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A show of hands at a community forum Thursday evening hosted by City Councilor Chuck Kiester illustrates how many Marco Island citizens are against adding tolls to the Jolley Bridge. A similar show of hands demonstrated that the vast majority of residents at the forum were also in support of keeping LCEC as their electricity provider without allowing the city to takeover the utility and also were against privatizing Alligator Alley.
Marco City Councilor Chuck Kiester’s forum drew well over 100 residents, more than attend many city council meetings.
Kiester and his constituents sounded off on state and city issues that will most affect island residents over the next several weeks and months.
Topics of conversation included privatization of Alligator Alley, replacement and tolling of the Jolley Bridge, city takeover of LCEC, a fire assessment, the general budget and other issues.
“Thank you putting this forum together to hear what the people have to say,” said resident Dale Nicholas to Kiester.
Nicholas turned to city councilors Wayne Waldack and Gerry Gibson who were also listening in on the forum to thank them as well.
“You ran on that plank (of listening to the community) and I’m glad to see you’re here,” Nicholas said.
City Manager Steve Thompson, Fire and Rescue Chief Mike Murphy, Public Works Director Rony Joel, Finance Director Bill Harrison and Parks and Recreation Director Dana Souza were also standing by to answer any questions as they arose.
Joel and Murphy fielded the vast majority of questions directed toward city staff.
Privatizing Alligator Alley
After a brief show of hands demonstrated that almost everyone present was against privatizing Alligator Alley, Joel began fielding some questions, including: who will collect the toll revenue from Alligator Alley?
“The State Law is if the road is tolled by DOT (the Department of Transportation) then DOT receives the funds. If it is privatized the funds generated are split between the counties served,” Joel said.
Collier and Broward Counties would split the $500 million toll revenue to maintain the roads, he added.
Amadeo Petricca raised a concern of whether the money would ever really be used for its supposed purpose of maintaining roads.
“It’s just like the lotto doesn’t go to education,” Petricca said.
“I agree with all my friends,” Kiester responded, adding that it is true that funds generated from the lottery go to education but then the equivalent amount of money is taken out of the general fund for education.
Jolley Bridge
Architect and former planning board member Herb Savage opened the discussions on the Jolley Bridge enthusiastically.
“We do not need two bridges across the jolly area. We do not need two bridges period,” he exclaimed.
Kiester said he recently met with DOT official Johnny Limbaugh of Fort Myers and that Limbaugh informed him that “technically there is no congestion on the Jolley Bridge.”
Kiester also said that a resident’s idea of having one-way traffic on and off island using both the Jolley Bridge and the Goodland Bridge may be a viable idea.
The Goodland Bridge has a sufficiency rating of only 45 according to DOT, meaning that it is in need of major maintenance and repair. The Jolley Bridge’s sufficiency rating is 70 because it is in need of some repair and maintenance as well.
“It’s like having a patient with two conditions – a hemorrhoid and a tumor. Which is more important? I think the Goodland Bridge is more important,” said Marco Island resident Gay Santiago.
Kiester said the differentiation is that currently the Jolley Bridge is owned and maintained by the state while the Goodland Bridge is the county’s responsibility. He also explained his previous vote to approve proceeding with the Phase 2 study.
“I thought it was the state’s money ... I also thought they may find it infeasible to put toll stations by the bridge,” he said.
Kiester also shared some good news. “If you haven’t already heard, the MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization) will not be moving forward with Phase 2 because they heard that we’re not in favor of a study.”
Politically active resident Russ Colombo said the question shouldn’t be if tolls but rather if a bridge is really needed.
“If there’s no bridge, there’s no question of tolls. The idea is to get your attention on tolls instead of whether we need the darn bridge to begin with,” he said.
Community members clapped and Rick Medwedeff of the Marco Island Marriott said his 800 associates at the hotel are “totally against the idea” of a toll as well.
“It’s just another barrier for their entry onto the island,” Medwedeff said of his employees and island visitors.
Another show of hands indicated that constituents held a nearly unanimous opinion against tolling the bridge.
Takeover of Lee County Electric Cooperative
The idea of the city taking over the electric service on island was equally popular among community members at the forum.
