Not in my backyard: Opposition to location may not prevent Marco Island’s proposed charter high school

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The School Board is to consider the nearly 500-page charter application at a meeting scheduled for 3:30 p.m. on Oct. 21 at Immokalee High School.

— Location, location, location. While Marco Island residents want to know where the proposed charter high school will be, proponents say they’re more concerned about if it will be.

Opposition comes from residents living near the school’s proposed startup location, which could be the grounds of New Life Community Church. However, final approval of the charter rests in the hands of the five current Collier County School Board members.

The approval process is not a popularity contest, said the school’s lead proponent, Jane Watt.

The criteria for acceptance is based solely on state statute, something the five board members said they understand. District 1 member Pat Carroll has said she would prevent anything she could from hurting Lely High School, but generally supports charter and magnet schools.

The School Board is to consider the near 500-page charter application at a meeting scheduled Oct. 21. As one of their final decisions before the November election, they will decide whether the marine-biology, hospitality and environmentally focused curriculum, as well as budget, staffing and other aspects technically meet state requirements.

“If for any reason the School Board does not approve the application, we will appeal it at the state level,” assured Watt.

The school, which will also offer traditional curriculum, is dubbed Marco Island Academy, and has been organized in less than two years by the nonprofit Marco Island Discovery Center.

Recent letters to the editor and e-mails on the issue have been fiery. The opposition became so vehement that Watt said she had to request a restraining order against one of the lead opponents. Details could not immediately be confirmed by the Marco Island Police Department.

Residents near the church, located at 590 West Elkcam Circle, said they would support the school if it were somewhere else.

“We didn’t even have to name a location to submit our charter application,” said Watt.

“I thought it would be the perfect location because there aren’t many homes nearby. It’s right by the undeveloped Veterans’ (Community) Park,” she said. “There is a cemetery, a 7-Eleven, a U-Store-It... It’s not like it will be located in a botanical garden.”

The church is informally offering vacant land where 13 modulars, or trailers, could house temporary classrooms in the first year, which is slated for fall 2011. There may be as many as 25 trailers as the school is planned to grow from about 150 9th-graders in the first year to 500 9th- through 12th-graders within three years.

If the charter is approved, a conditional-use permit may be considered by the Marco Island Planning Board and City Council for the church location.

The longterm location remains unknown.

“We decided to stay away from Tract K for now because it was so contentious,” Watt said. Also, it would take a long time to get all the approvals to build on that Collier County School District-owned site, which is the home of protected nesting American bald eagles in the Tigertail area, she said.

A recent guest commentary in the Marco Eagle written by Larry Sacher raised questions about city officials volunteering for the school.

The charter application lists volunteers to include councilmen Joe Batte, Chuck Kiester, Larry Magel and Frank Recker, as well as Planning Board member Irv Povlow.

“Most egregious of all, since he is the primary source of data for consideration by the Planning Board, is City Planner Kris Van Lengen, who is listed as a member of the school’s land use committee,” Sacher wrote.

However, all the elected officials, with the exception of Recker, deny being volunteers. They said they support a high school on the Island, but it does not require them to recuse themselves from voting or cause a conflict of interest.

“Veterans of the armed services vote on veterans’ matters; I am a member of the historical society and voted on funding; we vote on taxes which we all have to pay; utility rates which apply to some of us more than others... Some of us are also members of the police, fire, or parks and rec foundations. But we vote on all related issues,” Recker wrote in an e-mail to the Eagle.

Regarding any future votes he’ll take regarding the school building and location, while taking in effect any traffic or other infrastructure concerns, Recker said:

“Notwithstanding the law and my support for a charter high school, I am confident that I can be fair and objective.”

Van Lengen, who couldn’t be reached while out of the office for several days, served as a source for local land use laws early in the proposal, Watt said.

The volunteer list, which isn’t required anyway, was a misnomer and included people who signed up to receive information, she said.

