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Marco deadlocked on parking arrangement

Gentlemen’s agreement not being honored, city says

The parking lot at Marco Medical Associates sits mostly empty just before a City Council meeting March 3 while a parking attendant stands on guard at the entrance. The city says it struck a gentlemen's agreement with lot owner Andrew Guidry, former council candidate, giving the city access to the lot for overflow parking after hours in exchange for the light poles illuminating the parking lot.

LESLIE WILLIAMS / Staff

The parking lot at Marco Medical Associates sits mostly empty just before a City Council meeting March 3 while a parking attendant stands on guard at the entrance. The city says it struck a gentlemen's agreement with lot owner Andrew Guidry, former council candidate, giving the city access to the lot for overflow parking after hours in exchange for the light poles illuminating the parking lot.

At left, the parking lot at Marco Medical Associates sits mostly empty just before a City Council meeting March 3 while a parking attendant stands on guard at the entrance. To the right is the Marco Island Police Department building, which was built partially on land donated to the city by Marco Medical physician Andrew Guidry. The city says it struck a gentlemen's agreement with Guidry, a former council candidate, giving the city access to the lot for overflow parking after hours in exchange for the light poles illuminating the lot.

LESLIE WILLIAMS / Staff

At left, the parking lot at Marco Medical Associates sits mostly empty just before a City Council meeting March 3 while a parking attendant stands on guard at the entrance. To the right is the Marco Island Police Department building, which was built partially on land donated to the city by Marco Medical physician Andrew Guidry. The city says it struck a gentlemen's agreement with Guidry, a former council candidate, giving the city access to the lot for overflow parking after hours in exchange for the light poles illuminating the lot.

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Attendees to City Council meetings in the last month may have noticed something odd in the parking lot next door.

Signs stating “Parking: $20” stand at the entrance, warding away residents who instead choose to hoof it a little further to get to the community room of the Marco Island Police Department building. The parking lot is part of the property at 19 Bald Eagle Drive, the address for Marco Medical Group. It is owned by physician Andrew Guidry, who operates the medical practice with fellow doctor Mitchell Shaw.

Guidry ran an unsuccessful bid for a City Council seat in the last election cycle. He also donated land to the city that allowed the police department to be built sandwiched between Marco Medical and the Marco Island Fire Rescue Department.

At the time that the city was drawing up plans for the site, Public Works Director Rony Joel said he had frequent communications with Guidry about the city’s intentions for the land.

“During the design of his facility and our facility, we provided him with site review recommendations,” Joel said. “He would make comments and we would implement his comments. On one of those occasions he asked if the city would be willing to provide his parking lot with new lights in lieu of his old ones.”

Joel said he agreed that the city would agree to furnish the lights as long as Guidry provided overflow parking in his lot after normal business hours. Council meetings typically begin at 5:30.

“He agreed and we shook hands, and I said, ‘I’ll take care of the lights,’ and he said, ‘Don’t worry about the parking,’ ” Joel said.

However, that agreement was never put into writing. Nor was it a problem until three weeks ago, Joel said — the first time parking attendants were stationed at the parking lot’s two entrances, starting around 5 p.m.

Joel said the city will be sending Guidry a letter to remind him of the spoken agreement, but he has not personally spoken with Guidry about the conflict. Phone calls placed at his office by Joel have not been returned, Joel said.

A call to Guidry’s office yielded no concrete answers for the Eagle.

When a reporter called asking to speak to Guidry, a receptionist handed off the phone to someone who later claimed not to be Guidry. However, that man spent several minutes responding to questions from a reporter about “your parking lot” and “your building.”

“I am unaware of what you’re talking about,” he said when asked about the parking charges.

The reporter pressed further: “How could you not know what is going on in your own parking lot?”

“I’m working. I work long hours,” he said in response.

Pressing further, he was asked, “You are inside your building from 5:30 until 9:30 on Monday nights?”

“I’m here until midnight sometimes,” he said.

