Same school, new spot – Marco Island Academy to open in former Baptist church school location

— The Marco Island Academy is on the move – literally. The new charter high school, set to open for its first school year this August, has covered an enormous amount of ground in the scant year since the organizers held their first public meeting. But now the school, slated to open in August for its first school year, has another new location.

The first class of Marco Island Academy (MIA) students will begin classes in facilities at the First Baptist Family Church at 1450 Winterberry Drive. The classrooms were previously occupied by the Winterberry Christian Academy, which ceased operations at the end of the just-completed school year.

“We made the decision about three weeks ago,” said MIA chairman Jane Watt. “To complete our campus on San Marco, we’d be paying overtime. When we found out the cost, I started looking at other options.”

When first proposed, the school was going to be housed on the grounds of the Marco YMCA. A year ago, the school’s promoters announced a new location at Tract K, in the Tigertail area. With that property tied up in disputes about compatibility, eagle nests, and availability, the group announced in February they would open this year in a temporary facility on 5.8 acres off San Marco Road.

“We didn’t have enough buffer room” on the work needed to ready the site for the beginning of the school year, said Watt. “I needed a firm guarantee from the construction manager we could open, and he couldn’t give a 100 percent guarantee.”

First Baptist senior pastor Tim Neptune said he personally welcomed the new use of the 6,000 square foot space at the church, but didn’t want to speak for the entire congregation.

“We try to stay neutral on everything” from septic tanks on up, he said. “Jane Watt called us and asked to meet to discussing using our facility. I think it’s a great thing.

“The church voted Sunday night to move forward. The lease has not yet been finalized, but everything seems to be proceeding smoothly.”

MIA school counselor Deboray Eby is already working out of the new space.

“This is a beautiful facility,” she said. “This will be great for the kids. It’s very nice to know where we’re going to be. I can’t wait to start working with these kids.”

“It is wonderful that at Winterberry, it’s already set up as a school,” said Watt. “We’ll just move in our science lab equipment, and everything is ready to go.”

Currently, MIA has approximately 70 to 75 students enrolled for the upcoming year, and at the Winterberry space, they can accommodate a maximum of 100, said Watt.

“Since this was already a school, we know how many are permitted,” she said, urging interested students and their parents to sign up as soon as possible to guarantee a slot for this year. “We’re trying to be good neighbors.”

Watt said she expected MIA to stay at Winterberry for the entire school year, but to be at the San Marco location next year.

“The facility at First Baptist can only accommodate 100 students, so we can’t stay there more than one year,” as the school is projected to grow to 150 to 200 students the next year, she said.

Watt was reached by phone in Miami, where MIA is holding a fundraising event headlined by former Florida Governor Jeb Bush and former District of Columbia schools chancellor Michelle Rhee.

The first day of school for students – ever – at the new Marco Island Academy will be Aug. 22.

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u2cane writes:

Well if my kid had ADD they would probably benefit from this "academy" and its multiple sites that change as the wind blows.

captnjimbo writes:

Too bad there are so many baby steps but as a stop gap this is a good move...a dead facility gets "resurected", it eases the start up and buys some time even if it limits the enrollment for a while. I like the determination of this Watt woman.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

This whole project has been nothing more than puffed up promises and claims in order for people who wanted a private school and did not wish to pay for it. Believe what you want, I will believe what I have seen an am seeing.

Maybe 70 students from what was supposed to be as many as 250 what else was/is over-exagerated?

freedomofspeech1 writes:

Moving along as expected....they say they have 70-75 kids enrolled....wait until the first day when half of those enroll at Lely...It is common knowledge that many of the 70 enrolled in BOTH and have now decided to attend Lely.
I would say dont order those trailers for next year bcause you definately will not need them...your numbers will more look like what the prior First Baptist Academy had...A HANDFULL!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Ms. Herzili-Klabautermann

What does my spelling have to do with the facts of my being polite and making a spelling error. Did you wish for me to say outright telling of mistruths? Thank you, MarcoIslandWomen for correcting me.

Where is the "World Class" school"? Few if any certified teachers, a principal with 6 weeks in class and remainder on the internet acquired degree???

