Former NFL kicker Mike Vanderjagt to be football coach at Marco school

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Mike Vanderjagt, former NFL record-setting field goal kicker, talked about his former Indianapolis teammate, quarterback Peyton Manning, on the Colts letting Manning go on Wednesday.

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Roger LaLonde Staff Mike Vanderjagt, former NFL record-setting field goal kicker, talked about his former Indianapolis teammate, quarterback Peyton Manning, on the Colts letting Manning go on Wednesday.

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Mike Vanderjagt, former NFL record-setting field goal kicker, talked about his former Indianapolis teammate, quarterback Peyton Manning, on the Colts letting Manning go on Wednesday.

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Roger LaLonde Staff Mike Vanderjagt, former NFL record-setting field goal kicker, talked about his former Indianapolis teammate, quarterback Peyton Manning, on the Colts letting Manning go on Wednesday.

— The new Marco Island Academy has decided to add football to its sports programs, and it will have a big name heading the coaching staff.

Mike Vanderjagt, former record-setting NFL place-kicker, is the coach.

“I’ve wanted to get into coaching for a couple of years now,” Vanderjagt said. “I talked to Lely (High) and a few other schools, but nothing materialized. Now I can stay on the island and coach, it is the best of both worlds.

Vanderjagt, 41, will coordinate the entire program as it develops at rhe new high school. His career field goal accuracy was 86.5 percent.

“There has been a lot of interest and it seems like there is no time like the present to start football as we grow with other sports programs,” said Roger Raymond, the school’s first athletic director.

The CFL’s Toronto Argonauts signed him in 1996, with Vanderjagt being a key in the team winning two straight Grey Cups. In those two championship games he made all nine of his field goal attempts. For his 1996 efforts he was named the game’s most valuable Canadian. He also led the CFL in yardage per punt in 1997.

He played nine seasons in the NFL, for the Indianapolis Colts from 1998-2005 and with the Dallas Cowboys in 2006. He was released in the latter portion of the 2006 season.

He is best known for his stupendous field-goal kicking effort that actually took parts of three seasons. While with the Colts he made good on four field goals at the end of the 2002 season, then went a perfect 37-for-37 in 2003, until his streak ended in the 2004. Few were chippies, with the longest being 51 yards.

Jane Watt, the school’s chairwoman, is thrilled to have Vanderjagt.

“Can you believe, it?,” she said. “I am so excited that he wants to work with the kids. We are so lucky to have this amazing professional to share his knowledge and talents. Most kids only dream of meeting a professional football player, and to actually be coached by one is amazing.”

Chris Pellant, school principal joins in the enthusiasm.

“I’m really excited about coach Vanderjagt as our head football coach,” he said. “His background as a professional football player adds instant credibility to the program. No one becomes the most accurate kicker in NFL history without having an incredible work ethic and passion for the sport. More importantly, however, is his ability to work well with kids and to be a positive role model for them.”

Vanderjagt owns and operates Vandy’s 5 Brothers Restaurant on the island. He also resides on Marco with wife Janalyn and son Jay.

He has worked with young kids on the island in football, basketball and soccer.

“I like working with that age group,” he said. “I like their innocence of them for one. I want to have a program that includes a lot of fun. Basically, coaching at this age is like an artist’s version of a blank canvass. You can kind of mold them to be a good player because they have no preconceived notions in general about sports.”

Vanderjagt has already talked to possible coaching assistants, all from Marco, he said.

Also on his side is Tony Dungy, former NFL championship coach, who Vanderjagt was under at Indianapolis.

“I plan on taking my staff up to Tampa for a chalk-talk with him,” Vanderjagt said. “He is on my speed dial.”

The school will start out with freshman and sophomore students. Will that be difficult to recruit players who now go to Lely, St. John Neumann, or other off-island schools?

All those involved with the school think that Vanderjagt can have an immediate impact on attracting additional students. Like some of those schools, it can enroll students from all over the county.

“I can tell those who are considering coming here that I will make them into a good football player,” Vanderjagt said. “As for scholarships, Peyton Manning went to a small high school. As we grow we can provide as good an opportunity as anywhere in Southwest Florida.”