When it became clear that the person answering questions would not be more forthcoming, the reporter asked if that was how he wanted to be quoted. The man on the other end of the line then said, “This isn’t Dr. Guidry, this is a nurse. This is nurse Mike.”

Eagle Editor Bill Green had a similar conversation with the man.

Police Chief Roger Reinke said one of his officers had spoken with Guidry on one occasion about it, and on a second occasion an officer told one of the parking attendants that he was in violation of city ordinance. The attendant then put the sign away and came into compliance, Reinke said.

Community Development Director Steve Olmsted said the city requires people within the city to get a permit in order to run a commercial enterprise, such as a paid parking lot. However, Olmsted said, Guidry has claimed to have a county permit to operate the lot as a paid lot.

If that is the case, Olmsted said, he needs to determine whether a county ordinance supersedes the city ordinance.

“I’m just looking at it from a planning and zoning perspective,” Olmsted said.

The issue came up during City Council communications at the end of Monday night’s meeting. When council was briefed on the agreement, Councilor Ted Forcht asked, “What time tomorrow do we take those lights down?”

City Attorney Alan Gabriel said Guidry’s site plan requires lighting, so the city cannot remove the lights without warning. He told council he will look into the city’s options and would come back with his recommendation based on what sort of agreement the city has with Guidry.

However, Forcht was insistent.

“Are we going to be kicked around for the rest of our lives on this thing or are we going to take the lights down?” he asked.

Electric bills for the lights are covered by the city, Joel said, because they provide light for people parking to attend city functions.

“The discussion was those lights are needed during those evening functions, therefore, why would he be responsible for the electricity when we need the parking lot for functions,” Joel said.

Joel said he was not certain how much the city spent on the light poles and their installation.

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Compare the value of the land to the value received (the lights). I think the City got a pretty darn good deal. A hand shake with Rony Joel is just a hand shake and has no value unless both parties agree it occurred. The first time I saw the signs was the meeting following a City Council Meeting that had been scheduled at 3:00 pm. The early City Council meeting did not make arrangements for alternative parking. The signs appeared at the following meeting. Dr. Guidry and his tenants utilize this parking lot for business purposes and for their patients. Expecting the lot to be available for the City, during business hours is unreasonable and inexcusable. I think the City owes Dr. Guidry an apology. I also think Rony Joel should be fired for not getting his "deal" in writing as would any prudent Public Works Officer. Furthermore, public officials wishing to get something for nothing should not be contributing to a story meant to demean the very person they want something from. After reading the quotes from the various City Officials in this story, I feel sorry for officials that may want Dr. Guidry's remaining property for future expansion. If our city ever wishes to make an offer for the remaining property Dr. Guidry owns, the City should be prepared to start negotiationas from a disadvantaged position or initiate eminent domain proceedings. This story paints the city in a poor light. It doesn't sound very appreciative of Dr. Guidry's good will. The City should have initiated immediate dialog with Dr. Guidry when the signs first occured. Instead it decided to send out the Police Chief. Now Forcht is kicking his heels and making matters worse. Let this story be remembered by those who may be considing donating property to our City in the future.

Posted by Lolala on March 20, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lolala, you are wrong, a handshake with honorable person has more value then a written agreement with a dishonorable person and it is quite obvious to me that the doctor is not an honorable person. Sounds like it may be sour grapes over the election. Let us be thankful the voters had the wisdom to not elect this person.

I'm with Ted, when does the city take the lights down

Posted by veridicus on March 20, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you veridicus. That was an unprofessional decision made by Dr. Guidry. A sign saying no public parking until after 5:00pm would have been a much more appropriate means of communication. Dr. Guidry is the one who owes the apology, to us, the taxpayers who apparently paid for the fixtures. Take the lights down now!!! I recall him using this in his campaign and thought what a nice citizen....boy was I wrong. I am embarrassed to be a FORMER PATIENT.