Proponents are focused on getting the charter approved and fundraising, Watt said.

Operating the school is estimated to cost $1.7 million in the first year and to increase incrementally based on new students, per the charter application. Those costs are paid through donations, as well as state and local tax allocations that would have gone to the schools the students are zoned to attend. In the case of Marco Island residents, that is Lely High School.

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captnjimbo writes:

Good article...get the facts out...Jane Watt...more power to you.

Wish we could get the location banged out and build baby build instead of the two step but unless we can pull together it looks like an alternative.

Why not pull together?

dwbadger writes:

This is a polarizing topic due to the lack of transparency. Many questions have been asked with no answers. What will be the cost of the school and all of the infrastructure? By infrastructure I mean roads, traffic lights, water lines, sewer, etc.? What will be the on going costs in addition to the operating expenses? Additional Police and Fire personnel? Additional Police and Fire equipment? I keep hearing that taxes will not be raised by the construction of a school but there has been no data presented that shows that. I don't live near Tract K or the trailor location. Why was the YMCA site abandoned? What is the current enrollment of 8th graders at the Marco Charter School? Has anyone surveyed this group to find out how many students would attend trailor classrooms next year?

Let's get all of the facts on the table so an intellegent decision can be made. Facts mean more than emotions.

Does Marco need a high school for a higher quality education or so kids don't need to travel to a high school? How would we know that a higher eduction would be achieved? Have new teachers with a great track record of teaching already committed to teach at the new school? If it is to prevent kids having to travel to school would the school only be for island residents?

Fossil writes:

Build the school. Our kids deserve this great opportunity. This school proposal is a wonderful idea to educate our kids in their hometown. The people behind this are our parents and neighbors. They are people who have invested in this city as families and business men and women. If we don't support this, why did we become a city? Everyone should be behind this, Parents, Grandparents, Religious leaders, educators, Police Chief, Fire Chief and Council members alike. Speak out publicly and support this important community effort. Transparancy, for what? It's a charter school proposal for goodness sake. Who are these naysayers? That's the transparancy I want. Who in their right mind would be against a school like this? Are they people who just hate kids? Forget the cost, we are a wealthy community that just spent millions on a utility we never needed and are about to spend another 50 grand for a report that a citizen UAB already accomplished. This inititive is an investment in the future of our children and our community. It is about legacy our future and growth. It is for our children. It is a statement about Marco Island and the people who live here. Support this project. This is something our entire city can get behind and support. Your neighbors have worked hard for this, it is for our kids and is a worthy cause. Let's just do it.

marco97 writes:

Fossil, I can't believe anyone would oppose a high school on this island. I guess all these people who are against it traveled 20 miles a day to there school.

dwbadger writes:

Fossil....."The people behind this are our parents and neighbors. They are people who have invested in this city as families and business men and women." ...Once again a statement by you with no back up or foundation. Have all of these people that are behind the school open their wallets and pay for it and put an escrow fund together that will pay for all infrastructure and operating expenses.

I am in my right mind and cannot afford additional tax dollars to support a school. I agree with you that the city is wasting money on a consultant after the UAB made good recommendations.

The transparency I'm asking for is answers to how the school would be funded. You ramble in your post but seem to be unable to answer the questions asked. Let me know when you can provide answers to the questions I raised.

dwbadger writes:

marco97.....Is that the reason we need a school because of the 20 miles that need to be traveled to school?

