Romney: Nearly half 'believe they are victims'

Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks to reporters about the secretly taped video from one of his campaign fundraising events in Costa Mesa, Calif., Monday, Sept. 17, 2012. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks to reporters about the secretly taped video from one of his campaign fundraising events in Costa Mesa, Calif., Monday, Sept. 17, 2012. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — Already scrambling to steady a struggling campaign, Republican Mitt Romney confronted a new headache Monday after a video surfaced showing him telling wealthy donors that almost half of all Americans "believe they are victims" entitled to extensive government support and adding that as a candidate for the White House, "my job is not to worry about those people."

President Barack Obama's campaign quickly seized on the video, obtained by the magazine Mother Jones and made public on a day that Romney's campaign conceded it needed a change in campaign strategy to gain momentum in the presidential race.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney is shown saying in a video published by the magazine. "There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

Romney said his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Romney's campaign did not dispute the authenticity of the video, instead releasing a statement seeking to clarify his remarks. "Mitt Romney wants to help all Americans struggling in the Obama economy," spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said. "He is concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government."

About 46 percent of Americans owed no federal income tax in 2011, although many of them paid other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

Obama's campaign immediately criticized Romney, calling the statement "shocking."

"It's hard to serve as president for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation," Obama campaign manager Jim Messina said in a statement.

The remarks came at a closed-door fundraiser that Mother Jones reported occurred after Romney had clinched the GOP nomination. To protect the identity of the person who provided the remarks, Mother Jones blurred out the video and did not provide the date or location of the fundraiser. Romney formally clinched the nomination May 29 and formally accepted it last month at the Republican convention in Tampa.

Many of the Americans who owe no income tax are reprieved because basic exemptions — such as the "standard deduction" — took their taxable income below the cutoff levels. The other half rely mainly on a variety of tax breaks, such as the credit that helps offset child care costs.

These Americans range from the very poor to solidly middle-class families with jobs, homes, cars and vacations. The Tax Policy Center says "relatively few nontaxable households" have incomes exceeding $100,000; families that make between $50,000 and $100,000 often owe no income tax because of breaks for their kids and for education.

Americans who pay no federal income tax still often pay an array of other taxes. They include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare, sales taxes, property taxes and state and local taxes.

Obama faced a similar moment in the 2008 campaign, when he told donors that many Americans who are angry about their struggles "cling to their guns or religion."

Romney's running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, made reference to that remark Monday at a campaign event in Des Moines, Iowa.

"I remember that one time when he was talking to a bunch of donors in San Francisco and he said people like us, people from the Midwest like to cling to their guns and religion," Ryan said.

He went on: "And I've got to tell you this Catholic deer hunter is guilty as charged and proud to say so. That's just weird. Who says things like that? That's just strange."

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Sparky100 writes:

How dare Romney point out the Dems dirty little secret. Finally someone with the nerve to say what we already knew.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

The whole sentence was "Romney said his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

The fact is that there are 47% of the population that pay LITTLE TO NO TAXES and
these are the people he is talking about.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Since when was it written that the American way of life is collect 7 to 8 thousand dollars a month for several babies had out of wedlock, from different fathers, live in a paid for apartment, receive food stamps, which to buy beer and cigarettes with etc. These are many of the people Romney is talking about.

There are also many people who have fallen on hard times and I feel horrible for them, but many of those who will vote for Obama have made the above their way of life. Very sad but true.

WizeOlMarco writes:

Corporations and businesses take advantage of legal deductions to reduce their taxes. People take advantage of legal grants and subsidies for food and education. What's the difference? None. PS, the education system is a free training system for coprorations and businesses.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

For food and education is what the welfare system is about, but not to keep people on it from generation to generation. Come on, there is no logical reason for that. Nearly One Trillion Dollars a year for today's welfare. How much of that is going for 2nd or 3rd generation welfare recipients. The point is that these are the people who are voting for Obama not the ones who are trying hard to make something out of themselves.

1Paradiselost writes:

Hey Zookeeper.. Where do you get your facts.. OZ?

woozygirl writes:

9/9/9

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

1Paradiselost,

Maybe before you comment try this site on for size. I may in fact be short on my numbers when all that is included in our Welfare State is added up.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/88767476/Th...

1Paradiselost writes:

Your guru (the one your quoting)" Michael Tanner also said that

"Outsourcing Is Good For America".

