Guest Commentary: Updates about the Marco Island Academy

The Marco Island Academy is hosting a 5K Fun Run/Walk at 8 a.m., Saturday, at the Esplanade. Registration will begin at 7:30 a.m. Families and residents of all ages are welcome to participate.

There is no cost for ages 9 and under; 10-17 is $20; 18-older is $25. Event T-shirts are $15. Coffee is being donated by Starbucks, and bagels and fruit are being donated by Winn-Dixie.

This year we have a new addition for the event. The Academy will be accepting gently used clothing donations (all sizes). All the clothing will be given to local families in need. Tax receipts will be available to people who make a donation.

Chris Pellant, the newly hired principal for the Academy, is now officially Dr. Chris Pellant. He will be attending the 5K event to join in on the fun! He will also be hosting another enrollment night at 6:30 p.m., Tuesday, at the Marco Island Charter Middle School. He will be sharing updates about the progress of the school.

The Academy has approximately 50 students signed up already and has been receiving enrollment packets on a daily basis. The enrollment will continue on a first come first serve basis until it nears capacity, at which point students will be entered into a random lottery. The first year, the maximum number of students accepted into the school is 250. The Academy is a public school that is open free to all students in the District. For enrollment information visit www.marcoislandacademy.com or call (239) 404-3622.

The Marco Island Academy is right on schedule for the August 2011 school opening. The architects are currently putting together the site plan for the school. The surveys are complete and pending permitting and approvals, the site construction will begin in May. The modulars will be added at the end of June, which will allow plenty of time to get the classrooms set up and ready for August. There are many costs associated with the start-up of the school. If anyone would like to make a tax-deductible donation, please contact Jane Watt at chair@marcoislandacademy.com, or mail your donation to Marco Island Academy, 740 N. Collier Blvd. Suite 107, Marco Island. Make checks payable to Marco Island Discovery Center. All contributions are greatly appreciated.

Over the past two years the Marco Island Academy has made many changes, but the mission has remained the same. The Academy is committed to offering your child a choice for a world-class public education. The school will feature a small school atmosphere with individualized attention and hands-on learning opportunities for your child. Above all, we will put your child’s needs above all others in order to ensure his or her success. The Academy has set high expectations for our students and our staff. We will strive to help your child reach his or her fullest potential and will not settle for anything less.

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MarcoDefender writes:

Island I - I heard that only a few will need to be moved (not removed) as only the front part of their property will be used. It seems like the permit is completed, but I don't know if that is fact yet. I'm waiting to hear back.

Nearly 50 enrolled already. It looks like parents understand the value and differentiation that this program will bring.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

“The first year, the maximum number of students accepted into the school is 250.”
What is the minimum number needed in order to fulfil State requirements in September?

“The Academy is a public school that is open free to all students in the district.”
Why are parents asked to donate funds or time if it is free?

“There are many costs associated with the start-up of the school.”
What happened to those “grants’’ that the Academy was almost sure of getting and will definitely need in order to fulfil acedemic promises already made?

“Over the past two years, the academy has made many changes, but the mission has remained the same.”
Does this mean that promises made can not be accomplished?

“The academy is committed to offering your child a choice for a world-class public education.”
Committed to offering is different that previous claims of actually getting a “World Class” education. Wouldn’t you say?

“The school will feature a small-school atmosphere with individualized attention and hands-on learning opportunities for your child.”
Why is that better than a regular school atmosphere with all the amenities available for a complete education?

“Above all, we will put your child's needs above all others in order to ensure his or her success.”
What does this mean? What does above all others mean. Who are those others that do not get the great treatment?

“The academy has set high expectations for our students and our staff. We will strive to help your child reach his or her fullest potential and will not settle for anything less.”
Setting high expectations and merely striving is quite different than actually achieving them.

Please post the credentials and experience of the teachers under STAFF on your website as you did for the Principal and Coach, or do you still consider that not important enough for potential interested folks to know about? You can not get away from full transparency.