I'm looking for the reason and the articles and blogs don't seem to be consistent. If that is the reason should the school be sized only for island children so others do not have to travel?

marco97 writes:

If you have a good school people will travel to it.
I think a 20 mile ride each day is a bit excessive. Did you go 20 mile a day to your school? Why are you against a school on this island? do you have children in school on the island?

dwbadger writes:

marco97....I am not against a school on the island, I've asked questions that need answers. Can you provide the answers? You didn't answer the question I asked you if driving 20 miles is the reason for the school as you stated. Is it? I didn't say a 20 mile ride was not excessive. I asked if you feel the school should be sized for the island kids only since you stated that the travel distance was the reason. What is an acceptable distance to have children travel to school? To answer your questions.... I took a bus to the school I attended. I was the first one picked up in the morning and the last dropped off at night. The straight distance was about 5 miles and but unfortunately it was a rural area and the total commute took about 40 minutes. No I do not have children attending school on the island.

deltarome writes:

Badger, you are obviously against the school for any reason.

dwbadger writes:

delta...Are you another voice that cannot answer the questions posed? Why can't anyone answer the questions without accusing me of being against a school. I notice this a great deal on these blogs how many of you sling accusations but never answer questions asked. You obviously don't know me and your statement has no merit. I've asked for an accounting on how the school will be paid for including all infrastructure costs and all operating costs without using additional tax payer dollars? Can you answer that? It was stated above that the reason for a school was that children had to travel 20 miles to get to the current school. I asked what is an acceptable distance? I asked if the distance traveled for our children to leave the island is excessive why do we expect children to travel to the island to attend a school? Should the school be sized for the size of the island children population? I don't understand why you cannot answer these simple questions?

Why when questions are raised does everyone get defensive?

comment writes:

Instead of spending all this time and energy on a Charter School. Why don't these parents go up to Lely High School and make all the principals, teachers and for that matter the students accountable, not to mention the School Board.

Spend your energy on improving Lely - if that indeed is your problem.

I think that it is all about "elitism" Marco Island is showing their true colors.

Work with Lely to put in the programs that this "Charter School" wants. Don't the students that have no choice but to go to Lely deserve that opportunity. Why is that only for Marco Island.

ed34145 writes:

20 miles? Where did that come from? Check the mileage on Mapquest....I think you'll find that it is about 13 miles to Lely High School. As usual, people spouting off without having the facts...........

marco97 writes:

in response to ed34145:

20 miles? Where did that come from? Check the mileage on Mapquest....I think you'll find that it is about 13 miles to Lely High School. As usual, people spouting off without having the facts...........

ok Ed 26 miles round trip, the 20 miles was a round trip number.

marco97 writes:

DW if you don't have kids in school and you are not against one why do you need answers about commute times and other things that do not affect you?

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MarcoPasha writes:

This is my second posting because the first one seems to be dropped.

There is already a Charter High School on the Island: The Christian Academy. They have about 6 pupils per teacher, hardly crowded. Do we really need another High School for those kids that cannot wake up before 9:00 AM? Get them off the internet early at night.

How do you perform an open flame physics experiment in a FEMA trailer and call it world class education? We will have to beef up everything from Fire department to Police force. I can smell more fire hydrant studies by NBC and more reserves on your next tax bill.

Think also more of plush administrator jobs for our city council members and Jane Watt. Nonprofit status, hence tax free income and benefits from donations, a bit of occupational therapy in paradise and lots of political visibility, maybe even an appearance with Jacque Cousteau’s grandson on CNN. I am sure you remember the need for a water plant, electric plant and more city lights than Paris on Collier Boulevard.

dwbadger writes:

Klab....Once again you never answer any questions or defend a position. You just accuse others and insukt those that try to have a meaningful discussion. Go to the top of the topic and answer the questions posed. If you can't why throw insults.

Where is the money coming from for the infrastructure, operating expenses, police,fire, roads, water etc? Just answer the question without throwing insults.

dwbadger writes:

marco97.....You raised the commute time issue when you couldn't answer the questions I asked. You said a 20 mile commute was to long. I asked you what an acceptable commute distance was? You still haven't answered that. If you can't defend your comments don't make them. I asked how the school infrastructure and operating expenses will be funded. If the school and the supporters can guarantee that there will be no additional tax dollars used fro infrastructure, police, water, fire department, etc. I don't have an issue. Can that be guaranteed as stated in the article?