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Ian_Curtis writes:

So much for this being an academic school that does not need football to be successful. They cannot get people to enroll so they add football with a big name to sell. Where are they going to play?

RayPray writes:

>>> Mike, don't quit that highbrow day job!

From:

What's become of Mike Vanderjagt?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post...

"So he’s here, at a pizza place he owns with his brothers. He’s not a recluse, but he’s pretty hard to find. Vandy’s Five Brothers restaurant is in one of the more remote places in the continental U.S."

"And even then, Vanderjagt’s restaurant is tucked behind a grocery store, facing a little-used road and an alley."

"For Vanderjagt, this is Elba."

“Am I in hiding?” he says. “In a way, yes.”

freedomofspeech1 writes:

This is simply another "desperation" move on the part of the organizers of this school. The enrollment numbers are not where they should be and this is an extremely far stretching move on their part in the eleventh hour. Look at this from a logical standpoint. The school will only initially have 9th and 10th grade students. The school at best will have 50-75 students. Football is an extremely costly sport to participate in and almost every school in the country with an enrollment of under 100 has probably never attempted to do this. What parents need to do just as they evaluate the school from an academic standpoint is determine what value they are getting. Any student that attends this school because they are now offering football will be relegated to the following fate: 1)Participate in a JV level program for several years and for most if not all of the initial students their entire 4 years.
2)Accept the fact that with thir size they will NEVER play against Collier Countie's finest i.e. Naples, Lely, Gulf Coast, Barron or Palmetto. It just will NEVER happen. Just like upstart programs like FBA and CSN...they will play against VERY weak competition and NEVER get the exposure of that of the public schools.
3)They will be undermanned severely even against schools of their own size because no school would even attempt to put a team on the field with a school enrollment of under 100. what this will mean is a weekly "beatdown" almost to the point where the EMS will have to call in backups!
Hopefully the prospective parents of any Marco student looks into this in the big picture sense and sees that this like many other programs on Marco are a JOKE. Everyone knows that if you want your child to excell it is not offered on the island. There are zero quality programs on the island. If you want your child to be taught by a former "kicker" be my guest....Not my idea of quality. If you are lazy and are looking for the easy way out...go ahead with the rest of the "Marco Misfits"

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Once again a reason for parents to be careful.

This person has no teaching experience, most likely does not have any educational credentials. Again what are the credentials of the academic instructors, if you have any?

It truly appears that not a single academic teacher has been hired by the Academy as like this person the acadamy would have been yelling from the rafters.

Another thing. Why is there a fund raiser being held in Miami on June 16th for a Marco Island School? The one that Rhee and former Governor Bush will be part of. Could it be that the proponents do not wish for the sponsors to hear the "truth" from the majority of residents on the island not just the "some opposed residents" as Watt stated in the other newspaper article that posted the story.

livingonmarco writes:

The High School gettin Football. Too funny. They are now pushing football to the middle school. Roger Raymond the athletic director for both schools............ who is paying for all the equipment and the expenses. Is the middle school paying for it? Mr. Raymond can NOT do both jobs - let's be real. Get good teachers to teach our children who are trying to get into a good college.

freedomofspeech1 writes:

This school has not hired one single teacher or administrator that is what I would label as "world class". Their whole idea behind the school was to offer a superior alternative to Lely. Thus far all they have done is raid the middle school of a few "inexperienced" teachers that are simply "popular". The football coach has no experience as a coach. He has never coached on any level. He probably would be more qualified as a soccer coach. Lets face it, I dont recall any former kickers turning into quality coaches. The organizers are hiring people that the kids would like in hopes that they follow them. They have not hire one superior teacher or coach. The AD ran middle school sports. Again, no experience.
This school is a major dissapointment to many as they have been promised world class and are getting mediocre class. There is a word for misrepresentation...Websters calls it "fraud". Im still waiting for Jacques Cousteau's family to show up!
HAHAHAH! This is a JOKE!