SkeeterBeater writes:

Will there be Covered Parking for Beemers and Benz,s. Maybe a Valet and fresh Fruit in the Reception Area?
Can You Say Lily White.
WELL , We did have a Spanish House Keeper once.
Yep , Diversity that,s what the Kids are gonna get.

freedomofspeech1 writes:

in response to MarcoDefender:

Island I - I heard that only a few will need to be moved (not removed) as only the front part of their property will be used. It seems like the permit is completed, but I don't know if that is fact yet. I'm waiting to hear back.

Nearly 50 enrolled already. It looks like parents understand the value and differentiation that this program will bring.

Nearly fifty...i.e. about 30.....hardly on their way....dont expect many more enrollments. Most if not all of the kids at MICMS have already enrolled at LELY!

MarcoDefender writes:

in response to freedomofspeech1:

Nearly fifty...i.e. about 30.....hardly on their way....dont expect many more enrollments. Most if not all of the kids at MICMS have already enrolled at LELY!

Freedom - I don't think the MIA leadership would make this up, knowing all their records are subject to public review under the sunshine law. Far too risky for you opponents to latch onto.

I agree with you, Lely will get a bunch, but so will MIA, which is supported by the figures already. Remember, it's just March, and most haven't taken the step to register yet. In consideration, I bet you will see another 100+ before the first day.

Sorry it's far better than you hoped.

33yearresident writes:

MarcoDefender - MIA wouldn't make something up??? HELLO! Where have you been???

MarcoDefender writes:

in response to Ocram:

“The first year, the maximum number of students accepted into the school is 250.”
What is the minimum number needed in order to fulfil State requirements in September?

“The Academy is a public school that is open free to all students in the district.”
Why are parents asked to donate funds or time if it is free?

“There are many costs associated with the start-up of the school.”
What happened to those “grants’’ that the Academy was almost sure of getting and will definitely need in order to fulfil acedemic promises already made?

“Over the past two years, the academy has made many changes, but the mission has remained the same.”
Does this mean that promises made can not be accomplished?

“The academy is committed to offering your child a choice for a world-class public education.”
Committed to offering is different that previous claims of actually getting a “World Class” education. Wouldn’t you say?

“The school will feature a small-school atmosphere with individualized attention and hands-on learning opportunities for your child.”
Why is that better than a regular school atmosphere with all the amenities available for a complete education?

“Above all, we will put your child's needs above all others in order to ensure his or her success.”
What does this mean? What does above all others mean. Who are those others that do not get the great treatment?

“The academy has set high expectations for our students and our staff. We will strive to help your child reach his or her fullest potential and will not settle for anything less.”
Setting high expectations and merely striving is quite different than actually achieving them.

Please post the credentials and experience of the teachers under STAFF on your website as you did for the Principal and Coach, or do you still consider that not important enough for potential interested folks to know about? You can not get away from full transparency.

Oc - Your lazy and stubborn ways continue. Well, I did my homework once again, where you wouldn't. To finally address your question, the reason those others aren't posted under staff is because they have not been hired yet. From what I was told, those teachers received letters of intent to be hired. I don't know why, but that's the answer. I personally think it's because they are working with the school district on their school contract, which is not yet done but that's just my opinion. I know you won't like it (big surprise), but there's your answer.

On your other news questions, their charter application says minimum is 62 students, so they are not far off now.

Donations are important because state law does not allow tax funds to be used to pay for the building or land for a charter school. Those have to be paid for privately. This is good for taxpayers like you...and me.

Grants take a long time, at least that's what a friend told me. She works in the grant department for a county community college, so that's reliable information. With budget cuts everywhere, they are also apparently harder to get now than in the democrat hey day past.

The rest of your questions are theme based. The research shows that there are many differentiating factors to a high performance, quality education. A small class size, intimate support from peers and instructors and a hands on approach are part of that solution.

This group is really doing some great things. You might try and read up a little bit and educate yourself on the details.

MarcoDefender writes:

in response to 33yearresident:

MarcoDefender - MIA wouldn't make something up??? HELLO! Where have you been???

