Marco Island crime numbers increase, police chief warns about prevention

Marco Island may be perceived as a town like Andy Griffith’s TV hometown of Mayberry — a safe place where the cops probably don’t have many crimes to solve. However, Marco Island is one of the few local communities reporting an increase in crime.

Other local agencies, including Naples, Fort Myers, Cape Coral and Lee County have reported drops in crime when comparing 2010 to 2009.

“The M in Marco Island and Mayberry are the only similarity between the two communities,” said Marco Island Police Chief Thom Carr in a prepared statement Monday.

Reported thefts from vehicles saw the highest increase -- more than doubling from the previous year. This highly preventable crime indicates that people may be feeling a little too safe as most were from unlocked cars, officials said.

There were 28 reported thefts from vehicles in 2010 compared to 13 in 2009.

The increasing trend has continued thus far in 2011, Carr said.

Violent crime also skyrocketed statistically on Marco Island, increasing 80 percent. It’s important to note, however, that in terms of total violent crimes there were only 10 in 2009 and 18 in 2010 — relatively low in comparison to the 655 violent crimes and property crimes reported in the city of Naples in 2010.

Violent crimes and property crimes in Naples fell by more than 15 percent in 2010, reaching their lowest level in the city in at least a dozen years, the Naples Police Department reported earlier this month.

The Lee County Sheriff’s Office recently reported that its reported violent crimes and property crimes were down 10 percent in 2010. The Fort Myers and Cape Coral police departments have also reported decreases in 2010, 6.9 percent and 11 percent respectively.

There are a small number of people responsible for a significantly large number of crimes on Marco Island, Carr said, citing the recent arrest of four men, who broke into 20 cars and committed 49 crimes in a very short period of time in January.

While domestic violence and child abuse in the home are virtually impossible for law enforcement to prevent, Carr said, other crimes such as street prostitution can be prevented.

Violent crimes, including rape, robbery and aggravated assault, which nearly doubled, are often caused by the common themes of greed, alcohol, extremely poor judgment and unacceptable anti-social behavior, but these do not lend themselves, like street-level drug trafficking, to prevention or eradication methods employed by law enforcement, Carr said.

Although many crimes can’t be prevented by the police, the Marco Island Police Department has a higher than average rate of solving such crimes. Solved crimes were up in 2010 to 34 percent compared to 31.5 percent in 2009.

Carr described these as “phenomenally high crime clearance rates.

“We would rather prevent crime than solve it,” he added.

Carr reminds people to remove keys from unattended vehicles; lock vehicles and homes; keep purses and valuables attended rather than left in shopping carts, and recognize that “e-mails indicating you have won $8.5 million in Rhodesian lottery are criminal scams designed to separate you from your money.”

Another prevention tactic is to call 911 immediately when you witness something suspicious, Carr said.

“We often hear ‘I didn’t want to bother you with something so trivial.’ Nothing is trivial and you are not bothering us,” he said.

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blogsmog writes:

chief needs to look no further than our own neighborhood teens. i caught a couple 12 yr old local punks going thru may boat a couple weeks ago, they were taking everything that wasnt tied down. i put the fear of god in these kids so i didnt call the police. just wonder if the chief should make the rounds at the local schools and talk to these kids.

RayPray writes:

"Violent crimes..., which nearly doubled, are often caused by...greed, alcohol, extremely poor judgment and unacceptable anti-social behavior, but these do not lend themselves to prevention or eradication methods employed by law enforcement, Carr said."

It would be news to SERIOUS police forces like the NYPD that violent crime can't be prevented, since this is exactly what has been done in many big cities over the last few decades.

Maybe if our overpaid and overstuffed toy cops would shift focus from the endless otiose exercises of community relations and, instead of spending the evenings lurking around a small variety of certain bars and restaurants,would undertake comprehensive neighborhood patrolling, dangerous crime could be checked here too.

whinney7 writes:

when you cover up some crime the crime rate goes down .Sleep in you sleepy little island village where nothing goes on.Right! if you report the crimes that are happening the proper way you'll find out you have a major problem

johnnycakes writes:

I'm very happy we live in such a safe place. So let me think back to when I was a junior reporter ... 28 reported thefts from vehicles - four guys caught in one fell swoop for 20 of them in January, leaving eight for the rest of the year.... that must mean .... less than one a month??? And 18 violent crimes. Hmmm. What's the story here? Lower crime rate than Vatican City? Police Chief protecting his budget? Move to Marco now it's the safest city in the country? But maybe not "crime skyrocketing."