RayPray writes:

Anyone who lets this gormless, self-serving promoting crew to destroy their kids' brains must be guilty of child abuse:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011...

Brisla writes:

My son has been coached by Mike in soccer, football, and basketball, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that Mike is an excellent coach. He is a thoughtful and caring guy who works very well with the kids. And he is not "just a kicker" - he was a world-class goalie for Canada in soccer and a college quarterback in addition to being a kicker. His addition to the Academy is a great move!

freedomofspeech1 writes:

in response to Brisla:

My son has been coached by Mike in soccer, football, and basketball, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that Mike is an excellent coach. He is a thoughtful and caring guy who works very well with the kids. And he is not "just a kicker" - he was a world-class goalie for Canada in soccer and a college quarterback in addition to being a kicker. His addition to the Academy is a great move!

What Academy? With less than 50 kids signed up how can they even open neverless offer football!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Marianne,

The man is not a teacher no more than the any other non certified person is a lawyer or a doctor. Calling him a teacher is not only an insult to those who have studied to be teachers but is also showing your absolute ignorance to the field of education. He was a football player, is a bar owner and until he goes and gets a degree he is not a certified teacher.
He may be wonderful as a little league football coach but does not have the credentials to be an educator.

Stop making something out of nothing more than that.

RayPray writes:

"With less than 50 kids signed up how can they even open neverless offer football!"

Perhaps this will be no more than 'Fantasy Football.'

Then even Gunga Jane can play!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Ray,

Maybe she can put the tortoises on steroids.

themessiah writes:

At least we know where they will eat their celebratory pizza if the "team" wins!

Wildcat writes:

I'm going to take your advice. I'll take my kids and run - run TO the Academy. The football program with the addition of Mike Vanderjagt is yet another reason the Academy will be a success.

I knew Mike even before he moved here. He is a great dad, a great coach, and knows a lot about sports - particularly football. How many of you have been in the NFL? How many of you made the trip to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii? Mike has.

My guess is that you who are saying bad things about the football program are the same uninformed nay-sayers that have no vision and have been opposed to the school from the start. If your child is not going to attend the new school, why do you care if someone else does?

I will consider it an honor and a privilege to have my sons coached by Mike, one of the greatest kickers in NFL history. And I would encourage you to do what you tell your kids to do - be a good sport!

ajm3s writes:

I just do not get it. The school is talking of a football program for a yet to be seated freshman and sophomore class, with a curriculum that is said to be innovative and different than that offered by other public schools. Is it really different than other local public schools? Can someone compare and contrast?

God help guide the charter committee to focus on students and teachers, not coaches. Priorities matter.

But hey, he's a ex-NFL kicker and that will create a glazed looked from parents.

Is this another marketing salvo, to have a marquee name? Of all programs to initiate and staff. Quite an achievement of scholastic proportions!

I would love to support a charter high school, but why does the committee lose focus so easily and blinded by stars.

Jimmy2323 writes:

Typical Marco Islanders!
Bury the guy before he gets a chance. I've personally known Mike for several years and I know he will make a great football coach and mentor. The people of Marco don't realize how fortunate you are to have a guy like Mike who is not only willing but extremely eager and more than qualified to implement a strong football program. "He who lives in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Congratulations Mike! I know you'll do a great job and jealous ones envy.

RayPray writes:

in response to Wildcat:

I'm going to take your advice. I'll take my kids and run - run TO the Academy. The football program with the addition of Mike Vanderjagt is yet another reason the Academy will be a success.

I knew Mike even before he moved here. He is a great dad, a great coach, and knows a lot about sports - particularly football. How many of you have been in the NFL? How many of you made the trip to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii? Mike has.

My guess is that you who are saying bad things about the football program are the same uninformed nay-sayers that have no vision and have been opposed to the school from the start. If your child is not going to attend the new school, why do you care if someone else does?

I will consider it an honor and a privilege to have my sons coached by Mike, one of the greatest kickers in NFL history. And I would encourage you to do what you tell your kids to do - be a good sport!

