRP. It is because some of us saw beyond the STRP issue, which everyone knows is now a done deal. I hope the incoming council will do a better job of managing the island than the past has. If not the 40% that voted against them will remain a solid block while most of the other 60% will vote their wallet and it will only take a 10% swing to oust them next election. So chill out. Work off that energy praying that you are not in the next minority this hungry beaurocracy feeds off for it's expansion.

Bravo Nautral! You make some excellent points…

strike3: I really didn't want to respond as your comment is not worth it. But the truth hurts and FDEP was standing in the wings, believe it or not. So, we are completing the STRP and it is a non-issue. Instead of throwing out worthless words and comments, let's see you involved and knowledgable in the process.
Ed Issler

MarcoFacts: Read the post and explain how your response has anything to do with it. The post was about some on your sides expectation that the finacially injured parties are somehow going to wake up forget about this whole thing or pack up and move. Get real. I assure you though that I have read more on the subject than you and a simple septic tank inspection program would have accomplished the same thing, a vacuum system sewer would have cost a fraction of the amount. If you had read my other posts you would know that I am and have always been connected to sewer and that I fully realize and accept that the STRP is a done deal. Face it you and most of your lot went to a presentation or two where you were told that it would cost you a few bucks if the STRP were stopped. You went to the polls chatting about how the world would come to an end if 15% of the island remained unsewered and you voted your wallet neighbors be blasteded. Now you expect cheerful congratulations from those who have been victimized. Don't be silly. This election and it's consequences have created more anti city government radicals and we will be plagued by the consequences of that for a long long time.

Neutral, MarcoFacts never reads an entire entry. He reads the first few words, anticipates what is being communicated and then writes an unrelated bullet. He and many of these other posts are really the same fellow writing under different monikers. The audience you are speaking to numbers maybe 3 different writers. You are wasting your time responding to this guy.