August8 writes:

"Do Not"
Give these numbers any serious consideration, these crimes are so infinate in the scheme of things that you would be better off watching paint dry.
This Chief and his guys have it covered, make no mistake about it.You are safer on Marco than the Vatican, these guys are underated so give them the credit they deserve. This PD is an improved deal under this man's watch, I know !!!

chinkley writes:

Great job Marco Island Police Department....especially since you don't have the support of the City Management. thanks

ba10da69 writes:

Wow a new overpaid drunk Cheif and more crime.Marco Police Officers are paid alot more than Naples and CCSO officers and we have a RISE IN CRIME.....Get off your azzes and stop hanging out at the bars and do your job that we are overpaying you for.

ba10da69 writes:

in response to August8:

"Do Not"
Give these numbers any serious consideration, these crimes are so infinate in the scheme of things that you would be better off watching paint dry.
This Chief and his guys have it covered, make no mistake about it.You are safer on Marco than the Vatican, these guys are underated so give them the credit they deserve. This PD is an improved deal under this man's watch, I know !!!

Ohh welcome back Mrs.Carr

Cwazyman writes:

Marianne Herzili, you finally said something that I can come to terms with, minus the high school.

whinney7 writes:

I would like you to explain why you made a statement not to long ago that Marco Island was a real safe plce to live. Now after a increase in crime you tell the citizen of Marco Island the truth. You and the city manager have lied to Marco taxpayers for years about this and are finally coming clean to protect your jobs.Violent crimes incease 80%.and don't compare yorself to Naple to justify your dept.It'sa joke to say you solve 34% of your crime it should be 70% or better. I SUGGESTthat you release your yearly stats on your officer and let the public know who was doing all the work to solve crimes in MARCO.The only officer that did solve or prevent crime you fired RIGHT.i say this with fact.LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.All the rest of the dept are retired cop who don't give a da--. collect there pay, for sitting in the office or doing nothing.,you as the superior should do something . No its your good boy act of covering up things you dont't want residents to know. I think a solution to this is to hire the young officer (Derrig) BACK AND GET RID OF THE GARBAGE that only are there to collect a paycheck. Or let cco take over and save alot of money for the taxpayers.

MrBreeze writes:

Now the Chief states in this article that we are not like "Mayberry" I can remember when the first time I came on the island in 1994 I pulled my car over on Collier to get a map and a patrol car was right behind me.

Later years when coming to my home late at night I was followed as I had an out of state plate and was followed home. I felt this was great, Police that are aware, doing their job policing the community.

I bought a home on Marco Island for the safe factor. If the Chief cannot provide this to the citizens then it is time for a new Chief or Sherrif on Marco Island.

Also part of the problem is the type of people that we are attracting to the island. Lets build some more "cheap motels" and allow "weekly rentals" which I call "flophouse" rentals.

I keep saying the island is changing. The people in charge are allowing it change and not for the better. Time for the Chief to step up or get out, we the taxpayer are his boss and we expect and deserve "Mayberry" but not with a "Barney Fife" police dept.

dc5799 writes:

Why don't we start something new. How about foot patrol officers? Then they can observe more and get some exercise.

RayPray writes:

in response to dc5799:

Why don't we start something new. How about foot patrol officers? Then they can observe more and get some exercise.

I don't know about foot patrolling. This is more appropriate to real urban environments, where the cops can peak in the windows and rattle the doorknobs.....

There used to be bike patrolling officers here. That was a good idea.

When the CCSO patrolled the island, I would see Sheriff cars patrolling in front of my house on a regular basis. They would stop and question people who didn't look like they belonged in the neighborhood. Once I was braced by a deputy while I was doing repair work on my own dock. Such evidently must have appeared highly unusual.

After the switch to Marco Finest (or Fattest?), never observed such routine patrolling again.

Sometimes, especially off-season, I think I could drop dead in the street in front of my house and nobody would notice for hours.

It wasn't like that when the CCSO was on the job.

MIPD is obviously a sweet birth for cop wannabe youngsters and snozzy veterans from elsewhere in most regards already effectively retired....