I then asked you if a 20 mile commute is too long should the school be built only for the island children since it would be unreasonable for others to make that commute to the island. Why can't you simply answer the questions and defend your comments.

marco97 writes:

in response to MarcoPasha:

This is my second posting because the first one seems to be dropped.

There is already a Charter High School on the Island: The Christian Academy. They have about 6 pupils per teacher, hardly crowded. Do we really need another High School for those kids that cannot wake up before 9:00 AM? Get them off the internet early at night.

How do you perform an open flame physics experiment in a FEMA trailer and call it world class education? We will have to beef up everything from Fire department to Police force. I can smell more fire hydrant studies by NBC and more reserves on your next tax bill.

Think also more of plush administrator jobs for our city council members and Jane Watt. Nonprofit status, hence tax free income and benefits from donations, a bit of occupational therapy in paradise and lots of political visibility, maybe even an appearance with Jacque Cousteau’s grandson on CNN. I am sure you remember the need for a water plant, electric plant and more city lights than Paris on Collier Boulevard.

9:00am they need to be up by 7:00 to get to school here on the island and I live a mile away, if they go to Lely they need to be up much earlier. If you do not have kids in school why do you care? how is a school going to affect you?

dwbadger writes:

Klab...Where is the money coming from?

marco97 writes:

in response to dwbadger:

marco97.....You raised the commute time issue when you couldn't answer the questions I asked. You said a 20 mile commute was to long. I asked you what an acceptable commute distance was? You still haven't answered that. If you can't defend your comments don't make them. I asked how the school infrastructure and operating expenses will be funded. If the school and the supporters can guarantee that there will be no additional tax dollars used fro infrastructure, police, water, fire department, etc. I don't have an issue. Can that be guaranteed as stated in the article?

I then asked you if a 20 mile commute is too long should the school be built only for the island children since it would be unreasonable for others to make that commute to the island. Why can't you simply answer the questions and defend your comments.

Why do you object to a school?

dwbadger writes:

Klab.....Someone should be able to answer the question if the school will cost any additiobal tax dollars, If yes how much, If No, show me the figures. If someone can't answer that how can funding be secured?

dwbadger writes:

marco97...How many children do you have at the charter middle school or lely high school?

dwbadger writes:

Klab...Your throwing insults again....Try to stay on topic.

The comment was made that the school would not increase taxes at all. All money would come from taxes being paid for the Lely High School. I'm simply asking to see the figures that supports that position.

Now try to answer a question without going off topic, throwing insults or bringing up other topics that you are upset about. If you can't answer the question, that's OK. Just say so and move on.

dwbadger writes:

What is MMM that continues tobe thrown around?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Klabs,

Who the heck cares about Aceri and Brillo. You not only seem to be fixated on them but you are appearing to be the mouthpiece for Jane Watt.
Is that true?

happy6 writes:

klabtrap is a moron, worn out, nothing to do and can't even speak the King's English...he accuses people of being in the mafia, kkk and any other ridiculous claim he can make...he has unsuccessfully tried to take over this blog..ask brillo....this person is a sick individual with nothing better to do with his time...ignore the moron....and bring it on klabermouth.

marcomermaid writes:

DWbadger wrote: "This is a polarizing issue due to the lack of transparency. Many questions have been asked with no answers".
Marco is still waiting for a logical explanation from the Academy on this question:
WHY did they say our Council and Planning Board members are their Volunteers (as stated in their formal application to become a school)?
In this article, Jane is quoted:
"The volunteer list, which isn’t required anyway, was a misnomer and included people who signed up to receive information".

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to marcomermaid:

DWbadger wrote: "This is a polarizing issue due to the lack of transparency. Many questions have been asked with no answers".
Marco is still waiting for a logical explanation from the Academy on this question:
WHY did they say our Council and Planning Board members are their Volunteers (as stated in their formal application to become a school)?
In this article, Jane is quoted:
"The volunteer list, which isn’t required anyway, was a misnomer and included people who signed up to receive information".