33 - Easy to point fingers. Go get the facts yourself, definitely don't take it at face value.

How do you people get by in life without checking your own facts?! C'mon, do your homework.

Challenge them if you must, but don't sit back and just rattle complaints. Earn it! You don't seem like those "entitled" folks who want it all with no effort or work of their own. Get to work, get the right education for yourself.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

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Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to MarcoDefender:

Oc - Your lazy and stubborn ways continue. Well, I did my homework once again, where you wouldn't. To finally address your question, the reason those others aren't posted under staff is because they have not been hired yet. From what I was told, those teachers received letters of intent to be hired. I don't know why, but that's the answer. I personally think it's because they are working with the school district on their school contract, which is not yet done but that's just my opinion. I know you won't like it (big surprise), but there's your answer.

On your other news questions, their charter application says minimum is 62 students, so they are not far off now.

Donations are important because state law does not allow tax funds to be used to pay for the building or land for a charter school. Those have to be paid for privately. This is good for taxpayers like you...and me.

Grants take a long time, at least that's what a friend told me. She works in the grant department for a county community college, so that's reliable information. With budget cuts everywhere, they are also apparently harder to get now than in the democrat hey day past.

The rest of your questions are theme based. The research shows that there are many differentiating factors to a high performance, quality education. A small class size, intimate support from peers and instructors and a hands on approach are part of that solution.

This group is really doing some great things. You might try and read up a little bit and educate yourself on the details.

Marco Defender,

From Lazy and stubborn but persistant:

Two weeks ago I asked about the teacher's hired. You did not say then that they were NOT hired. You insisted that I and others come into the store front to get the information. You could have answered my question, honestly, then. Why the charade?

So you do not have the 9 positions filled as of yet but Jane's article and presentation last month said that there were 60 teacher's who applied for 9 positions. Saying that to a crowd was just an example of not really telling all of the facts just those that would make people believe something that it was not. She could have said then, that the positions were NOT filled, but left that to the imagination of the crowd. Could these teachers chosen not be certified? Could they not have the necessary experience to teach high school, never mind advanced placement classes. Still you have not answered those vital questions and once again, beat around the bush.

How can you or Jane be so sure that what you will be offering will be "state of the art" or "world class" if you do not have the staff lined up? You do not have a place to call home, you do not even have the grants for funding to pay for your hoped for promises.

Yes, you will say anything that is possible, make people think that they are getting something, when you know for yourself that the glass is "maybe" half full.

I have "read up" up on the things people are attempting to do. Very nice that they have spent so much time committed to an experiment that has not been, even remotely, fulfilled as of yet.

The problem is parents who send their kids to the Academy should be aware that they are part of an experiment, which has little to no basis in fact, except for promises and cloaked answers to questions.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to MarcoIslandWoman:

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Marianne,

I do not need a "make believe" operation to change my life. Have fun with yourSelf!

Thank You.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

M.H.

And in your case it is not even half/a--!

skulljockey writes:

Ya know, I hope the city of Marco Island throws the biggest celebration for the school this fall when school starts. I'm so proud of the MIA leaders for putting up with the non-stop verbal diarrhea from the very few mental midgets.

WAY TO GO Marco Island Academy!!

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Way to Go?????.......Half truths, cloaking of answers, experiment with our children's education and futures?????

I think you missed Jim Jones and the lemonade.

MarcoDefender writes:

in response to Ocram:

Marco Defender,

From Lazy and stubborn but persistant:

Two weeks ago I asked about the teacher's hired. You did not say then that they were NOT hired. You insisted that I and others come into the store front to get the information. You could have answered my question, honestly, then. Why the charade?

So you do not have the 9 positions filled as of yet but Jane's article and presentation last month said that there were 60 teacher's who applied for 9 positions. Saying that to a crowd was just an example of not really telling all of the facts just those that would make people believe something that it was not. She could have said then, that the positions were NOT filled, but left that to the imagination of the crowd. Could these teachers chosen not be certified? Could they not have the necessary experience to teach high school, never mind advanced placement classes. Still you have not answered those vital questions and once again, beat around the bush.