What kind of sick person would say such a thing and call themselves an American? And why would someone agree with such a un-American comment?

You & your side have used "fear tactics" since Nixon! By your quoting some right wing radical, You only help perpetuate the current hate for Obama.

I did not vote for Bush, but he was MY president like it of not. It was Bush who tanked the economy.

BTW today is the 4 year anniversary of the bank bailout.

According to Romney my mother who is on Social Security is freeloading off America. Get this my friend she worked her tail off for 45 years so she could retire with dignity.

According to your guy she one of the 47%.

You better get used to Obama. If the Republicans don't start running middle right candidates you may never see another Republican in the White House the rest of your life!

Romney is worried about others paying taxes, So wheres his tax returns? That should be the question your asking....

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Social Security is not like Welfare, it was paid for thru our own taxes so lets stop the manuipulating the facts and admit you were wrong by say my figures came from OZ.

What Romney paid is far more than you, me or the majority of the 47% paid in total.

And I will not vote on the same side as those who see America as a free handout to make more babies in order to collect more than $60,000 a year in Welfare payments for a family of 5 when they can not decide who the father was for their offspring.

1Paradiselost writes:

You are so out of touch!

No one, but no one gets $60,000 a year on welfare. Even if she had 20 children! If you have sometime this week call the county and ask!

Two thirds of what the government pays out is paid to seniors. That is according to the federal office of management and budget. Not some right wing wacko nutjob.

Romney said "47% rely on government support" that number includes Social Security! Romney will end Social security as we know it.

I can't see my mother at 91 shopping with her voucher over the phone. Don't you read real newspapers which print facts, not FOX spin?

New poll out tonight 54% Obama 46% Romney! That's poll was taken before the hidden camera....

Just pay your taxes and enjoy your family. it's almost over.

BTW.. where are Mitts tax returns? As an American that's the question YOU should be asking. Every American should be asking that question.. Why not?

Your guy make Palin look like Einstein. That's just one reason your guys a loser.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Since you said so I am happy that you think you are correct in your own mind.

The 47% you asked for me to show had nothing to do with Romney's statement they had to do with the Trillion Dollar Welfare situation. Once again, typical Democrat rotort change the subject and justify in your own words.

I suggest you check and verify your statement regarding the $60,000 for a family of 5. It is much higher in several Notheastern states. $1400 per month per child in at least one.

Nothing more to say, since your mind is made up.

mahiman writes:

I know lots of leeches that think they're entitled to the government taking care of them! We give dirtbag scanks more welfare money everytime they have another kid. It should be the opposite! People need to learn to take care of themselves. Preach on Romney!

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Mahiman,

Somehow the Dumpocratic platform has made it a sin to be productive and successful and at the same time honoring punks, welfare cheats and socialists. What a bunch of losers.

ajm3s writes:

What needs to be said:

http://acoloneloftruth.blogspot.com/2...

There are so many Americans that have been following shiny objects placed by journalists, i.e. Romney tax records, with the belief this is one among a host of artifacts to assess the capability of someone seeking the executive branch.

Under that approach, I guess job interviews will now require one's latest tax return along with a résumé.

Really, like it matters?

1Paradiselost writes:

The information below is from the governments Social Services page (Seeing you to lazy to call)

"Cash allowance benefits for financial assistance will also be state regulated and allowances paid will also vary based on different criteria. However, an average expectation can be placed on a family of 4 receiving up to $900 for their TANF allowance".

You stated recipients received $60,000 a year or 5,000 a month. Your off by $4,100 your facts are wrong.

Question.. When are you all going to stop lying? You show you have no more brains than your party mate Palin. Can you see Cuba from your house too?

Lying your way may work when your 12 years old, but not as an adult. Let alone running for president.

Your supporting a tax cheat who brought the subject up of others not paying taxes. How do you know he's not part of the "47%"? You don't! So where are Romney's taxes?

He required Paul Ryan give him 10 years during the vetting process.

Romney is so arrogant he wants to be king.. not president. What kind of American are YOU, NOT to question any new potential leader of this country?

He lied about his taxes being paid as a resident of Massachusetts went he was really a resident of Utah. In 1999-2001 he filed no such tax returns in Massachusetts. The guys a born liar! You know what they say about birds of a feather.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08...