Does there appear in those documents inconsistancies including what you said and the personal references who are mostly from other people who are connected to the Acadamy. None of the references are from former employers or people who would be considered un-biased except one from a family lawyer. I would hope that the members of the CCSB are smart enough people to see this for themselves. Wouldn't you think?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to Klabautermann:

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Klabs old boy,

How could you not know who Jane Watt is? She is quoted in the article you are blogging. She is the one who is leading your battle.

marcomermaid writes:

in response to Ocram:

Does there appear in those documents inconsistancies including what you said and the personal references who are mostly from other people who are connected to the Acadamy. None of the references are from former employers or people who would be considered un-biased except one from a family lawyer. I would hope that the members of the CCSB are smart enough people to see this for themselves. Wouldn't you think?

Yes, it is the inconsistencies (and lack of any "real information") that people are questioning----and it seems no one is receiving satisfactory answers. I am sure the CCSB will be able to figure it out.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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To be honest, I have not seen much support from people or kids on the Island. Whatever minimal support has been diminishing day by day with the inconsistancies in the application. Names of people listed as volunteers who are not volunteers. Organizations listed under Community Support that were only spoken to and never gave their support, personal Board references by what one would call insiders.
I wish I had the time to go over the application page by page. I wonder how much more there is that can be ignored by Jane saying, well that really does not mean what that says, it means something else. No wonder her references are from a potential employee of the Acadamy and a listed volunteer.

Fossil writes:

Those who ask for specific accounting are simply missing the ring. I am starting to believe there are very few of you oppossing this project and that gives me hope. As for the taxpayer who is concerned with seeing his taxes increase I hope you attend City Council meetings and protest the increases in fees whenever a utility is found to be underfunded. I hope the next time a large corporate hotel attempts to get approval to build, you ask the same important questions. At what cost will Marco Island taxpayers be burdened? How many more police will be needed to for the additional tourists? How many ladder trucks will our fire department require? Will the hotels pay for their replacment? How many more EMTs will be required to take care of the increase in tourists? Who will pay to fix our roads when all those rental cars start driving up and down our major roads? Will the hotel pay equal rates for the reuse water being used in their common areas? Will the commercial interests help maintain our water plant? Will they contribute significantly to beach renourishment? Just how much do commercial ventures cost a community the size of Marco Island? What do they pay to defer this cost to the community? This project is for our children and you object because you don't have a complete accounting? Many projects are initiated without full accounting. Who are you to ask anyway? Unless you care as much about the costs the commercial community imposes on the taxpayer, then your priorities are misplaced. This project will benefit all of us in the long run. Unlike commercial ventures this project is for the general welfare and good of our citizens. If you are in your right mind, you will support it. Let's do just do it. It's the right thing.

u2cane writes:

The last paragraph says it all. This school will hurt Lely and cost taxpayers money, no matter what Watt seems to claim. Maybe she can go to Goodland and get a school there, they need one don't they? Oh, and Isles of Capri will need their own as well.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

I have a feeling if you ask the students on Marco if they would want to go to a high school here or off of the Island most would opt for off of island. At least that is the case to the ones that I have spoken to. "Hey there is freedom and new friends over that bridge. " How many of us wanted to stay right near home all the way thru elementary and high school? There are new friends and experiences to be had.

lauralbi1 writes:

To my fellow bloggers: As you all know (those that blog regularly) I am always trying to make the point to avoid personal attacks and personal comments in responding to opinions on different subjects. So, I thought about this overnight, and while I meant what I said, there should never be any personal comments in these blogs. And for that, I aopologize.
I assure you that I am as passionate about protecting our neighborhood as Jane Watt is about the MIMS.
Deltona, via their Deed Restrictions, has once again protected a neighborhood from suffering blight at the hands of others. This will all be made Public very soon. The trailers and High School on this Church property will not and CANNOT happen. And there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
Ed Issler

marcoislander writes:

watt will probably have to take out restraining orders on the whole island except for a few other lizards that go along with you. ve leden find a new job!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

The restraining order should be on Watt herself!