August8 writes:

"Hey bartender69"

See you know the bars well, expert on drunks are ya, you sound drunk now, cynical guy.

RayPray writes:

in response to August8:

"Hey bartender69"

See you know the bars well, expert on drunks are ya, you sound drunk now, cynical guy.

August8, evidently one more member of the Carr extended clan....

ba10da69 writes:

Yes I often pass behind the Porkeys on marco and golden gate and happen to see an unmarked marco pd vehicle.....hmmm

JohninMarco writes:

Here is an idea. Seeing that Monday thru Friday the city employees a chief, capt, and Lt. who do no police work at all, except send memos to each other. Get their butts on the street fighting crime. Considering that between them they make over 500k in salary and benefits. Further ask the chief how many law suites the pd has against it due to his management skills.

MIslander writes:

This topic is so frustrating, its mind boggling. We have already established that the police budget INCREASED from $3.9 million in 2009 to $4.4 million in 2010. In a recession and time of struggling, the budget increased. Now, we come to find out that even though we threw more money at the police, crime increased.

We have also established that Marco Island pays for sheriff protection in ADDITION to the $4.4 million we pay for the MIPD.

It is time for us to save the $4+ million annually and go back to the Collier County Sheriff's Department. Petition the city manager and council.

RayPray writes:

"BRAVO!!!!! My opinion since years. "

That is a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This sensible opinion was Klaubertman.

You steal Klaubert... good idea and claim it as your own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrsT writes:

Look at the names of those arrested in "Police Beat" and see if you notice a pattern...

ajm3s writes:

Is this the beginning of the PR campaign to justify the bloated budget for police protection on this island?

I find it amazing that in a small town that I spent most of my adult life in New England, has a budget of 2.3MM for basically the same number of households with the same number of staff.

Marco Island is a city that has no problem justifying bloated budgets. When I listen to the arguments posed by the Fire Chief and Police Chief with the stats, I actually hear the same talking points of an insurance executive justifying higher premiums to insure our health or is it safety?

It is all a shell game, they show the higher number of incidences, to justify more services, to protect us. And round and round we go, where we stop nobody knows, until, you have an another adjoining community Fire Dept complaining of mutual aid calls that are "turnarounds" as from the Isle of Capri.

The City of Marco Island is spending over 4MM for police officers and administration to secure our safety and fight crime. And more for fire, basically, for a seasonal resort island with 15,000 full time residents.

Bear in mind, we are also paying for county sheriffs as well and more.

I ask who is stealing from whom? Is this an example of white collar crime?

And we still need 100% mutual aid from Isles of Capri which has one fire company.

God help us all because we do need aid, but not from the Fire or Police but from those empowered to cut expenses and review services rendered.

marcofriend writes:

in response to MIslander:

This topic is so frustrating, its mind boggling. We have already established that the police budget INCREASED from $3.9 million in 2009 to $4.4 million in 2010. In a recession and time of struggling, the budget increased. Now, we come to find out that even though we threw more money at the police, crime increased.

We have also established that Marco Island pays for sheriff protection in ADDITION to the $4.4 million we pay for the MIPD.

It is time for us to save the $4+ million annually and go back to the Collier County Sheriff's Department. Petition the city manager and council.

Let's add to this that the Police Pension Fund is underfunded by $4,000,000. When started in 2005 it was underfunded by $1,700,000 with our managers throwing out an expected "growth" rate of 8 percent per year (have your funds grown that much in the last 5 years?), and in 5 years has grown to a negative 4 million dollars. At some point we will all get the bill for this as well as the inflated budget that MI Police have. These pension numbers were shared at City Council Meeting last Monday in case anyone wants to verify.

MrBreeze writes:

Time to cut our loss and revert back to the Sheriff. Set up a substation for the Sheriff in the current Marco PD station.

Get more people involved in "Community Policing" and step up enforcment will lower crime.

If not stopped this city will go broke and then look to the taxpayers for the bailout. They call that a "special assessement" for your property tax either added on to the yearly bill or possible a one time payment.

The Fire Dept should revert back to the county and share duties with the Isle of Capri thus needing less manpower and equipment. How many fires do we have on Marco Island? Take EMS and privitaze it with fees charged to non-residents and none to residents. I would bet most EMS runs now are for visitors or tourists to the area.