Where are the 62 teacher applicants flying in from "all over the country"? Where is the "Done Deal". Where is the "We are the only City" in Florida without a high school of its own claim? Where are all the volunteers and organizations that were "claimed" to back this project, who or which in fact did not back this project?

All exaggerations (yes, I spelled it correctly, this time) or outright mis-represantions, right from the beginning.

To be more to the point where are the 125 students from each grade level coming from Marco Island that were available and which almost 3/4 chose not to take advantage of this waste of good people's time and efforts.
I guess their parents made the "choice" of not believing what was being claimed.

If you can't prove the facts attack the messanger!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Whoops..misrepresentations, messenger.....give me a poor grade in spelling.

ed34145 writes:

Seems like very poor planning ability at the top level....and, what about all those tortoises relocated...and they are supposed to be school focused on the environment???
This doesn't speak well of the administration at all.

MarcoTrojan writes:

This is truly laughable... such poor management has come to holding classes in the Baptist Church (Biology will be particularly awkward...). Also 70 to 75 kids enrolled? Like freedom said, some if not most of those students will opt to not go to the academy with its poor planning and unstable start... For the sake of college opportunity for Marco kids, I hope people decide not to get sucked into this madness.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to MarcoTrojan:

This is truly laughable... such poor management has come to holding classes in the Baptist Church (Biology will be particularly awkward...). Also 70 to 75 kids enrolled? Like freedom said, some if not most of those students will opt to not go to the academy with its poor planning and unstable start... For the sake of college opportunity for Marco kids, I hope people decide not to get sucked into this madness.

Sometimes when you do not, really, know what you are doing, reality hits you hard. Just think of all the good energies that could have gone into helping make Lely better for everyone.

It isn't too late!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

“The facility at First Baptist can only accommodate 100 students, so we can’t stay there more than one year,” as the school is projected to grow to 150 to 200 students the next year, she (JANE WATT) said.

Does this mean that the property on San Marco is out of the picture after moving the tortoises from their home? Why was that statement made if the trailers are going to be put up as previously planned? Do I hear bugle playing in the background?

By what verifiable accounting methods is Jane using to once again state that the school is projected to grow to 150 to 200 students next year. I guess it will be "all those parents from the north who will be moving here to get their children educated". Kool Aid, anyone?

Northerner writes:

"(Biology will be particularly awkward...)". too funny MarcoTrojan. The truth of it is however,there will be no bio, physics, chemistry,geology,anatomy & physiology, AP classes and probably not even a lab. They will be lucky to have a basic earth/space science course. Academic rigor of HS courses is an important factor in the college admission process. Admin officers see a HS course schedule as a blueprint of of one's education; a solid foundation of learning that one can build on in college. Parents would be doing their children a huge disservice by sending them to MIA.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Northerner,

Didn't you know that a few guest speakers and classes held by people who have little to no experience in education is going to make up for all of that? After all this is what has been posted as a "World Class Education". Since Jane said it, it must be true.

liberator100 writes:

Uwe is correcting someone's spelling! Now I have seen and heard everything! By the way Uwe, it is not "he is a bad example"; it is "he is a good example". Where did you buy your diploma?

Fossil writes:

Christians being Christian. Our community is strong.

u2cane writes:

in response to MarcoIslandWoman:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

happyhorowitz34145 writes:

"This decision was made three weeks ago", and was kept pretty hush hush.
"Watt had to be reached by phone in Miami" who is on a mini vacation courtesy of MIA!
Watt, MIA.......Missing in Action!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

This Miami Fund raiser for the Academy has one thinking? Why would a fund raiser for a charter school here on Marco Island be held in Miami?

1. To try to make sure that both Bush and Rhee would not be in contact with what is really going on here on the island regarding the lack of real community support for this "brain child".

2. That the fund raiser is not only for the Marco Academy as one has been made to believe but for Florida Charter Schools in general. Could have been just another bit of "misinformation" by the proponents, once again.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to happyhorowitz34145:

"This decision was made three weeks ago", and was kept pretty hush hush.
"Watt had to be reached by phone in Miami" who is on a mini vacation courtesy of MIA!
Watt, MIA.......Missing in Action!

Decision three weeks ago? Could that have been delayed to get enrollees who were not aware of this change of venue?

Are public tax dollars going to be paying for a second site that will not be utilized anytime soon or ever for that matter?