"I will consider it an honor and a privilege to have my sons coached by Mike...."

If you don't want these kids lapsing into smug and clueless lunkheads like yourself, you might reconsider....

For young boys football is an especially vile & reprehensible activity:

"...when the researchers started dragging in apparently healthy non-concussed players for memory tests and MRI's to establish a control group, they were surprised to discover that players had impaired brain functioning despite not having suffered a concussion. Ultimately, the study found that the sheer number of hits that a player had taken over the previous week, completely irrespective of whether a concussion had been suffered, was the best predictor of brain impairment."

"this is particularly scary, because it means that the vast majority of brain damage in football players might be occurring in the absence of any easily recognizable symptoms...."

There are many other healthy sports choices....

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

IN THE BEGINNING!!!!!

There was this world class academy, which wasn't world class other than in the minds of the proponents. There were to be all of these "interested organizations" and teachers from "all over the country" seeking to take part in this endeavor. Sports were not a main focus "superior education" was.

THEN THE WATERS PARTED:
And reality crept in.

Now Jane is raving about a man who has no, yes no, secondary educational experience to be a high school "Football Coach". A principal with no secondary school experience, who got his doctorate degree work from a little known internet college with 6 weeks of classroom work and the balance on the internet. Teachers who we do not know from where they come or what in the way of certifications they have or do the leader's of the Academy which to tell us these vital facts. (This is where the real education is going to come from).
A trailer park setting for who knows how many years and an enrollment with people who now think that their children are going to get a good education by having a former NFL player who, he himself said that he was not accepted to teach in the Naples Schools. And to top it off a fundraiser for the Academy being held in Miami because having it on Marco may be too close to the truth for those sponsoring it.

Parents, it is your child's future and college acceptance you are playing Russian Roulette with.

In a year or two it may be too late to think this through and make up for your uninformed "choice".

SunBum writes:

Herein lies no surprise. MICMS opened with 75 students with much the same scrutiny. Was it a mistake? Or does the school’s record speak for itself?

Most of us who have chosen to live on Marco did so because we prefer the smaller community environment as opposed to the far larger city of Naples.

The current school choice parallels this community option giving students the opportunity to attend a smaller school environment should they so choose for, inarguably, one size does not fit all.

Case in point . . . Sports . . . Consider that a basketball team within a school of 2,000 has the same number of players as a school of 200. Who can argue that one has a far better mathematical chance of playing the sport within the smaller school? For the student who loves basketball but may never make the NBA, the smaller school just may be the perfect place to enjoy the sport while focusing on an education.

Finally, to anonymously criticize the school’s staffing, particularly the announced locals hired because they are "POPULAR", is truly an “Are you kidding me?” moment. Then to read that an NFL player is not qualified to coach a high school team further validates the incredulous moment.

The Fiscal Year for schools nationwide begins on July 1. After that date state law mandates the publicizing of the experience and education of all teachers. To pre-criticize/pre-judge any staff member before their complete qualifications are published is nothing short of an uneducated/unfair accusation.

Jojo writes:

Oh no! You have got to be kidding. Will we now have to add a football stadium to the list of infastructures and facilities they want to build with the community center. I am sure we will now be establishing the over 40 and 50 mens football league here on Marco Island. That way they can say it is for the community.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

SUNBUM:

Ok, now you have time until July to staff the school.

The point is not if someone is not qualified to coach the point is, is he certified by the Florida State Board of Education? In addition, has the principal, yet, received his certification from the State of Florida? The degree work is not State certification.

Because someone has had experience in a field does not make him/her certified to do the job with young people. So give me a break and stop with the puffed up claims with no actual proof and post the facts that are related to running a school with public funding.

You are the one that claimed that you would have teachers of "world class" quality. So far, you almost admit, that there is no proof of that. You claimed in an earlier blog that you already had some of the teachers but they had to be accepted by the State Board of Ed. That was in February. Has the state informed you yet of their decision or was that just another delay tactic?

You are asking parents to have faith in your choices of instructors "after" they agree to send their students to your school. How ridiculous and short sighted is that?