Its called cut costs. The Police and Fire Chief's would fight this all the way as they are enjoying paradise with a big check. Who would not want that gig.

RayPray writes:

"The Fire Dept should revert back to the county and share duties with the Isle of Capri thus needing less manpower and equipment. How many fires do we have on Marco Island?"

>>> Zero in ten years!

>>> But if we got rid of the Fire Department, who would we have to strut around at all the school kid & weekend feel-good community outreach hoohahs?

"When you consider how little per property police services costs it throws a different light on it."

>>> The 'different light' is the ugly glare of wasted expense and principle....

MIslander writes:

Islandeye- respectfully, no one is trying to make personal attacks here. The issue at hand is the mismanagement of and over spending on the Marco police department.

Your statement that the MIPD has significant support from the residents of this island may be true. It was definitely true 10 years ago. But now, as you can see on this forum, support is dwindling. In this economic time, I'm not trying to be a spend thrift, I'm trying to be logical and adhere to common sense. We are paying way too much for police protection, it is not necessary.

We need to realize this overspending and snap it before not only we go back to the sheriff's office, but there is no city of Marco Island.

This topic has enough controversy surrounding it, that I truly believe a discussion, review, and eventually a vote is necessary.

RayPray writes:

"Taxes would be lower if we did not pave the roads, install street lights, sell the parks etc etc."

>>> red herring

"Quality of life is very important and to give up things that make Marco Island the wonderful place it is to live just to lower taxes does not make sense."

How ungentlemanly to lift these objections right from your pal Nancy Pelosi without giving her any credit!

>>> Things that make Marco Island the wonderful place it is to live?

For instance?

--Self-dealing porked-up Police Dept?
--Fire Dept whose major function is community relations?
--City Council worthy of the Land of Oz?
--City Hall full of snoozy double dippers and genial fake-degreed back slappers?

ajm3s writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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Islandeye, you hit on an example of waste by raising the issue that the Fire and Police were split for purely political purposes.

That goes right to the core of what plagues this island. The Fire and Police are very adept at public relations to support their bloated budgets. And the Fire Chief is really glib in front of council until you probe as in the water truck request. He really just wanted more equipment and more personnel, even though he originally stated it was an interim solution to fire hydrants.

This type of advocating is not in the interest of the folks for an efficient and lean operation.

And his cozy relationship with the union is again beyond my comprehension. But then again, when he asks for more the council and city have been accommodating in times past.

But for some perspective, go to many coastal resort towns in New England with seasonal variation of population, you see temporary and permanent safety personnel. Why in Marco does it become a permanent only situation is beyond my comprehension.

We know they are well compensated, some have even traveled as far away as Miami to work here.

And then there is the fear mongering that I have heard so often used in front of Council to obtain more monies etc.

Was this island in a severely understaffed and extremely unsafe environment just ten years ago with regard to safety?

Oh I am waiting for the re-installation of the 200K camera at the bridge entrance to the city, that was purchased years ago. How's is that going? One of many monies lost!

ajm3s writes:

in response to RayPray:

"Taxes would be lower if we did not pave the roads, install street lights, sell the parks etc etc."

>>> red herring

"Quality of life is very important and to give up things that make Marco Island the wonderful place it is to live just to lower taxes does not make sense."

How ungentlemanly to lift these objections right from your pal Nancy Pelosi without giving her any credit!

>>> Things that make Marco Island the wonderful place it is to live?

For instance?

--Self-dealing porked-up Police Dept?
--Fire Dept whose major function is community relations?
--City Council worthy of the Land of Oz?
--City Hall full of snoozy double dippers and genial fake-degreed back slappers?

I agree but I cannot provide panache. However, I will add that Public Works budget is a fraction of the safety budget.

Did you notice that the Public Works department does not have a night ride program for citizens as does the police department. Or use of a ladder truck to raise the flag at a Sunday celebration for the Mullet festival.

That PR stuff is starting to wear thin with this citizen. But apparently, the Council is always proclaiming that we should go out with them to see what they face.

But members of the Council never made such a comment about a Public Works employee. I believe it is because they do not have pressed uniforms, and may be a wee bit soiled after a day's work.

On Marco Island, it revolves around image, and some are just impressed.