As an American that's the question YOU should be asking. Every American should be asking that question.. Where are Romney's returns?

Please answer the question. I answered yours. $60,000 a year. Come on will yea, your earning a new name here.... Pinocchio.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Here are some answers and they relate to women who have 2 children. Thank you for your personal attacks, only reinforces many's opinion of the uneducated or naive democrat.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/On_average_...

http://www.cato.org/research/pr-nd-st...

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/juli...

26yearsonmarco writes:

Romney’s Horse

"So - the Romneys are selfish for keeping a horse?

And employing a groom with a family to support.

And paying for feed that’s sold by someone with a family to support and transported in trucks by someone with a family to support and manufactured in a factory by people with families to support from stuff that’s grown by farmers with families to support.

And having a barn built by construction workers with families to support with materials trucked by drivers with families to support from factories with workers with families to support.

Sounds to me like that one horse has done more to put Americans to work than that horse’s butt (politically correct term) in the White House."

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Oh, I also forgot, where are the fathers of these out of wedlock moms who collect welfare. They too are collecting welfare for themselves and OF COURSE voting for OBAMA! How nice that is. Bringing up another generation of free loaders to vote Democratic.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

26years....

"Sounds to me like that one horse has done more to put Americans to work than that horse’s butt (politically correct term) in the White House."

Please accept my sincere apology for correcting the above. What you are describing above serves the purpose of getting rid of waste......The individual, presently, in the White House only creates additional waste.

26yearsonmarco writes:

in response to Our_world_according_to_zookeeper:

26years....

"Sounds to me like that one horse has done more to put Americans to work than that horse’s butt (politically correct term) in the White House."

Please accept my sincere apology for correcting the above. What you are describing above serves the purpose of getting rid of waste......The individual, presently, in the White House only creates additional waste.

......The individual, presently, in the White House only creates additional waste.
.....

That's because he is full of "waste".

26yearsonmarco writes:

Only 49 more states to go!

Hooray for Florida !

I-95 and I-75 will be jammed for the next month or so with druggies and deadbeats heading North out of Florida, because this is the first state in the union to require drug testing to receive welfare!

Hooray for Florida! In signing the new law, Republican Gov. Rick Scott said, "If Floridians want welfare, they better make sure they are drug-free."

Applicants must pay for the drug test, but are reimbursed if they test drug-free. Applicants who test positive for illicit substances, won't be eligible for the funds for a year, or until they undergo treatment. Those who fail a second time will be banned from receiving funds for three years!

Naturally, a few people are crying this is unconstitutional.

How is this unconstitutional? It's a legal requirement that every person applying for a job has to pass drug tests in order to get the job, why not those who receive welfare?

Let's get welfare back to the ones who need it, not to those who won't get a job.
I AGREE, DO YOU?

26yearsonmarco writes:

Learning from Obituaries.
It seems that every couple of days New Orleans lost one of its treasured ENTREPRENEURS;
Lets get the players straight before we go on with this.
LARMONDO "FLAIR" ALLEN
His Companion: Kawanner Armstrong
His Sons : Christian Allen
Kwan Allen
Larmondo Allen, Jr.

His Daughters: Deidra Allen
Larmenshell Allen
Lamonshea Allen
Larmomdriel Allen
Larmerja Allen
Korevell Allen
AT HIS DEATH @ AGE 25 - LARMONDO "FLAIR" ALLEN had 9 Children.
(Could Kawanner Armstrong Possibly Be The Mother Of All Of His Kids?).
His Father: Burnell Thompson
His Mother: Esther Allen
His Stepfather: Bruce Gordy
His Brothers: Burnell Thompson
Edgar Thompson
Wil Willis
Danta Edwards
Reshe Edwards
Mattnell Allen
Burnell Allen
Lester Allen
His Sisters: Shannail Craig
Lekiksha Thompson
Gwendolyn Carter
Jessica Willis
Katina Gordy
Grandparents: Delors Allen
J.C. Allen
Anna Laura Thompson
Will Thompson
So, lets see now....
His Father, Burnell Thompson , fathered his brothers Burnell, Edgar and his sister Lekiksha .
His Stepfather, Bruce Gordy, fathered his Sister Katina.
His Mother, Esther Allen, must have been unwed when she gave birth to: Larmondo, Mattnell, Burnell and Lester.
We don't know who fathered Wil Willis and Jessica Willis, or Dante and Reshe Edwards.
Lets hope sisters Shannail Craig and Gwendolyn Carter are married.
GOT THE ABOVE ALL STRAIGHT?