Tigertail writes:

Finally the MIA is going to a location that is appropriate. Since they are abandoning the site on San Marco Road, will they being cleaning up all the trees they killed, and restore the site to the way it was before the site prep?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to Tigertail:

Finally the MIA is going to a location that is appropriate. Since they are abandoning the site on San Marco Road, will they being cleaning up all the trees they killed, and restore the site to the way it was before the site prep?

Let me see???.....Only when they call in the "World Class" environmentalists to advise them, will we get an answer to your question. Or maybe you should stop by the office for the Academy, as I have been told on several occassions since they do not wish to "answer" questions on this blog.

What office do you ask? The one at Jane's Condo, of course.

u2cane writes:

in response to Tigertail:

Finally the MIA is going to a location that is appropriate. Since they are abandoning the site on San Marco Road, will they being cleaning up all the trees they killed, and restore the site to the way it was before the site prep?

Read the article again, this is a temporary move. They will still be trying to build, but couldn't get a commitment to be open by August when Jane's daughter is supposed to start high school.

RayPray writes:

"That the fund raiser is not only for the Marco Academy as one has been made to believe but for Florida Charter Schools in general."

Indeed!

According to Gunga Jane:

For a $250--, in Miami: "You are cordially invited to join us for a luncheon with guest speakers Michelle Rhee and Former Governor Jeb Bush."

POLL:

So do you believe:

1. Jeb and Michelle do show up in the flesh hug Gunga Jane & schmooze with diners.

2. Jeb and Michelle send hearty video greetings projected on a large screen.

3. Jeb and Michelle send abbreviated congratulatory telegram to Gunga Jane.

4. Jeb and Michelle fail to show, but Fedex to educational leadership PhD Pellant personal DNA samples.

5. A pair of South Beach Jeb and Michelle impersonators show up to regale the diners with off-color educational humor.

bmac2056 writes:

Many of us who are concerned about wildlife on Marco Island have been monitoring this situation closely. It's not supposed to be easy and fast to get permits to destroy gopher tortoise habitat and relocate gopher tortoises, so a lot about this project has seemed suspicious. A good journalist could probably uncover at least incompetence and perhaps illegality as well. MIA has not set a good example in this matter. You can read more and see photos of the site in its present state here:

http://ecomarco.blogspot.com/2011/06/...

and here:
http://ecomarco.blogspot.com/2011/06/...

At the same site, you'll find a lot of information about gopher tortoises and other Marco Island wildlife.
http://ecomarco.blogspot.com/

We should all appreciate the wisdom of Marco Eagle Sanctuary Foundation (http://marcoeaglesanctuaryfoundation.com) in securing land to protect eagles before this kind of havoc destroyed their nesting habitat. More and more of us have to come together to advocate for and protect all our natural treasures - eagles, gopher tortoises, burrowing owls, native songbirds, and more. Otherwise, this depressing story will be repeated again and again.

SunBum writes:

in response to Northerner:

"(Biology will be particularly awkward...)". too funny MarcoTrojan. The truth of it is however,there will be no bio, physics, chemistry,geology,anatomy & physiology, AP classes and probably not even a lab. They will be lucky to have a basic earth/space science course. Academic rigor of HS courses is an important factor in the college admission process. Admin officers see a HS course schedule as a blueprint of of one's education; a solid foundation of learning that one can build on in college. Parents would be doing their children a huge disservice by sending them to MIA.

Perhaps one would be wise to investigate the facts prior to expressing an opinion. The fact is the AICE curriculum has 19 pages of requirements for science alone. These requirements are on schedule to be met for Biology, Biology Honors and Chemistry classes.

As for other academics . . . It is obvious that those who are decrying the academics have not done their homework. Small class sizes, two math classes (one being Liberal Arts Math), two English classes (the additional being a literature class), and an offering of various Honors classes assure a rigorous academic curriculum with a low teacher/student ratio. The fact is the school on which the Academy is basing its two math and two English classes per student has the highest math and English scores in its District and is among the highest in the state. Colleges will definitely see this academic emphasis as a solid foundation of learning.

Having attended a private school with an average of 13 students per class, I can attest to the incredible education one gets when the class size affords an opportunity for the teacher to go over every single problem done by every single student every single day. Class size is undeniably a determining factor in education.