Right away if she does not get what she wants from the Collier County School Board she says that she is going to appeal the issues to the state level That, to me, appears to be a threat to the School Board that she really does not care what they say unless it is her way. Does she really think that the School Board Members do not already know that without the threat being vocalized and put into print?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Now for a bit of entertainment!!!

I think I should have called the previous Blog,
"Watt Chutzpah" and leave it at that.

giggel211 writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

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And again this is how rumors start...
for clarification:
6L Farms is located East of SR 41 across from Eagle Lakes Golf Club - not in Immokalee and still in the current Marco Island school district!! These kids already go to school here.

MarcoPasha writes:

in response to marco97:

9:00am they need to be up by 7:00 to get to school here on the island and I live a mile away, if they go to Lely they need to be up much earlier. If you do not have kids in school why do you care? how is a school going to affect you?

If it takes them more than 2 hours to get to school on a 4x6 mile Island, maybe it is about time you and your kids seriously consider time management Lely is only 13 miles away, if it is taking that much time to get to the school, alternative public transportation should be considered like the rest of the world. I do know kids that go to Lely and stay around for sports or for ROTC commitments afterward but their parents do not spend time making collage of internet clips trying to convince that if they will build a Taj Mahal with public funds, AKA my tax dollars, and the world of so called technical professionals will swamp the Island with more money and votes for clueless public officials.
High School is where young minds are supposed to be learning about standing on their own, learning about other cultures and managing their time and relationships. You can not nurse them forever.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Another case of what appears to be prefabrication has been brought to my attention!

There seems to have been a request for a restraining order for an e-amil that was not favored by Jane. But, no restraining order appears to have been issued.

Like in an old Wendy's commerical where the two old ladies are saying "Where's the Beef". This episode can be called:

"Watt Restraining Order?"

4marcoisland writes:

in response to MarcoPasha:

This is my second posting because the first one seems to be dropped.

There is already a Charter High School on the Island: The Christian Academy. They have about 6 pupils per teacher, hardly crowded. Do we really need another High School for those kids that cannot wake up before 9:00 AM? Get them off the internet early at night.

How do you perform an open flame physics experiment in a FEMA trailer and call it world class education? We will have to beef up everything from Fire department to Police force. I can smell more fire hydrant studies by NBC and more reserves on your next tax bill.

Think also more of plush administrator jobs for our city council members and Jane Watt. Nonprofit status, hence tax free income and benefits from donations, a bit of occupational therapy in paradise and lots of political visibility, maybe even an appearance with Jacque Cousteau’s grandson on CNN. I am sure you remember the need for a water plant, electric plant and more city lights than Paris on Collier Boulevard.

The Winterberry Christian Academy is not a Charter High School. It is a private Christian school serving grades 6-12 with a small number of students. It is not free. You pay to attend. Much different than a public school. Their curriculum is web-based. Completely different from the Marco Island Academy.

4marcoisland writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

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The students from 6L farms are located on Rt 41 in East Naples. These same students attend the Tommie Barfield Elementary School and the Marco Island Charter Middle School. They are not bused from Immokalee! Quit spreading misinformation!

4marcoisland writes:

in response to Ocram:

To be honest, I have not seen much support from people or kids on the Island. Whatever minimal support has been diminishing day by day with the inconsistancies in the application. Names of people listed as volunteers who are not volunteers. Organizations listed under Community Support that were only spoken to and never gave their support, personal Board references by what one would call insiders.
I wish I had the time to go over the application page by page. I wonder how much more there is that can be ignored by Jane saying, well that really does not mean what that says, it means something else. No wonder her references are from a potential employee of the Acadamy and a listed volunteer.