Would you, yourself, go to a hairdresser before you saw the quality of their work? So why should parents feel any different about where they send their children to be educated for their future and college?

You obviously came from the world of sales pitches. Students and their education are much more meaningful than a sales person's promise and a smile.

You can not return a students failure to be properly educated for college acceptance with a money back guarantee as you can with a commercial product.

SunBum writes:

in response to Ocram:

IN THE BEGINNING!!!!!

There was this world class academy, which wasn't world class other than in the minds of the proponents. There were to be all of these "interested organizations" and teachers from "all over the country" seeking to take part in this endeavor. Sports were not a main focus "superior education" was.

THEN THE WATERS PARTED:
And reality crept in.

Now Jane is raving about a man who has no, yes no, secondary educational experience to be a high school "Football Coach". A principal with no secondary school experience, who got his doctorate degree work from a little known internet college with 6 weeks of classroom work and the balance on the internet. Teachers who we do not know from where they come or what in the way of certifications they have or do the leader's of the Academy which to tell us these vital facts. (This is where the real education is going to come from).
A trailer park setting for who knows how many years and an enrollment with people who now think that their children are going to get a good education by having a former NFL player who, he himself said that he was not accepted to teach in the Naples Schools. And to top it off a fundraiser for the Academy being held in Miami because having it on Marco may be too close to the truth for those sponsoring it.

Parents, it is your child's future and college acceptance you are playing Russian Roulette with.

In a year or two it may be too late to think this through and make up for your uninformed "choice".

Mr. Pellant has served as a Charter School Specialist at the state level for the Minnesota Department of Education. He was part of the committee that approved the charter schools and monitored them for compliance. He also served as Vice President for an education consulting company which wrote applications for new charter schools and provided educational services for existing charter schools.

Mr. Pellant was a fiscal monitor for the Minnesota Department of Education (MDE) in the Division of School Finance and was the investigator for misuse of funds in the state of Minnesota. Mr. Pellant has additionally worked as a principal, professional curriculum writer, Director of Special Education, Director of Special Services, Coordinator of Special Education, Vice President of an education consulting company, and teacher.

Education:
Ed. D. (Candidate) St. Mary’s University 2011 Education Leadership
M. Ed. Middle Tennessee State Univ. 2002- Summa Cum Laude Education Leadership
B.S. Moorhead State University 1995 Special Education

Minnesota licensures as a Superintendent, Principal, Director of Special Education, Coach, and Teacher.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

SunBum

All of those degrees mean nothing in the State of Florida until he gets CERTIFIED as an Secondary Administrator in the State of Florida.

Does either the principal or the coach have state certification yet? If not what will they have to do in order to get it.

Pleae, stop with the smoke and mirrors and please answer those questions.

Marianne,

Your return comment shows your lack of being able to answer a question with an honest answer which relates to the original question.

From your response you are not a women because the first thing you would make sure before going to a hairdresser is that they could do a good job with your hair and are properly licensed to do it. I don't think you have to insult hairdressers like you did teachers, either.

And once again I forgot. You got called out by SUNBUM to confuse and insult with your lack of an honest answer, as usual.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

SUNBUM,

Also if you care to answer the above questions how come you are, yourself, calling the principal Mr. when you posted a news article stating that he received his doctorate?

I do see that you now state that he is a Doctoral candidate and not the Doctor as was erroneously stated in the newspaper. Why was there no follow up article made available to the public so stating that fact?

SkeeterBeater writes:

I can see Them now, Kickin Turtles in the sand thru the Pine Trees. Maybe some PT Drills thru the mud in the dead Mangrove Trees , scaling the Wall at Horrs Island . Run Forest,Run !!

SunBum writes:

in response to Ocram:

SUNBUM,

Also if you care to answer the above questions how come you are, yourself, calling the principal Mr. when you posted a news article stating that he received his doctorate?

I do see that you now state that he is a Doctoral candidate and not the Doctor as was erroneously stated in the newspaper. Why was there no follow up article made available to the public so stating that fact?