How can you or Jane be so sure that what you will be offering will be "state of the art" or "world class" if you do not have the staff lined up? You do not have a place to call home, you do not even have the grants for funding to pay for your hoped for promises.

Yes, you will say anything that is possible, make people think that they are getting something, when you know for yourself that the glass is "maybe" half full.

I have "read up" up on the things people are attempting to do. Very nice that they have spent so much time committed to an experiment that has not been, even remotely, fulfilled as of yet.

The problem is parents who send their kids to the Academy should be aware that they are part of an experiment, which has little to no basis in fact, except for promises and cloaked answers to questions.

Oc - Wow, everything is a conspiracy with you. You fantasize far too deviously and go in a direction of deception that never even crosses the minds of the smart and dedicated people at the MIA school. Time to up the meds.

The info on the teachers is new to me as of yesterday, which is why you hadn't read it before. Another conspiracy to keep PUBLIC information from you and the rest of the public. What to do?

By definition, a charter school is an experimental school. You refer to it negatively, but that just proves how lacking you are when it comes to how well this was conceived and how well it will progress once it's up and running. You want some proof, look within, at the Charter Middle School. They are the only middle school in Collier County to make AYP. Oh yeah, it's a charter school. NONE of the regular public middle schools made it in the entire school district here. Looks to me like the experiment is working. By the way, those MICMS kids will be going to MIAHS. What kind of performance do you think they be bringing with them and putting on the scoreboard?! If that's not proof, I don't know what you expect.

I speak the truth, not "anything possible". All my information posted is verifiable. Posting anything else here is just counter productive to the importance and value of this program, so I won't let my "interested parent comments" veer from fact and truth. The few remaining oppo's would have a field day if I did.

Why don't you get on board this excellent program and be part of the solution and something great for the kids on this island. If you CHOOSE not to, please do us a favor and keep you conspiracy theories to yourself. You're not adding value, and really, that's what we need. I know it's too much to ask, but I must ask silly questions at times. I wonder where I learned such a silly skill? Thanks Oc.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

MarcoDefender

"WOW" From "World Class" to "experimental" in such a short time!
I guess you are learning to tell, almost, the whole truth.

Keep on with the "I did not know" comments. The point was that it was known by Jane for three weeks after her presentation that was misleading to say the least.

Not a conspiracy, just failure to be transparent and completely honest.

Once again you are attempting to put words in my mouth about a "conspiracy theory", are you feeling guilty lately?

Fluff can go just so far.

RayPray writes:

"I speak the truth...."

"Why don't you get on board...."

I have yet to decide whether there is some $$$ hustle angle to this Gunga Jane Marco Apartheid Academy or whether it is just some 9.4 Richter Scale detonation of ego.

Boasts of "state of the art" & "world class" when most of the people behind or hired for this scheme have minor or online degrees in trivial subject from colleges nobody ever heard of....

One must ask how such people would even recognize "world class"?

Nevertheless, since Marco is a sleepy place, especially in the Summer, the noisy collapse of this Potemkin Village scheme over the rest of the year -- doubtless with an abundance of recrimination and finger-wagging -- will afford considerable needed entertainment.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

MarcoDefender, you would not be arguing so intently if, in fact, you fealt you had the necessary enrollement, backing and financials to proceed with your "World Class" now "Experiment".

To take a quote from Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much".

RayPray writes:

in response to MarcoIslandWoman:

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In order to achieve the promised enrollment numbers, why not allow some of the prospective docents & pupils to include their pets at home (but not any pit bulls!!!) in the Academy's anticipative scholar census?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

M.H.

Talking the actual facts not supositions is not talking down it it talking the truth. But, that is something you do not understand.

"Experiment" in Education is not "World Class" anything.

captnjimbo writes:

in response to MarcoIslandWoman:

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An excellent and well reasoned post.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Captnjimbo,

Now you are agreeing with Herzili, Klabautermann. As was stated 8 months ago all that Klabautermann, aka Herzili was a hired mouthpiece for the Academy. #1 MarcoDefender calls him up to post and you agree with his trash.