It is not my intent to be critical, but the pendulum of public opinion has swung to the extreme adoration of the safety personnel on this island. While on the Isle of Capri the Fire Chief has to set up a meeting with the City Manager to proclaim the waste of mutual aid calls to Marco Island.

On Marco Island, the Fire more so then the Police are sacred cows.

God help us all!

ajm3s writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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I agree but when I see sacred cows it is very difficult to control costs, because sacred cows have been given a privileged position. And that begins the demise of cost cutting because there are now departments in this city that have while others have not.

And that is a cancer that effectively diminishes the capacity to eliminate waste and fairly review operations.

It is apparent to me that certain Council members, ie. Recker, Gibson and Waldack cannot make decisions to reduce costs. In fact, Waldack openly admits he represents the city employees and Gibson will not go against the Fire Chief, as evidence by their voting record. Recker waffles.

Was I biased in my review?

waverunner writes:

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ajm3s writes:

UPDATE (from the MIH meeting0

Re: Jolley Bridge Camera

Per Mr. Carr, the camera is still in his possession and it cost only 15K. So what is one to do when we look back on this story.

http://www.marconews.com/news/2007/ju...

Do we applaud him for saving us (not spending the remaining budgeted, $110K or actually wasting 15K for a camera that is inoperable as intended? In my book, 15K was real money and it is sitting in a box somewhere.

Well thank god the question was asked, because now we can all sleep at night.

So I guess the original requested budget of 200K, trimmed to 125K was perhaps only a line item value. And we got a 15K actual loss. And we abandoned the project.

Again, thanks for clearing that up. But why do I still feel like our tax monies are wasted, time and time again? Or is it just not up to our standards?

Again, I apologize for being critical but I hate waste. And I just do not understand the decisions and lack of commitment by those at the helm to be effective and efficient.

Is it too much to ask why the project was not completed? There are only two land route exits and entrances to the island. Kinda efficient way to monitor an island. Or is a patrol officer with a cruiser at the base of the bridge more effective? Or perhaps a crossing guard?

waverunner writes:

in response to MarcoIslandWoman:

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You talk of insults? Look at your own postings then take your medication.

ajm3s writes:

Islandeye:

I was hoping I could find the appropriation in 2006/2007, to confirm if the monies were actually appropriated. But I am still learning how to search for stuff like this.

The Chief said alot of stuff at the MI Homeowners meeting, that I believe was quite interesting. Like the disparity between number of incidences in 1999 vs 2010, the increase was multi-fold and he did not explain the difference. I suspect it may be related to politics and managing numbers.

I also noticed that 55 of the 120+ latest incidence reporting period were "business checks". What constitutes a "business check", are we checking to see if the doors are locked? And then to move on to say Naples has more officers with less incidences on a given period when compared to MI. I could go on but he will just claim I am a malcontent.

Of which I am, but the numbers are interesting to say the least, and when they compare numbers to Naples, it is the equivalent of comparing the demands on safety personnel of a downtown area vs suburb area. I believe Naples City proper has a high concentration of businesses that service high traffic flow, both pedestrian and vehicular, which results in the numbers reported. Which again, begs the question, what is deemed an "incident". I believe the definition in 1999 was not the same as today, which may account for the much higher numbers today. As well as the steady monthly numbers throughout the year.

Naples has much higher flow than Marco Island because Naples serves as a commercial/retail center for much of the outlying areas, East Naples, North Naples, etc. It is more a function of density and traffic, and less residence population. That is why there are more officers etc. of which I believe Naples is cutting back, (I could be wrong on this one). Also, the make-up of tax revenue of Naples vs MI is different. Naples does not rely as much on ad-volorem revenue if memory serves me properly.

But our public officials love to make the comparison when the hand picked stats support their claim of under staffing etc.

I believe we just need to drill baby drill, that is drill down on the numbers to reveal its basis. Because land size and population metrics are not sufficient to base comparisons. If I have to probe, it is more the makeup of those numbers. There are too many factors to rely on simple population and land size values to determine the efficiency of operations.

All I know is we had County Sheriffs, then Marco Island safety officers that were cross trained (fire and police), then separate departments and now told this island has more people than years ago. Really. A multi-fold increase? Really? A major increase of crime and/or property loss?