Perhaps an equally important plus for the Academy's students is the 8:30 start time. Research consistantly validates teens who are allowed to sleep later perform better in school.

And for families . . . The closer the school is to a community, the greater the family's involvement. Parents will be able to attend a teacher conference before school or at lunch time and a soccer game after work when it is 5 minutes away.

If you believe that the AICE curriculum which allows students to earn 45 college credits prior to HS graduation when fully implemented, offering two English and two math classes per student, class sizes of around 15-20 students, an extra two hours of sleep per night and a school within 5 minutes of home/work is not providing a solid foundation for learning then that is your opinion. To say it is a disservice however is a gross overstatement for there are inarguably students who will excel at the MI Academy.

If you have children you have a choice. That is the benefit of the MI Academy. If you do not have children you need to allow those who do an opportunity to make their own decision regarding their own children without misguided and demeaning judgements. We are, afterall, all doing the best we can for our children.

In case you cannot tell, I would never presume to tell you what is best for your child. Consequently, I truly resent being told I am doing my child a disservice when I have done my homework and know better.

SunBum writes:

in response to u2cane:

Read the article again, this is a temporary move. They will still be trying to build, but couldn't get a commitment to be open by August when Jane's daughter is supposed to start high school.

Jane's daughter is now in 6th grade.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

SunBum,
Maybe I should have been more polite and said you say a great deal but have nothing to actually prove for all you have to say.

I guess that there were 230 students out of your projected 300 from Marco and Naples who made the "Choice" not to attend the MIA. That is a researched fact. (Based upon 2 grade levels) and the proponents earliest projections made in public 1 year ago.

Lafarge writes:

SunBum,

Please do not insult any of us with any more of your grandiose claims. Time has told us that very little that has been proposed by the Academy has actually become reality. You have not only wasted your time but have wasted the time of those who felt your opinions had a basis in fact.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Dear Blogger under the name of SunBum,

It has been easy for you to toss the word "Choice" around when it applies to you and your proponent friends. When others made their choices for whatever it was your people have denounced them as "ready to die old people", "child haters" and most recently nothing more than "thieves" never allowed to make the choice to what they wanted in the first place. Now you are asking those same people to allow you to make your "choice" and let it go at that because "you" did your homework and nobody else did.

I think if you really did your homework regarding your neighbors and what their choices are and were you would not have been forced to come down to where you and your group presently are and that is a fact. In my opinion you mis-read the power of honesty.

u2cane writes:

in response to SunBum:

Perhaps one would be wise to investigate the facts prior to expressing an opinion. The fact is the AICE curriculum has 19 pages of requirements for science alone. These requirements are on schedule to be met for Biology, Biology Honors and Chemistry classes.

As for other academics . . . It is obvious that those who are decrying the academics have not done their homework. Small class sizes, two math classes (one being Liberal Arts Math), two English classes (the additional being a literature class), and an offering of various Honors classes assure a rigorous academic curriculum with a low teacher/student ratio. The fact is the school on which the Academy is basing its two math and two English classes per student has the highest math and English scores in its District and is among the highest in the state. Colleges will definitely see this academic emphasis as a solid foundation of learning.

Having attended a private school with an average of 13 students per class, I can attest to the incredible education one gets when the class size affords an opportunity for the teacher to go over every single problem done by every single student every single day. Class size is undeniably a determining factor in education.

Perhaps an equally important plus for the Academy's students is the 8:30 start time. Research consistantly validates teens who are allowed to sleep later perform better in school.

And for families . . . The closer the school is to a community, the greater the family's involvement. Parents will be able to attend a teacher conference before school or at lunch time and a soccer game after work when it is 5 minutes away.

If you believe that the AICE curriculum which allows students to earn 45 college credits prior to HS graduation when fully implemented, offering two English and two math classes per student, class sizes of around 15-20 students, an extra two hours of sleep per night and a school within 5 minutes of home/work is not providing a solid foundation for learning then that is your opinion. To say it is a disservice however is a gross overstatement for there are inarguably students who will excel at the MI Academy.

If you have children you have a choice. That is the benefit of the MI Academy. If you do not have children you need to allow those who do an opportunity to make their own decision regarding their own children without misguided and demeaning judgements. We are, afterall, all doing the best we can for our children.