As long as we are stating the facts, one of her references is from a volunteer who has no interest in being a potential employee of the Academy. The other reference is the Director of Education from Jean-Michel Cousteau's Ocean Futures, who has been working with her for 15 months. He is NOT a potential employee of the Academy and he is NOT listed as a volunteer.
Obviously you do not know many of the people with school aged children on this island or you wouldn't have made the comment you made about support from parents.

marco97 writes:

in response to MarcoPasha:

If it takes them more than 2 hours to get to school on a 4x6 mile Island, maybe it is about time you and your kids seriously consider time management Lely is only 13 miles away, if it is taking that much time to get to the school, alternative public transportation should be considered like the rest of the world. I do know kids that go to Lely and stay around for sports or for ROTC commitments afterward but their parents do not spend time making collage of internet clips trying to convince that if they will build a Taj Mahal with public funds, AKA my tax dollars, and the world of so called technical professionals will swamp the Island with more money and votes for clueless public officials.
High School is where young minds are supposed to be learning about standing on their own, learning about other cultures and managing their time and relationships. You can not nurse them forever.

They get to school at 7:45, I don't think 45 minuets from when they wake up until they are in school is bad time management.

Johnnymarco49 writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

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Johnnymarco49 writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

To my fellow bloggers: As you all know (those that blog regularly) I am always trying to make the point to avoid personal attacks and personal comments in responding to opinions on different subjects. So, I thought about this overnight, and while I meant what I said, there should never be any personal comments in these blogs. And for that, I aopologize.
I assure you that I am as passionate about protecting our neighborhood as Jane Watt is about the MIMS.
Deltona, via their Deed Restrictions, has once again protected a neighborhood from suffering blight at the hands of others. This will all be made Public very soon. The trailers and High School on this Church property will not and CANNOT happen. And there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
Ed Issler

Since there is nothing you can do about it and it probably will happen I suggest you move away. Run Ed run...the farther the better.

lauralbi1 writes:

Again, everyone, this is about Land Use, Schools, Deltona and our neighborhoods. The trailers, and High school cannot and will not be on this property. It is that simple. No Planning Board, no legal lease, no permits, it is done as far as the Church property is concerned. The language is very clear. Finished. Our Attorney (the neighborhood's) should make contact with all parties next week. I do not make legal decisions.
For those that want to continue the rhetoric, please go ahead. But until the proposed Charter School decides to go to the YMCA or the Charter Middle School, in my opinion, I do not see this becoming a reality.
It would have been well on it's way at the YMCA, but for some reason the School bailed out. I believe it was delusions of grandeur.
Ed Issler

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to 4marcoisland:

As long as we are stating the facts, one of her references is from a volunteer who has no interest in being a potential employee of the Academy. The other reference is the Director of Education from Jean-Michel Cousteau's Ocean Futures, who has been working with her for 15 months. He is NOT a potential employee of the Academy and he is NOT listed as a volunteer.
Obviously you do not know many of the people with school aged children on this island or you wouldn't have made the comment you made about support from parents.

Fact 1: Both references are from inside people, do not tell me that the person from JMCOF does not get funded one way or the another for what he is doing?

2. What are you talking about me not knowing many of anything. To me the parents who I know have said that they did not want their kids going to your school because their own kids say that they do not want to go there.
That is my fact.

There may be a high percentage of parents, as you suggest who wish for their children to go to the Acadamy, but there are quite a few who do not.

I would like for you to poll not only the parents but the kids going to Lely from Marco and see how many want to go to school in a trailer, instead of enjoying all of the growing up experiences of being in a REAL high school during the most memorable years of their lives.

Again, the point relating to references was why aren't the references from outside professional people with no vested interest in the Acadamy? You know, like from a former employer?
HMMMMMMMMM?????

I have not made any comments about support from parents in any negative way nor have I said anything that was not consistant with my own personal contacts.

Do not try to maneuver the conversation to make it look like anything else.

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