The only thing so far "World Class" is the snow job the public has been getting from the three of you.

captnjimbo writes:

I am not looking for a fight, but the turtle argument is bothersome...I don't hear anyone remembering that before they showed up this Island for the most part was teaming with wildlife...which was plowed over, or chased away. This in the name of human progress. Same discussion for strip malls, hotels, community centers, other schools, churches, roads, sewage disposal, hospitals. Fortunately the animals are more adaptable, they can live almost anywhere. I was here 25 years ago and when most of us were carving out our homesteads we had little regard for inconveniemcing some turtles...kind of sounds a little sanctimonious to be used as an argument against a school.

Again...not looking for a debate...just wanted to put out a perspective that I had not seen blogged before.

MarcoCitizen writes:

This is a tiny school begging for money, offering limited educational and social opportunities, and puffing themselves up as World Class. Already the organizers are angling behind the scenes to grab taxpayer money for their missing facilities.

I feel sorry for the students whose parents unwisely signed them up to likely mediocrity and for the taxpayers who are certain to receive demands to prop this folly up.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to MarcoIslandWoman:

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M.H.

Who do you think you are kidding by jockying the definition to fit your misinformation.

New state of the art school.......Using flourescent light bulbs has nothing to do with the quality of the services provided.

Experiment in education, is another name for using the children as lab rats in order to attempt something that has not been proven.

"World Class" education was used by the proponents from the beginning.

Now you are trying to justify the newest thing out of MarcoDefenders mouth.

You are exactly correct in saying "Experiment in Education" and that is all a Charter school is. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT.

lauralbi1 writes:

Look everyone, things have been delayed due to Business Travel, but we will have a Referendum on the Ballot in 2012 for your vote. It will include a 300' Buffer between any Residential Lot and a Public or Charter High School and will include statements that a Public or Charter High School cannot use any City owned property, including Parks, for any purpose.
We expect this to pass. It is being proposed as an Amendment to the City Charter so it cannot be changed at the whim of any City Council.
There is no other reson for this Petition other than to provide the Referendum that so many citizens have been demanding.
I, for one, do not care how it turns out, but am more interested in seeing just how the majority of Marco Voters feel about this subject.
Please support getting signatures on this Petition when we finally have it released.
Ed Issler

u2cane writes:

How state of the art can you be in portables? How exactly will kids make practice at Lely, if they want to play a sport and be a well rounded individual when applying to colleges, when the hours are different and they would be in class during meetings and practices?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

M.H.
Is that "other pair of shoes" a pair that Jane expects to receive "donated" for her "gently used clothing" drive?

You have to remember, you can not use those items for your own use.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to captnjimbo:

I am not looking for a fight, but the turtle argument is bothersome...I don't hear anyone remembering that before they showed up this Island for the most part was teaming with wildlife...which was plowed over, or chased away. This in the name of human progress. Same discussion for strip malls, hotels, community centers, other schools, churches, roads, sewage disposal, hospitals. Fortunately the animals are more adaptable, they can live almost anywhere. I was here 25 years ago and when most of us were carving out our homesteads we had little regard for inconveniemcing some turtles...kind of sounds a little sanctimonious to be used as an argument against a school.

Again...not looking for a debate...just wanted to put out a perspective that I had not seen blogged before.

Captnjimbo,

"Fortunately the animals are more adaptable, they can live almost anywhere. I was here 25 years ago and when most of us were carving out our homesteads we had little regard for inconveniemcing some turtles...kind of sounds a little sanctimonious to be used as an argument against a school."

No need for a debate. It is because it is the law now. Are you "suggesting" that we break the law to satisfy your desires?

People are more adaptable than certain other species, including tortoises. Maybe you should be the one going back to your elementary school and learn a lesson or two yourself?