In case you cannot tell, I would never presume to tell you what is best for your child. Consequently, I truly resent being told I am doing my child a disservice when I have done my homework and know better.

Class size is nice, but it depends on who is leading the class. If you have all the opportunity to talk to a teacher who isn't very good, what does it matter?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Did you hear that one of the courses will be taught by SunBum. It is called alchemy 101, spinning cotton into silk and just think without silk worms.

Northerner writes:

SumBum,
What a pretentious load of _____!You want facts, here's a few from directly the MIA website. "POSSIBLE Student Course selections MIGHT include:

1. English I Honors 1. English II Honors
2. World Lit 2. Contemporary Lit
3. Algebra II Honors 3. Pre-Calc
4. Liberal Arts Math 4. Liberal Arts Math
5. Biology I Honors 5. Chemistry I Honors
6. World History Honors 6. American History Honors
7. HOPE 7. Foreign Language
8. Elective 8. Elective
9th 10th
1. English I 1. English II
2. Algebra I 2. Geometry or Algebra I
3. Earth/Space Science 3. Biology I
4. HOPE 4. American History
5. World History 5. Foreign Language
6. Liberal Arts Math 6. Business Own/Marketing
7. Business Own/Marketing 7. Elective
8. Elective"

Really...a school that "possibly might" have courses. And as far as I can see on the website, the teaching staff consists of PE instructor, soc studies teacher, art instructor and a spanish teacher. I guess it's POSSIBLE they MIGHT get math, english and science teachers.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

The sad reality is that there are good parents on this Island who believe in that world of "possible" this and "possible" that, want the best for their kids because that is what they have been led to believe and are really going to get nothing more than inexperience, lack of certificated instructors and unfounded promises.

All they would have to do is look at the record of proclamations and promises from the last year and count how many of those have actually come to pass.

freedomofspeech1 writes:

in response to Northerner:

SumBum,
What a pretentious load of _____!You want facts, here's a few from directly the MIA website. "POSSIBLE Student Course selections MIGHT include:

1. English I Honors 1. English II Honors
2. World Lit 2. Contemporary Lit
3. Algebra II Honors 3. Pre-Calc
4. Liberal Arts Math 4. Liberal Arts Math
5. Biology I Honors 5. Chemistry I Honors
6. World History Honors 6. American History Honors
7. HOPE 7. Foreign Language
8. Elective 8. Elective
9th 10th
1. English I 1. English II
2. Algebra I 2. Geometry or Algebra I
3. Earth/Space Science 3. Biology I
4. HOPE 4. American History
5. World History 5. Foreign Language
6. Liberal Arts Math 6. Business Own/Marketing
7. Business Own/Marketing 7. Elective
8. Elective"

Really...a school that "possibly might" have courses. And as far as I can see on the website, the teaching staff consists of PE instructor, soc studies teacher, art instructor and a spanish teacher. I guess it's POSSIBLE they MIGHT get math, english and science teachers.

Truth is with 70 kids between 2 grades....thats approx 35 kids in a GRADE....Do you really think they can offer all of those classes??? There will be 1 class in each area and I hope the ONE SIZE FITS ALL theory works for everyone...1 math one english....will not be cost effective to offer any more....still not too late to go to a REAL school!

Lafarge writes:

What will happen to funds from the Collier County Public Schools when and if students who enroll in the Academy decide to go to Lely resulting from circumstances not to their liking? Do those funds return with those going back to Lely?

Will Lely lose both ways, giving up those monies in the first place and then having to fund the education of those returning?

Is_It_True_Partially_True_Or_Not_True (Inactive) writes:

Just returned and saw article. Is religious schooling included in this new move? Will students be exposed to religious symbols while they are being taught in classrooms, walking halls or when meeting in school auditorium? How do we justify public school education and this?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Dubrovnik,

This is allowed because there is a another loophole, according to Jane Watt, in what is allowed for charter schools. If there is, in fact, such a loophole it is likely for an inner city type situation where parents can find a safe haven for their kids away from the horrors of inner city schools. If this is what is being claimed by the Academy and the need of such a safe haven then they have gone far beyond respect and decency regarding the Naples Schools and the general public as a whole.