The post was a copy and paste from the Academy website when Mr. Pellant was hired. Dr. Pellant was awarded his degree just before his last visit here ergo the difference in titles.

The fundraiser is to be held in Miami because there is statewide support for educating our children.

Ocram, there are only so many hours in a day. I would really like to address your every word, but working for the kids comes first.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

SunBum,

Yes, I know there are not enough hours in the day, but you succeeded once again to not answer the original questions. Which were:

1. Is Dr. Pallent certified by the State of Florida to be a principal? If not what will he have to do in order to become certified? The same question relates to the coach.

2. Will the teachers from the Middle School have the necessary certifications in order to teach high school in general, advanced placement, etc., or will they themselves have to return to school in order to get this certification while they are teaching?

Please do not play the holier than thou card when responding to questions that should be answered before kids are enrolled or anyone donates any funds for your Academy.

The parents of those children who you claim to be concerned about deserve nothing less than straight answers.

RayPray writes:

"Ed. D. (Candidate)"

Arguably, everyone living on Marco (excepting for our numerous pets) could be termed a potential PH.D.

"Ocram, there are only so many hours in a day."

Correct.

However, if you yourself could string together enough hours to total 4 weekends, you too could earn a DOCTORATE from world-renowned St. Mary University of MN!

Here is a challenge to you.

Data concerning Mike Vanderjagt's sports career is readily available online.

Why not do the same for Principal Pellant?

Publish an online link to his recent or almost PhD thesis.

This way we could all peruse this document to determine whether Principal Pelland has truly ascended from Mister to Doctor distinc5tion!

freedomofspeech1 writes:

DEAR PARENTS:
RUUUUUUUUUN FOR THE HILLS!
THIS WILL BE NOTHING CLOSE TO "WORLD CLASS"
AS A MATTER OF FACT IT WILL BE "LOW CLASS".
TRAILER PARK EDUCATION WITH MEDIOCRE TEACHERS AND COACHES. ITS JUST NOT WORTH IT. DONT BE SO LAZY, SEND YOUR KIDS TO A REAL SCHOOL OFF THE ISLAND!

u2cane writes:

Wow, is it April 1st? This is so hilarious I don't know where to begin.

1st, Didn't know they played 7 man football in Florida. That is about the number of kids they will be able to attract.

2nd, Oh wait, by football you mean the world interpretation of football, which in the US is soccer. That would make sense that a kicker could coach that. I mean its not like he reads defenses or does anything during an american football game that will help him coach american football, but soccer I can see.

3rd, Where are they going to play the games, are there any wild animals that we need to root out? Maybe they will clear the Panther preserve in the everglades for their field.

4th, Haha, I am still trying to stop laughing and rolling around the floor because this is sooooo funny.

5th, What is their mascot going to be, a human clubbing baby seals? Maybe a pharmaceutical rep? How about someone doing the Heimlich because their coach chokes in big games?

u2cane writes:

Oh, and to the people that said, but he played in the NFL, so did Lawrence Taylor, Lawrence Phillips, Pac man Jones, and Lenny Dykstra (played in MLB), but I wouldn't want any of them near my kids.

RayPray writes:

in response to u2cane:

Oh, and to the people that said, but he played in the NFL, so did Lawrence Taylor, Lawrence Phillips, Pac man Jones, and Lenny Dykstra (played in MLB), but I wouldn't want any of them near my kids.

Mike Vick might be able to help out with the school animal population problems....

u2cane writes:

and I hear JaMarcus Russell is looking for work as a motivational and strength/conditioning coach.

RayPray writes:

NFL certain does impress with character building!

Should you need to contact Lawrence Taylor, that won't be hard, since he has now earned the distinction of being a Registered Sex Offender in New York:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03...

mymax101 writes:

This is ridiculous. Vandy's is a dump of a restaurant - it's filthy and the food is terrible. Now this guy who couldn't make it in the NFL is touting himself as a coach? Please. Chalk another one up for this farse of an "Academy". Any parent who signs his/her child up for this nightmare is a fool.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Give Vanderjagt a break. It is not him or his background that important here. It is the false promises made by the Academy to the people of Marco relating to the "Academic Quality" of the people they are hiring. They appear to be hiring whoever they can and twisting that fact to appear to be something it is not.