Jojo writes:

I would rather donate money to Obama and I can't stand Obama,than Jane Watt. Maybe you should hold your 5K run on the indoor track, wouldn't that be fun

marco97 writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

Look everyone, things have been delayed due to Business Travel, but we will have a Referendum on the Ballot in 2012 for your vote. It will include a 300' Buffer between any Residential Lot and a Public or Charter High School and will include statements that a Public or Charter High School cannot use any City owned property, including Parks, for any purpose.
We expect this to pass. It is being proposed as an Amendment to the City Charter so it cannot be changed at the whim of any City Council.
There is no other reson for this Petition other than to provide the Referendum that so many citizens have been demanding.
I, for one, do not care how it turns out, but am more interested in seeing just how the majority of Marco Voters feel about this subject.
Please support getting signatures on this Petition when we finally have it released.
Ed Issler

Issler, I don't know where you grew up but I have never heard of a community that would not allow the local schools to use the city parks, that's what there for. You are a very selfish person.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Islandeye,

You should be aware that this is what the proponents, by their comments and actions is to break or ignore the law. That usually occurs when people know they lost by other means and try to "get away" with the most they can.

Captjimbo has all but admitted to these acts and appears to be one of the proponents that not only "knows" the inner workings of the Academy but could very well be one of its educational advisors.

Quite a lesson for the kids who might be reading these blogs......The old adult saying of "do as I say, not as I do" in black and white for them to read.

Look mommy or grandma if you can be cruel to animals so can I. That is her lesson repeated by the children.

Well mommy or grandma, how do you redo your lesson plans to wiggle your way out of this one?

mymax101 writes:

The idea of this "Academy" is absurd. I said it a year ago and I'll say it again. We are asking for trouble with this school. The proponents have a goal only for personal gain and in the end this project will hit the taxpayers. There will be students bussed from all over into Marco. I don't care who the kids are, I do not want hundreds bussed into Marco from anywhere for any reason. This island has no need for a charter high school. If the rich and famous here on Marco want to spend their money to make the education experience better for their children, they should do so on the truly diverse Lely High School.

captnjimbo writes:

in response to islandeye1#236971:

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Islandeye...okay, you got the permit and then you removed the turtles to build your house. My point exactly...it was not wrong then and it is not wrong now...again, not looking for an argument, just puttting it out there.

Since we have a narrow group blogging I would like to tell another story,,,someone out there can attest to the validity. 100 years ago, a childless couple by the name of Milton and Catherine Hershey started by providing shelter to a handful of homeless boys. They started with 4. Today the Milton Hershey School provides education, which in many cases ends with college sclolarships based on achievement to almost 2,000 girls and boys from grade school to diploma. I met a man a couple of weeks ago that rehabbed a four flat near NYC 25 years ago...his last project a few years ago was a 450 Million dollar mixed use Condo, office, retail complex.

I would not dare to belittle a school that starts with 50 kids in trailers...the forward looking youngsters have a vision that many of us don't share for one reason or another. All of us know had it not been for these pioneering spirits we would still be in Europe someplace. It is in the human nature for some people to simply make things happen for the furtherment of the species. I am not ashamed, I am proud of them.

MarcoCitizen writes:

The above post is nonsense. The Marco Apartheid Academy is not about educating homeless. It hopes provide a limited educational experience as an alternative to Lely. The excuse for this is to avoid the bus trip to Naples for the students. This is one part racism and one part ego for the founders and none of this potential taxpayer grab is pioneering spirit.

RayPray writes:

"Today the Milton Hershey School provides education...."

The Hershey school lives off the dividends from Hershey Corp.

Does this mean we can soon expect to find Gunga Jane Pea-nutty Candy Bars in Publix?

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to captnjimbo:

Islandeye...okay, you got the permit and then you removed the turtles to build your house. My point exactly...it was not wrong then and it is not wrong now...again, not looking for an argument, just puttting it out there.

Since we have a narrow group blogging I would like to tell another story,,,someone out there can attest to the validity. 100 years ago, a childless couple by the name of Milton and Catherine Hershey started by providing shelter to a handful of homeless boys. They started with 4. Today the Milton Hershey School provides education, which in many cases ends with college sclolarships based on achievement to almost 2,000 girls and boys from grade school to diploma. I met a man a couple of weeks ago that rehabbed a four flat near NYC 25 years ago...his last project a few years ago was a 450 Million dollar mixed use Condo, office, retail complex.