“Every time Marco wants something and doesn’t get it, it seems council just says ‘Let’s take it.’ There are only 15,000 of us (residents) here,” said John DeFalco, adding that he didn’t think they could take on everything themselves.
Kiester was the only councilor to vote against a study of the feasibility of the city operating an electric company.
“As a co-op, we are already part owners of the system and presumably will share any dollars generated over and above that needed to run its operations,” Kiester said.
He added that the money received is minimal, but wondered more about whether the $25,000 for a consultant and study was going to yield much.
“ ... I found that all you have to do is tell (the consultant) the outcome you want and that’s what you’ll get,” Kiester said.
Requesting a show of hands on this topic, Kiester said smiling, “It would take a person with real courage to show support at this point.”
Gary Elliott of a new island company, Solar Power and Light, was one of the few in the room who voiced support of the study.
“I’m just happy to get people to start talking about electricity,” he said.
Elliott also added that the challenge was not with the co-op, but with the fact that the co-op gets 70 percent of its power from FPL who relies on both oil and coal prices which have gone up drastically in the last year.
“We don’t have a preconceived idea of what the conclusion is and that’s why we’re asking for LCEC information,” Joel said regarding the study and ad-hoc committee which residents are encouraged to join.
Joel was asked if the takeover would eventually require a referendum vote of the constituents.
“It wouldn’t require it, but I would recommend it,” he replied.
Mike Gaynor stood up and addressed the crowd: “We already own this company (LCEC) ... I don’t want to sell it. I still want to be an owner,” he said.
Long time resident Keith Pershing had similar sentiments about the idea. “Isn’t LCEC a nonprofit? What’s cheaper a bureaucracy? I get my $1.36 each year. The city hasn’t given me any money yet,” he said drawing laughter from across the room.
Fire assessment
The fire assessment also drew some heat from the community.
“I guess council didn’t understand that we wanted tax reform. Even though we won the victory (voting to pass Amendment 1) it seems that was hollow,” said Roger Hall, a former council candidate.
Hall concluded: “This island is just going to be a place for rich people.”
Colombo raised similar concerns adding that he believed Governor Charlie Crist and the State Legislature was working on prohibiting assessments and any other means to make up for the property tax savings that residents were to receive due to amendment 1.
Murphy maintained that the fire assessment was fair because the assessment would charge on average usage by property type versus taxing of property value.
“The longer you wait on something that’s fair, the longer you’re sticking it to someone else,” Murphy said.
The City Council voted 6-1 June 16 to approve the fire assessment ordinance, with councilor Ted Forcht casting the dissenting vote. Councilor Frank Recker discussed setting up a fire assessment district without actually funding it or charging the assessment. Thompson reported that since that City Council meeting, Government Services Group (GSG) has explained that “legally it is not possible to establish a fire assessment district without funding, as it does not indicate a true intent or commitment to the establishment of the district.”
Thompson said in his weekly update posted on the city’s Web site that a table outlining options of the fire assessment and taxing rates will be presented for council and resident consideration prior to the meeting of July 24.
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Comments » 11
Russ writes:
Councilor Kiester must be recognized and thanked for the time and effort he has consistently volunteered to Marco Island's residents. For the past two years of his office, I believe he's been the ONLY councilor willing to hold open "town meetings" with the residents to get their unfettered opinions. He also initiated and chaired an ad hoc committee to address homeowners complaints against unregulated single family rental homes. Chuck's approach to elected office and his genuine concern for the voters is in stark contrast to what Marco has been subjected to from some other councilors, both past and present. It should be noted that Mr.Kiester's honest concern for the residents has earned him the abuse and disfavor of some members of Marco's administration. He has endured admitted "spite" persecutions apparently because he will not take marching orders from those who presume to control Marco Island. Councilor Kiester and I have disagreed strongly on some issues, but his is the sort of honest dissent and integrity that I, for one, will always respect. Those independant qualities have been all too rare in Marco's administration. Thanks for being there, Councilor Kiester!
Montel writes:
Russ, Kiester is also the only councilor in state history that has DELIBERATELY deleted public records...let's all give Kiester a round of applauds for embarrassing Marco Island.
Remember Judge Carrs statement when he gave Kiester the MAXIMUM penalty?? "Mr. Kiester, you have made a MOCKERY of the law!"