Brisla writes:

"Maybe after time other people will ask why no answer given answers what you ask."

Probably because it's asked here, instead of where it should be asked. If he really wanted answers, he'd call Jane Watt, but what he actually wants to do is to bloviate here.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

MarcoIslandWomen, aka Klabautermann.

From your quote above,

"As your name indicates, you've got everything backwards (as usual). In case you didn't notice, this article is about Mike Vanderjagt being named head coach of the football team. You going off on your monotonous rant yet again is misplaced here."

MarcoIslandWomen what are you talking about, this blog is about the School being held at the Baptist Church.

It seems that "once again" you are way off track with your response and what we are commenting about in the first place.

The reason Trolls such as yourself have not been answering questions is because they have run out of trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

Maybe a reminder of all of the misleading statements posted by proponents during this past year both in quotes and smoke filled answers is once again in order.

M.H. go back to your handlers such as SunBum, Imlovinit, 4MarcoIsland and the ever infamous proponent that posted that "she never, ever loses, ever!!!" comment last July. Maybe I will copy that post in its entirety for all to see.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

THIS IS A BIT OF HISTORY REGARDING THE MARCO ISLAND ACADEMY.

We can all thank Marianne Herzili for reminding me to update and present it once again.

UNOFFICIAL APPENDIX TO THE CHARTER HIGH SCHOOL APPLICATION AND THEN SOME FURTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION.
Choice---------------------------------“ Proponents "choice", others choice does not matter.
14 miles-------------------------------“A distance which is longer for my Marco's kids to travel than for Naple's kids to travel."...... No longer a stated reason for Academy....added 12/2010. 06/2011 Once again brought into posted blog by proponent.
Done Deal____uttererance by Proponent in June 2010, regarding the Academy's locking in Tract K, prior to true community outrage.
Driving age in Florida.....Not correctly stated by main proponent in presentation to City Council on Dec. 6, 2010.
Bonus----------------------------------“Insignificant information added for Fluff.”
World Class---------------------------“So over used and not verifiable.”
Volunteer------------------------------“Anyone who asks a question.”
Community Support-----------------“Any group spoken to with or without their consent to be listed as such.”
Letter of Recommendation--------- “Friends writing nice things about friends.”
Infrastructure-------------------------“What infrastructure? Those costs don’t count, anyway.”
Separation of Church and State----“Let’s pretend that Law does not exist.” Attempted to be used in 2010 got turned down. Added 06/24/11 Here we go again with the Baptist Church being used for the High School.
Added 11/15/10 We could NOT succeed the first time so lets try to get our lawyers to get around this issue.
Commandeer------------------------- “See Ms. Watt’s letter of recommendation: last line of paragraph 4. “……..overseeing the design of the school and commandeering her “army” of over 200 volunteers.”
Note: see definition of volunteer above.
255 out of 12,000---------------------“This constitutes Community Support?”
And apparantly this constitutes the Majority of the Population living on Marco in some peoples minds.
Community Vote---------------------“That which you do not want to have in case it does not go your way. Proponent also said that it was not needed because it was not "required". Who cares what other citizens want anyway?
(a.k.a. Referendum} What about it City Council?....or does public opinion not count?
Please go on to page 2

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Page 2.
Marco Island is the largest City in Florida without a High School of their own.......Proven to be another falsehood because there are at least 3 other Cities with higher populations in Florida without their own high School. Most of these cities also have a much higher student population than Marco has.
Child Hater.....(aka Old person, with one foot in the grave} People not for the High School on Marco according to one proponant blogger.
"I NEVER EVER LOSE, EVER!".....The rallying call of one very outspoken proponent posted in June 2010 on this Blog.
TRACT K.....as of 10/15/10 Rumors have it that it is back in the running, once again. Don't let the silence regarding this issue lull you into thinking that it is not being presently discussed. Now since the locals do not want it we will take it by LAWSUIT! (added 12/03/10
EAGLES.....How can we find a way to have their "lease" run out? Well that didn't work did it.
GOPHER TORTOISES. If we did our homework we would have seen that they existed in abundance on the property on San Marco prior to signing a lease with the owner of the property. Upwards of over $15,000 to relocate these tortoises and still the property looks like it may never be used. Great lesson for the location planning committee, if there was one. I do remember Jane and gang on a Jeep newspaper photograph on the site when it was acquired. Nobody thought to look around.
JUNE 16, 2011 MIAMI FUNDRAISER with former Governor Bush and Ms. Rhee. Hope the checks received were enough to pay your teachers. Why was it in Miami and not here! Too much truth to be found out.
TEACHERS FOR THE ACADEMY: Three who have Bachelor's Degrees. Two are listed as having "undergraduate
degrees" What is that? Could be an associates degree and nothing more.
PRINCIPAL of a High School. No hands on experience in the high school setting. A Ph.D. degree from a internet college and only 6 weeks of classroom time.