I would not dare to belittle a school that starts with 50 kids in trailers...the forward looking youngsters have a vision that many of us don't share for one reason or another. All of us know had it not been for these pioneering spirits we would still be in Europe someplace. It is in the human nature for some people to simply make things happen for the furtherment of the species. I am not ashamed, I am proud of them.

Captjimbo,

You are picking at straws. What happened to the 250 students that were going to jump at the chance of being part of the first 2 classes? Now it is 50 kids for 10 teachers and administrators etc. Not realistic at all.

Unprovable claims were made and when bloggers questioned those claims they were called all kinds of names trying to belittle their opinions. Well the proof is in the pudding. The Academy does not have the support that it claimed to have, not even close.

You are right, about one thing from your post. The Hershey's started small and knew enough or realized that growth would take place with experience and reputation. That is something that the Academy had a chance of doing and let their eyes become too big for their stomachs and bit off much more than they could chew. Now their reputation is merely a list of unproven claims and maybe just maybe the minimum of students needed to start. That is if the CCSB allows a teacher to student ratio this large.

BTW. How do you relate the kids on Marco to homeless kids in the first place? That is one stretch of the imagination.

marco97 writes:

Some of the kids who go to school on the island are just one paycheck away from being homeless, you keep making look like the schools on Marco are full of rich kids and that just is no true.

lauralbi1 writes:

Marco97: Obviously you are biased to Marco island having a Charter High School, as is Klaubautermann. That is fine.
What is wrong with giving the citizens the right to vote on how they want their City property utilized.
I am certain that has occurred to everyone but yourself, that the proposed, expanded Mackle Park Community Center could potentially prov ide a location for the Charter High School.
A majority of the citizens may not be in favor of paying for the expansion to use it for that purpose. I know many are not in favor of the expansion at all, given thne economic conditions. But let's have a vote.
And yes, maybe you did not see the e-mails between our City Planner and Jane Watt offering Parking in Verteran's Park for an older alternative for the Temporary Charter High School.
Yes, that is an unacceptable use of Veteran's Park.
But again, it is not for you and I to decide. let the people vote. That is what is going to happen next year.
Ed Issler

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to marco97:

Some of the kids who go to school on the island are just one paycheck away from being homeless, you keep making look like the schools on Marco are full of rich kids and that just is no true.

What does some of the kids on Marco coming from homes that a near being homeless have to do with having a charter school? That was never mentioned in the original discussions only the 14 mile distance that would have to be traveled by our kids.

Ask your so called leader's why they did not know better and bit off more than they, realistically, could chew.

The "Y" could have been an excellent proving ground for their no longer World Class and "now what they call" an experiment in education.

Much time was wasted on fluff and not reality.

captnjimbo writes:

Simply the analogy that big things most times start small. Sorry I did not explain that clearly.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Captnjimbo,

In retrospect I think that there would have been a great deal more acceptance by the community had the "Y" been that starting place as originally stated by the Academy. If things were to work out there, then the next step in growth might have been a great deal easier.

But when statements of "Done Deal", "I never ever lose, ever", "almost dead residents living around Tract K", "child haters", "idiots for not reading the deed" were uttered by proponents a barrier was erected instead of a means for the community to work together to find a solution to a problem. Now that too seems doubtful.

Too bad egos stood in the way. Maybe an honest and true concern for the community would have helped instead of the I am going to get my way, or else attitude exhibited at the CCSB meetings.

1Paradiselost writes:

in response to Ocram:

Captnjimbo,

In retrospect I think that there would have been a great deal more acceptance by the community had the "Y" been that starting place as originally stated by the Academy. If things were to work out there, then the next step in growth might have been a great deal easier.

But when statements of "Done Deal", "I never ever lose, ever", "almost dead residents living around Tract K", "child haters", "idiots for not reading the deed" were uttered by proponents a barrier was erected instead of a means for the community to work together to find a solution to a problem. Now that too seems doubtful.