In fact, there are more vacant lots, and abandoned properties than 2000. How's that for a population surge since 1999.
Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ajm3s writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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I have not lived here as long as some, who provide more depth (i.e. history), but from my perspective when a newly organized city had a safety division that was then broken up into separate division, I suspect it was due to a power struggle. Typically, situations in which some do not wish to do certain duties. This would be exacerbated if you had cross trained fire and police operations.

So we now have police and fire as separate entities.

On a similar vain, here is an example in just reading the story in the Marco Sun about Isle of Capri's concern of high turnarounds when responding to mutual aid calls from Marco Island.

I will go out on a limb and suggest that the Fire Chief of Isle of Capri is not impressed with MI Fire Chief, Mr. Murphy. It is that obvious to me observing from outside the box. That is why Isle of Capri needed to go to MI Town Manager. Otherwise, the chiefs would have figured it out themselves as professionals.

I do believe Fire Department has more political clout than the Police Department on this island based on posturing, but that is pure conjecture on my part.

I am not against operating and having a police or fire presence, but can we be honest and not pretend our safety services are stretched out to capacity that impacts the safety of this island. And then to bring "facts and figures" with comparisons that confound me and/or stretch the imagination.

I believe you and I are in agreement, but if not I am simply looking for bloggers like yourself and others to bring in information that may not be obvious to the citizens and ask why or why not. As well as the occasional cynic with vivid prose.

Because based on recent articles and/or lack of some in the Eagle, it is surely raising my concerns on several fronts.

JohninMarco writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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Want to save taxpayers money, it is simple. Reire both the Fire and Police chief and hire a Director of Public Safety. Right now neither chief runs the day to day operation of their own depts. Both chiefs do not want to report to the city manager. This end two problems quickly!

ajm3s writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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To be honest, I never really saw anything wrong at first until,

1. Mr. Murphy made the claim that gravel driveways pose a safety hazard to safety personnel when transporting a gurney, and then created a demonstration for the public.
2. Made claim he needed a water truck and staff of three additional firefighters for support as an interim solution to a fire hydrant issue. Then admitted to Mr. Batte at a council meeting that if the city had the fire hydrants installed, Chief Murphy would still make the request.
3. The comments to the press in the Marco Sun Times regarding Isle of Capri request to eliminate 100% mutual aid call to Marco Island given a greater than 50% turnaround in which no action is required. I always thought the community with only one company was the one that typically required mutual aid; not the other way around.

This is just a small list of items I consider to be of questionable rationale given the make up of this island. And I thought I had heard it all in a firefighting community of a much larger and diverse city.

If I had my way he should be asked to resign, the fact that he has not assures me that lack of leadership and/or incompetence has its tentacles in others areas of city management and/or Council representation.

His policies and actions, I believe actually waste and belittle our safety response capability.

But I know his troops love him, he represents the union,which is another issue that I find amazing. However, I suspect he is not revered by his peers in adjoining districts.

All in all, he is a political animal to justify such conduct in my view. And he should not be, I expect professional leadership, not political posturing.

I only hope, Mr. Carr does not look for guidance from Mr. Murphy, but if he laments he is understaffed, it is the first lesson plan from Mr. Murphy's Safety 101 class: strike fear and then "rescue" the citizens with personnel and equipment requests.

I like my police and fire to just quietly do their jobs, especially when called upon in an emergency situation.

ajm3s writes:

in response to JohninMarco:

Want to save taxpayers money, it is simple. Reire both the Fire and Police chief and hire a Director of Public Safety. Right now neither chief runs the day to day operation of their own depts. Both chiefs do not want to report to the city manager. This end two problems quickly!

Excellent idea, but that requires leadership, which I believe we may be lacking at this juncture.

I hope Mr. Murphy or Ms. Litzan is not running the city, because it is starting to look that way. Was that the reason, Dr. Riviere wanted Ms. Litzan by his side when he rearranged the seating arrangements at Council meetings when he took over the position. In fact, was not Mr. Murphy recommended as interim City Manager before Dr. Riviere, by some on Council.

Just thinking out loud again. Could be a bad thing? Not thinking out loud, but the city being run by Mr. Murphy and Ms. Litzan.

Can someone explain to me what the hell is going on? We need to fill in the blanks, it's too confusing.

I only ask for the betterment of this island, there are too many good folks that work for the city.

Clueless on Marco Island.