From the beginning and still going on, smoke and mirrors.

RayPray writes:

Poll::

According to Gunga Jane:

For a mere $250--, in Miami: "You are cordially invited to join us for a luncheon with guest speakers Michelle Rhee and Former Governor Jeb Bush."

So do you believe:

1. Jeb and Michelle show up in the flesh and schmooze with diners.

2. Jeb and Michelle send video greetings projected on a large screen.

3. Jeb and Michelle send short hortatory telegrams.

4. Jeb and Michelle fail to show but Fedex the DOCTOR Pellant personal DNA samples.

5. Two Jeb and Michelle impersonators show up and entertain the participants with risque educational humor.

u2cane writes:

Ray, I believe that I have better things I can do with $250!

Wildcat writes:

in response to mymax101:

This is ridiculous. Vandy's is a dump of a restaurant - it's filthy and the food is terrible. Now this guy who couldn't make it in the NFL is touting himself as a coach? Please. Chalk another one up for this farse of an "Academy". Any parent who signs his/her child up for this nightmare is a fool.

You're ignorance is astounding!

Couldn't make it in the NFL? The average NFL career is less than 4 years - he played 9 years in the NFL (plus 5 years in the CFL). He retired as the most accurate kicker in NFL history...and the most accurate kicker in CFL history, as well.

And Vandy's has the best pizza on the island. I've been in the kitchen there, and it is very clean.

Max, you're batting 1.000 - you're completely wrong about everything. It looks like you're the fool.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Wildcat,

Again, what is the big deal that the guy was a football player have to do with the real reason the academy was supposed to be started for? The object of the Academy was to provide an outstanding academic education.

This sort of stuff or fluff with a NFL place kicker being a coach would provide icing on a cake and that is if he has the minimal certification to do the job.

But, honestly, there is no cake. All they have is a couple of tid bits thrown here and there.

You still have no information on what is truly important in order for the kids to be prepared for college, the quality, experience and credentials of the teachers. You do not know if there are teachers, for all subject levels yet hired.

The Academy has persistantly refused to answer the question all parents should be asking. "Where is the beef" and not the pastries?

Wildcat writes:

in response to Ocram:

Wildcat,

Again, what is the big deal that the guy was a football player have to do with the real reason the academy was supposed to be started for? The object of the Academy was to provide an outstanding academic education.

This sort of stuff or fluff with a NFL place kicker being a coach would provide icing on a cake and that is if he has the minimal certification to do the job.

But, honestly, there is no cake. All they have is a couple of tid bits thrown here and there.

You still have no information on what is truly important in order for the kids to be prepared for college, the quality, experience and credentials of the teachers. You do not know if there are teachers, for all subject levels yet hired.

The Academy has persistantly refused to answer the question all parents should be asking. "Where is the beef" and not the pastries?

As your name indicates, you've got everything backwards (as usual). In case you didn't notice, this article is about Mike Vanderjagt being named head coach of the football team. You going off on your monotonous rant yet again is misplaced here.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to Wildcat:

As your name indicates, you've got everything backwards (as usual). In case you didn't notice, this article is about Mike Vanderjagt being named head coach of the football team. You going off on your monotonous rant yet again is misplaced here.

Wildcat,

Sorry, to offend your sensitivities,
but the article is about the Academy hiring this person. Hired as a head of the "what" football team?

Obviously people with your personal vision are now more interested in football than a true academic education.

My, how that tone has changed since last June when athletics was not important and quality education was.

Is_It_True_Partially_True_Or_Not_True (Inactive) writes:

in response to Wildcat:

As your name indicates, you've got everything backwards (as usual). In case you didn't notice, this article is about Mike Vanderjagt being named head coach of the football team. You going off on your monotonous rant yet again is misplaced here.

Ocram, you keep posting your questions and what you get are people doing much talk around the question and not giving honest answers.