Finally we are now down to about 70 enrollees. What happened to the 250 - 300 for two grade levels originally claimed by the proponents. I guess thaT many others are making their choice and selecting Lely for a complete high school education.

Have a nice day Ms. Herzili, any other questions need not be answered.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Brisla,

Thank you for your suggestion for me to post facts and not "bloviate".

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Marianne Herzili,

I am sorry you had a nightmare last nite. But I think you got the title wrong. It should have been titled "Misinformation does not make a World Class School". The facts are what they are as they were stated above. You can not change the facts no matter how you try to re-write history or insult anyone. Nothing can be built on misinformation and personal insults that will stand the test of time. You see my dear Klabautermann, as shown above the vast MAJORITY of the 250 or 300 possible student's parents are not falling for the a school that was planned by a bunch of folks who may have a good idea by did everything they could to avoid the real reason that they wanted a High School on Marco, which was to keep their kids away from those students at Lely, which your A.K.A. Klabautermann called criminals in your earlier posts. You see no matter how much you attempt to misdirect the facts the truth comes out and they are what they are.

Maybe if honesty and compassion to the folks on Marco was exhibited right from the beginning, the problems at the YMCA and all of the resentment which followed would not have occurred. But now it is too late to make up for that because those 230 or so parents are smarter than you or any of those who set out to pull the wool over the eyes of those folks who you have continually insulted with you posts for the past year.

That is not a dream or a nightmare, my dear Marianne, Wildcat, Sunbum, Imlovinit, 4Marcoisland, who ever you blog under or under the direction of, it is what has been proven by facts!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Herzili,

Do you or any of your handlers, in fact, have the intelligence to realize that each and every time you post one of your insults regarding the citizens of this Country you most likely lose one or more possible enrollees for the Charter High School. Those citizens and I would like to thank you for your successful efforts.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Those old Klabautermannisms have returned.

To answer your question I can make as simple as possible. Some of us learn from our experience, what is your excuse?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

M.H.= Megalomanic Hallucinosis

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

M.H.,

I guess I meant Megalomanical Hallucinosis but since you attempted to correct me, you already were aware of your condition.

Go ask SunBum or Wildcat if she/they suggest a change in your medication. Maybe that is something she/they have a better knowledge of, it is obviously not the planning or the locating of schools.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

A lesson in reality for the MIA

250 - 300 possible enrollees in early 2010 for two grade levels.
150 - 200 possible enrollees in late 2010.
80 - 125 possible enrollees earlier this year.
82 possible enrollees month or two ago.
70 - 75 possible enrollees two weeks ago.
Now 65 - 70??? according to the Principal at the Baptist Church Meeting yesterday.

I do not need to ask any more questions when the answers are as clear as this.

MarcoDefender writes:

All great things take time. While you continue to gripe about everything you can think of, the MIA will be working smart and working hard to get an excellent program up and running. Check back in a few years when you're far more bitter and the success of the Academy is far sweeter.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

MarcoDefender,

I think I have heard all there is to hear regarding a World Class Academy or whatever it is going to be called in a few months.

I am really wondering how you plan to have 65 students being taught by 6 to 8 teachers at each grade level. That means about 14 teachers for 65 students. Less than 5 students per teacher.

Oh, I see it will be more like 10 teachers teaching classes of 6 to 7 students maybe like the old school houses of the 1800s where a teacher taught several levels at the same time.

And by the way I will never be bitter if young people get a real education from real certified, credentialed teachers and staff. Why I am truly annoyed by is the absolute waste of energies, time, money that could have been funneled into a "real" school like Lely, not someone's hallucination and personal selfishness.

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