Posted by happyonmarco on March 20, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What an immature idiot!!!!

Posted by Leroy on March 20, 2008 at 11:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree, take the lights down. We don't need Guidry's parking spaces. Maybe more people will walk or ride their bike to the meetings. Think of all the money we will save in electric bills too.

Posted by Fossil on March 21, 2008 at 7:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TAKE THE LIGHTS DOWN NOW!!!!!!

Posted by talktome on March 21, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Talk about being a sore loser. He got the least amount of votes and is acting like a complete baby. This is the way NOT to act when you lose.

Posted by Flowerpower on March 21, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I LOVE THIS ISLAND !!! IT JUST NEVER ENDS WITH YOU PEOPLE. WHY DONT WE TAR AND FEATHER THE DR.? HAS ANYONE CONSIDERED BURNING JOEL IN EFFIGY ?

Posted by thebear on March 21, 2008 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here we go again ! This issue should have nothing to do with the election. First of all, Joel had no right to negotiate any agreement unless authorized by the City Council. This shows that some city staff members may have been allowed to proceed with actions without Council authorization because of the strong power our City Charter gives to our Manager. Dr. Guidry apparently gave property to the City of Marco Island to make it possible to build the fine new Police Building. This was a great gift and he should not be condemmed because he ran for election and lost.Perhaps he should have contacted the new city Council to tell them that day meetings at the Police Center was causing hardship to his patients [ especially the handicapped ones ]who could not get a parking space in the Doctor,s lot near the Doctor,s office. Someone from the City should be authorized by the Council to resolve this matter and bring it back to the Council for approval. We should all treat each other respectfully and leave personal feelings out of it. As I recall, the City did previously express their appreciation for Dr. Guidry,s contribution of the land before he was a candidate for election. Let us continue to appreciate his kindness.

Posted by SmokeyJoe on March 21, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No Smokeyjoe, it shouldn't have anything to do with the election but its kind of funny that the charging started only AFTER HE LOST. Dont' think he would have done it if he had won. It was a very immature way for a professional doctor to act.

Posted by happyonmarco on March 22, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

happyonmarco......The attempt to charge started after a number of his handicapped patients complained that they either had to park far away from his office or had to keep driving around until a space became available. I know this from personal knowledge that a number of his patients were very upset and it was extremely difficult and painful for them to walk the long distance. Perhaps a sign at the two entrances to the Doctors lot saying "DAY PARKING for DOCTORS PATIENTS ONLY"would help.

Posted by SmokeyJoe on March 22, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SmokeyJoe, sounds like a crock of BS to me. The first time Dr. Guidry blocked the lot there were just a few vehicles in the lot and from my vantage point standing outside it looked like the Doctor thought it was a big joke.

As to your tale about handicapped patients parking; The good Doctor has only three (3) handicap parking places and they are at the entrance to his building, a good distance away from the entrance to the Police Station. I really don't think a handicapped person would want to walk that far and if they were illegally parked their, I'm sure he could have had them removed by the Police. If the Doctor was truly concerned for his patients perhaps the Doctor should designate more handicapped parking.

To me it still sounds like sour grapes. Honor the handshake or the city should take the lights down, block the driveway to city property and pickup three parking places, end of story.

Posted by veridicus on March 22, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

veridicus, as usual you failed to consider what actually happened in this story. You obviously either didn't accept the explanation i gave or it didn't fit your view of the world. As I wrote above, the first day the good doctor blocked parking in his lot was NOT the day the city inconvenienced his patients and tennants. The infringment of property rights occured at the PRIOR early called City Council meeting which was conducted during WORK HOURS. That is the day that the handicapped were unable to utilize the spaces designated for them. The day you first observed his message (given quite effectively considering your interest), was during the FOLLOWING City Council Meeting. As for the handshake, we still do not know that it ever occurred. Only Rony Joel has made that claim and we have heard Rony bend the truth or attempt to place his actions in a better light before. One need only review past City Council video tapes to verify that behavior. Read the article again and you will see that even the City acknowledges that the City never intended to use the doctor's spaces during work hours. If the city is going to have City Council meetings during work hours, the City should have the courtesy to place signs up protecting the doctor's property rights during work hours. Take the city lights down if you like. The City benefits from their use or they would not have placed them there in the first place. I'm sure under this atmosphere, the doctor wouldn't care if the city closed up access to City property. That works both ways. Why am I even bothering with this? You never read these posts to completion anyway. Bottem line, never own property adjoining government owned property. The doctor's first mistake was donating the property to the city in the first place. Our City has proven to be a very bad neighbor in this case and also in the case of a water treatment plant elswhere on the island.