Maybe after time other people will ask why no answer given answers what you ask. Wildcat did what he could to put you down but was wrong about article. He is backward one. Thanks for keeping peoples eyes open.

Ivan

20_Days writes:

SUNBUM, WILDCAT, MARCOISLANDWOMEN,

It is childish and smacks of deviousness that the three of you, if in fact you are three and not one, have ganged up on a person, OCRAM, who asks legitimate questions only to get misdirected answers or slurs as responses.

The questions asked are ones that all parents, including myself, should be told without having to ask first. It appears that the MIA is hiding the facts and information requested by OCRAM and others. One of the reasons my kids are not signed for the MIA is because no one has given me a straight and honest answer yet.

If you would answer the questions clearly and without rancor you would have fewer people feeling that you are being willfully evasive and certainly less than forthcoming.

I, and others, have appreciated the questions that OCRAM asks because it appears that this person is thinking about all the ramifications. The repeated nastiness and inconsistencies of your responses detracts from the MIA and it's mission and makes it appear that you, yourselves, do not know the answers to the questions. If you do not have the information, find out!! You are the ones running this show--you should be open to honest, probing queries.

Brisla writes:

If you don't like the Academy, don't send your kids there. Why do you care if others choose to go there?

Wildcat writes:

I'm not running the show, and I don't have answers to ocraM's questions. ocraM should look somewhere besides here if answers are truly desired. Perhaps a call to the Academy's staff would get more information than posting here.

20_Days writes:

Well, First, I have made calls, been at meetings, went to the store front--and have yet to receive a substantiated answer or even a complete answer to my questions. So, if you happen to be a parent who has questions and does not go on "word" only, you are made into a persona non grata by the leaders of the MIA.

Second, tax dollars will be used for this school and as such the tax payers of this island have a right to get answers to the legitimate questions that are asked--especially on a site where the
information is being both posted and discussed. If you don't want to answer them, they you should
not be posting your articles on here.

Third, I wonder how many of you out there know while we are being told that we have a choice, if it is not the choice of the MIA, we have been
"chastised" for not going along with them.

And fourth, I, and other parents, want to be certain that the people "teaching" our children
are actually certified. licensed and qualified as educators in the state of Florida (which I believe is something that OCRAM has asked on several occasions). It is very nice that there are people willing to donate their time to the students and impart some of their expertise, but...they are not qualified to be educators. Not very helpful when it comes time to take college entrance exams. We need honest, complete answers in writing, not unfulfilled promises and
pumped-up dreams. Certainly slurs and nonsensical retorts do not do anything to promote the MIA in a good light.

And just like you I have a right to post here as much as I like.

20_Days writes:

Ms. Herzili....

You just proved my point...slurs no answers.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Ms. Mariaklabautermannherzili,

Sorry, if it is my "choice" to post the way I do. It is my "choice" to ask questions. So Sorry it is not your choice.

As far a your comment about a political small group, you do not know that for a fact because your group does not need to have a referendum to get what they want. The same referendum you called for under the name of Klabautermann and bragged about being the first to call for it on many occassions, But, once you saw that you would lose and lose big you changed your tune. Maybe you could keep your own facts straight. BTW on another post you are now saying negative comments about Republicans, there too, it was recently that you yourself said you were a Republican not a Democrat like your other self Klabautermann.
You can not even able to remember which side of the bed you sleep on and you expect others to believe your senseless rampages.

waterday writes:

Congrats to Mike! my son knows him from football, has never been coached by him but likes him. In fact, my son is so comfortable with Mr. Vanderjagt that he has stopped by with his friends on occasion at his house, to visit with him. Mike takes the time to talk to him and all the kids. He is great for this new school, and will help make it succeed by offering a great program to the brave children that enroll. It is alway hard for new schools and it will likely be the same getting a football program off and running. I have full confidence in the group of individuals associated with the Marco Academy and this school will compete with both public and private. Marco Charter Middle is so A+ and Marco Academy High school will also be A+. Congrats and Good Luck to this new football program and Mr. Vanderjagt

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