Too bad egos stood in the way. Maybe an honest and true concern for the community would have helped instead of the I am going to get my way, or else attitude exhibited at the CCSB meetings.

I agree! I know others that feel same way!

marco97 writes:

OC I am responding to your quote "BTW. How do you relate the kids on Marco to homeless kids in the first place? That is one stretch of the imagination." you brought it up and I was answering you.
Issler, I am not for expanding the community center at Mackle park but am against not letting the schools on the Island use the parks if they want to just like other people are allowed to.
You can't stop the school, it is coming and will be an asset to the community.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

in response to marco97:

OC I am responding to your quote "BTW. How do you relate the kids on Marco to homeless kids in the first place? That is one stretch of the imagination." you brought it up and I was answering you.
Issler, I am not for expanding the community center at Mackle park but am against not letting the schools on the Island use the parks if they want to just like other people are allowed to.
You can't stop the school, it is coming and will be an asset to the community.

Marco97.

I did not bring it up. You posted it yourself. I think you should take another look at the previous blogs.

You yourself posted the comment on some of the kids being one paycheck away from homeless and it is right on the top of this page.

Your ship is sinking and you are painting the deck chairs. Good Luck

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Marco97,
This is your post. Do you remember posting it????

March 12, 2011
12:41 p.m.
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marco97 writes:
Some of the kids who go to school on the island are just one paycheck away from being homeless, you keep making look like the schools on Marco are full of rich kids and that just is no true.
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Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Marco97,

My earlier comment was a response to your Hershey homeless kids shelter comment. Which I responded to. I will again. What does a Charter School on Marco have to do with Homeless kids in the first place?

I am sorry that their parents could not pay the bills but, there are many other people suffering the same way. Come on now who is stretching the reasons for why a Charter School is needed?

You can choose now. Blue paint or Red.

Ocram (Inactive) writes:

Islandeye,

I tried to bring out what others have been saying. If it falls on deaf ears, so be it. The truth may be that they just don't care or want to care.

It would be interesting to find out what happened at the "Y". There may be more to that story than meets the eye.

captnjimbo writes:

in response to Ocram:

Captnjimbo,

In retrospect I think that there would have been a great deal more acceptance by the community had the "Y" been that starting place as originally stated by the Academy. If things were to work out there, then the next step in growth might have been a great deal easier.

But when statements of "Done Deal", "I never ever lose, ever", "almost dead residents living around Tract K", "child haters", "idiots for not reading the deed" were uttered by proponents a barrier was erected instead of a means for the community to work together to find a solution to a problem. Now that too seems doubtful.

Too bad egos stood in the way. Maybe an honest and true concern for the community would have helped instead of the I am going to get my way, or else attitude exhibited at the CCSB meetings.

Ocram et al.
I agree with you...the Y location, center Island, near the other schools, bycicle paths and traffic patterns already in place, the synergies of facilities all made that a natural at least in the shorter term. The Track K site, originally planned seemed too good to be true, especially since the politicians have had their eye on it for other uses. Seemed to me that it was an easier solution and would have been a stunning long term solution.

I agree that the Y would have worked for more people, that the anti school rhetoric is fueled by the backyard issue and a desire to protect jobs at Lely. Perhaps you are on to something.

marco97 writes:

in response to Ocram:

Marco97,

My earlier comment was a response to your Hershey homeless kids shelter comment. Which I responded to. I will again. What does a Charter School on Marco have to do with Homeless kids in the first place?

I am sorry that their parents could not pay the bills but, there are many other people suffering the same way. Come on now who is stretching the reasons for why a Charter School is needed?

You can choose now. Blue paint or Red.

OC I did not comment on Hershey, you are confused it was Captnjimbo and it was your response to him were you said quote "BTW. How do you relate the kids on Marco to homeless kids in the first place? That is one stretch of the imagination." and I said not all of the kids on Marco are rich which your statement implied. Check it out and take your meds.

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