Posted by Lolala on March 23, 2008 at 7:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with verdicus! If Guidry won in the election he certainly wouldn't be charging for parking. What amazes me is how some of you continually get beaten down with loss after loss after nauseating loss still continue to defend losers like Hall, Guidry, Foster, Neylon, Davies and the rest of the losers that you, for some unknown reason, faithfully follow.

How many times must you lose before you realize that the MAJORITY of citizens voted against Guidry, Hall, Neylon and Batte and their agenda to ruin our city. The MAJORITY of citizens on Marco Island voted for a positive future and supported our previous council’s direction. Hall, Neylon, Davies, Foster, Erickson and Putnam should show they have some, any integrity and class, and publicly apologize to councilors Minozzi, Popoff, Trotter and Tucker. These councilors had the guts to put up with a tremendous amount of pressure and did the right thing in spite of recall attempts and public harassment.

Smokey Joe, you must be Guidry, the Howard Stern Diaper Boy, why else would you try and defend such childish behavior? Take a deep breath of reality and understand that negativity, bullying and threats lost in the last election while honesty, integrity and civility won!

Posted by Leroy on March 23, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have no idea what this article has to do with the prior election. Please Leroy, explain it to us.

Posted by Lolala on March 23, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lolala, I think I can answer that. I'd say that Dr. Skippy's timing had something to do with it. If it wasn't sour grapes why did the Doctor not inform the city of his parking concerns. Why? Because they didn't exist. It was just a childish act of a very immature person.

Posted by veridicus on March 23, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

I give up!

Posted by Lolala on March 23, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

veridicus and Leroy....When will you understand that the election is over and we will not have another for two years. there are 3 handicap spaces close to the front of the medical building but there are more than one Doctors office in the building and more that three handicapped patients are almost always present. In particular, a foot doctor has quite a few disabled patients that have to walk a long painfull distance from the back of the lot. The City of Marco has no parking rights during the daytime Doctors hours. How would you like your neighbors to park in your driveway or parking space. Would you have donated such valuable land to the city ? I doubt it ! Calling Dr. Guidry nasty names shows what kind of person you are. As for me, no, I am not Dr. Guidry. I am a resident and taxpayer who truly loves our Island Paradise and intends to work to help bring our Island residents back together and to heal the wounds that people like you are still causing. Please can you drop the nastyness.

Posted by SmokeyJoe on March 24, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SmokeyJoe, I fail to see your logic. As agreed there are only three handicapped parking spaces and as you say there are more then three handicapped patients, why then are there only three handicapped parking spaces. If I were the doctor and concerned about my patients I would certainly provide more then three handicapped parking spaces as close to the building as possible. The ADAAG requires a minimum amount of handicapped parking spaces (which is all the doctor provided for) and there is no maximum, so why only three.

I have parked in the doctor’s lot many times but never in a handicapped space for many reasons, it’s unfair to our handicapped citizens, it’s against the law and it carries a hefty $250 fine. To create a controversy over one isolated incident with a neighbor that has the power to enforce these regulations escapes all logic.

Nope, still sounds like sour grapes to me. I was however delighted to see the good doctor came to his senses and removed the toll signs and parking attendant at last nights meeting.

Posted by veridicus on March 25, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)



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