August8 writes:

"Islandeye"
How do you feel when you walk out on the steets of the community, safe or threatened, comfortable or proud, discusted or revitalized, now look at the silly little numbers and make a call. If you see this in any other way but good, you have no brains at at all, I think your bank account does all your thinkin, perhaps the old home land would be better???

RayPray writes:

in response to August8:

"Islandeye"
How do you feel when you walk out on the steets of the community, safe or threatened, comfortable or proud, discusted or revitalized, now look at the silly little numbers and make a call. If you see this in any other way but good, you have no brains at at all, I think your bank account does all your thinkin, perhaps the old home land would be better???

"now look at the silly little numbers and make a call."

"If you see this in any other way but good, you have no brains at at all"

"I think your bank account does all your thinkin, perhaps the old home land would be better???"

>>> Please what language is this in?

August8 writes:

Your bank account ??? Means you are cheap, your home land, where you are from, If you see this as anything but good, go back, fairly clear language, uh??. Supporter of both departments, then you would know that these numbers are very meaningless in the big scheme of things?

RayPray writes:

in response to August8:

Your bank account ??? Means you are cheap, your home land, where you are from, If you see this as anything but good, go back, fairly clear language, uh??. Supporter of both departments, then you would know that these numbers are very meaningless in the big scheme of things?

"If you see this as anything but good, go back"

"Supporter of both departments, then you would know that these numbers are very meaningless in the big scheme of things?"

POLL:

This blogger is:

a) French
b) Japanese
c) Psychotic

Please vote!!

ba10da69 writes:

in response to RayPray:

"If you see this as anything but good, go back"

"Supporter of both departments, then you would know that these numbers are very meaningless in the big scheme of things?"

POLL:

This blogger is:

a) French
b) Japanese
c) Psychotic

Please vote!!

d)Liz Carr

whinney7 writes:

Carr does not look at guidence why should he when he's running the show. Well see how pretty he looks when law suits come out. The city will have no money to pay these worthless people and taxpayers will be better off.By the way no one is above the law. There are people watching you.

August8 writes:

"OK-OK-OK"
I'am back, I will try and speak English, OK?
Speaking of only the Police Dept, Yes, I am a supporter, very much so. This Chief manages the department and the very infinate crime problems very well considering the manner that he must operate. Kids grow up, begin to get pimples and hair in places that they never had, and begin to act out in unpredictable ways, all communities suffer with that issue, other than that, and a few local folks that insist on drinking to much and running around in their cars, you really don't have to much.
Law suits, if you have a police department, they are going to happen, everyone knows the cops are always wrong and lawyers love it, yall understand that,right.
So, as a native Floridian, I would say support your police and you will seldom not be proud, live on Marco and baske in the glory of a fundamentally crime free city.
Oh Yea Brother's !!!!
Oh, and Islandeye should not be so naughty and his blogs would not blow-up!!!

August8 writes:

"Ok Islandeye"

We are friends now, that's reasonable. I would say though, if you think the department is to fat, go yourself and investigate, do not let the day to day blog and opinions convience you of that. Personally, I am not sure, there is always something that can go, but you must be fair and good to the employee's and the staff, I think the majority give it their all. Ya know, even policing the island fuss bugets takes a toll on folks, and most of all do not make to much of these crime numbers, trust me, they mean nothing in this envirorment.

August8 writes:

Islandeye,
I think we all are disolusioned with politicians, especially the ones with a D after their name??

RayPray writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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Thanx, I needed a laugh!

The MIPD is an organization completely superfluous to the security of our community.

It exist solely to provide cozy sinecures to both cop wannabes who would never make it in a real police force --legends in their own minds -- and double and triple dippers from up North who are already long psychologically retired, and often running dubious secondary businesses on the side.

RayPray writes:

in response to August8:

Islandeye,
I think we all are disolusioned with politicians, especially the ones with a D after their name??

Really naive!

We are rules by the Government Party. It has two wings. The Democrats are honest about their desire to control every aspect of our lives. The establishment Republicans are just disingenuous about this desire.

ajm3s writes:

in response to RayPray:

Really naive!

We are rules by the Government Party. It has two wings. The Democrats are honest about their desire to control every aspect of our lives. The establishment Republicans are just disingenuous about this desire.

Excellent!!!!!

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