Strong enough for you Russ? You have proven once again that you have absolutely NO objectivity.
Kiester was convicted, charged and sentenced. What would you do Russ if that was another councilor? You, Hall, Neylon and the rest of your gang (MOB) would have started another recall.
At first I thought Monte Lazarus' letter to the editor was harsh but after reading your tripe he wasn't harsh enough! You might think you’re a great American but most of us feel different!
Sailor writes:
Columbo, you and Kiester are a joke!
barfieldfly_lowus writes:
Let me get this right, in Columbo's world (a world of narcissism and self-importance) no other councilor is dedicated? No other councilor takes time to listen to citizens? Hogwash!!
Once again I must remind Columbo that he is the vocal minority and I have heard from my councilors plenty of times. Kiester’s town hall meetings are nothing more than an opportunity for the angry, vocal minority to show their frowning faces and complain in public.
I personally have heard from my councilors, the councilors that 65% of Marco Island voted into office. The same 65% of the voters that vindicated Tucker, Trotter, Minozzi and Popoff. People like you Russ attacked these councilors because they were listening to their constituents. You attacked them because they didn’t listen to you; they listened to the majority. Get over it already. Russ, when do you give up, when is enough, enough? You lost and you continue to lose! You continue to embarrass yourself and put Kiester in the line of ridicule. You must not like him very much.
phlentyn_gordderch writes:
Wow, thanks to Kiester and Columbo the blogs have become fun again. Russ, do you read what you write before you send it? If so, have you ever heard of sundowners disease, hardening of the arteries, dementia, or turrets syndrome?
dc5799 writes:
Montel,
Still the moron/ What was Kiester sentenced to? And you barfieldfly, why were you at the meeting? Writing down names to give to your man acting Mayor Arceri.
Russ writes:
Refreshers for selective memories:
"I don't bother with my e-mails. I just delete them." (Councilor Glen Tucker)
" Me too." (Councilor Terry DiSciullo)
"My e-mails are just going to disappear" (Councilor Forcht)
Mockery being mocked...or selective vendetta?
ejburger writes:
In your case Russ I believe it's Selective Objectivity!
CelebrateMarco writes:
Russ, there were false acusations against Arceri and Kelber made by your buddy Neylon and a baseless and failed recall attempt agaisnt three dedicated councilors started by your other buddy Hall (the most hated man on Marco Island). Not to mention your activites with POP and Godfrey Davies. Many of us wonder why is it ok for you and your worthless buddies to start propaganda with the sole intent on harming leaders in this community but yet you defend Kiester who was guilty of violating the Sunshine Law? Double standard perhaps? It makes most of us question your integrity.
Geezer writes:
Hall, Columbo and Kiester just don't seem to get it. They lost the election and no one cares about their agenda. Kiester should count his blessings he wasn't recalled and Hall should be quiet and respectful that the majority hasn't run him out of town yet like they did in Squaw Valley. I have long lost my patience with Roger Hall; he is an obnoxious egotist.
Flowerpower writes:
This is really a sad testament to Mr. Columbo's skewed views on reality and like, CelebrateMarco, I am seriously beginning to question Mr. Columbo's integrity. I have always thought of Russ as a gentleman and balanced person politically. After reading his one-sided letters to the Editor (starting with the one after the election where he called the majority "uneducated"). I now believe he has been at the core of all the negativity.
Russ didn't get his way when his candidates lost the election. His council was going to make Godfrey Davies city manager...whew, thank God sanity prevailed and the majority spoke loud and clear. Maybe it was Mr. Columbo who ran the show, not Mr. Davies. Because Mr. Kiester carries out Russ' agenda then Russ attempts to make Mr. Kiester a councilor of the people...all of it is pretty transparent and very pitiful. I really believe if Mr. Kiester made up his own mind he would be a very good city councilor.
Many of us parents are interested in politics and watch the meetings. I have noticed that Mr. Kiester says one thing during discussion then votes another way. I think he really believes that he should vote one way but thinks if he does he will make his vocal minority supporters mad at him. Problem is that he is an outcast and has surrounded himself with outcasts. Get with the game plan Mr. Kiester and vote your conscience, not Russ Columbo's agenda.
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