26yearsonmarco writes:

NOW, THE REST OF THE STORY

At the time of his death LARMONDO was 25 and had 3 sons and 6 daughters.
NINE welfare recipients collecting $950 each per month.
That equals $8,550 a month!!! Now add Food Stamps,
Free medical, Free school lunches, and on and on.
Do the math Larmondo was pulling down $102,000+ /year.
Anyone out there, sittin' on their butt while reading this email, with a net worth of zero, making A HUNDRED GRAND doing nothing?
Now, to me, Larmondo was a real Entrepreneur!
ALSO, BECAUSE OF THEIR FATHER'S DEATH, ALL OF THE KIDS WILL COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY UNTIL THEY ARE 18 YEARS OF AGE.
EVEN BETTER...IF " Larmondo’s" THIRTEEN BROTHERS & SISTERS
FOLLOWED HIS ENTREPRENEURIAL STRATEGY--THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL
$1.3 MILLION PER YEAR.
BUT WAIT...THERE'S MORE!
IF ALL THIRTEEN BROTHERS AND SISTERS CAN DUPLICATE HIS FEAT OF 9 WELFARE STRATEGISTS THAT BREEDS 117 NEW RECIPIENTS COLLECTING $100,000/YR!!...OR AN ADDITIONAL;
$11,700,000 PER YEAR & THAT'S ONE blasted FAMILY.
This level of support will require 100% the Taxes Paid by 1,000 average taxpayers.
And THIS is one of the reasons why America is BANKRUPT!
ANY QUESTIONS?

August8 writes:

in response to WizeOlMarco:

Corporations and businesses take advantage of legal deductions to reduce their taxes. People take advantage of legal grants and subsidies for food and education. What's the difference? None. PS, the education system is a free training system for coprorations and businesses.

The education system is also a bastion of liberal learning in addition to being a child care agency, ah Chicago maybe.

August8 writes:

in response to GorchFock:

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Talk about idiots, apparently you have not seen the release of the Obama epic, how he believes in wealth distribution. You will have to cut away from CNN, ABC,CBS, MSNBC in order to learn about this socialist.To bad you are under-exposed as your fundlemental understanding of the political picture and health of this country are reflecting that Obama notion.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

Yes, 26years, I do agree Welfare should be those who truly need it not the generation producing freeloaders who will vote democratic in order to perpetuate their handouts.

Thank you for substantiating what I posted above. Maybe 1Paradiselost could learn something from it.

1Paradiselost writes:

Right-Wing Lies: The welfare of Larmondo "Flair" Allen

http://www.copinthehood.com/2010/05/r...

Hey idiots another Urban Legend lie on your part! Your a bunch of losers that will never see another Republican in the White House as long as you live.

You must be great parents!

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot writes:

You guys are funny! One side has their boy currently in office continuing the past presidents acceleration of burning the country to the ground. The other side wants there boy to win the election so their side can continue burning the country to the ground. Awesome! All the while fighting over who is a freeloader and who is not. It really doesn't matter because this is just the final stage of the republic and neither party will stop it. They will just fund the same ever increasing amounts of deficit spending into different areas of the country by calling the programs by different names. Once a population realizes they can vote themselves favors from the government it's over. The politicians only care about re-election. Social security, foodstamps, whats the difference? They are both meant to help fill a short fall. Throw Grandma into the street or let her work at walmart. Same with the single mom with 5 kids. Lets take it all away and leave the government to do the things they should. Defend our nation from incursion by other nations. Keep law and order within our nation. Build infrastructure to foster economic growth. Or we can just continue down the same path we've been on. It's working so well. $17 trillion here we come! Add the Federal reserves $3 trillion balance sheet (and climbing) to that and it won't take long for the world to realize the US is not a safe investment. Yes, the FED is not part of the US government, but those are $USD backed by US treasuries, backed by you the tax payer.

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

1Paradise,

You are right, we are great parents, which, once again, has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

26yearsonmarco writes:

I recently read an article that stated that only 26 percent of our Troops fighting for us have any faith or respect for our President.

I had an opportunity to meet someone returning from their second tour in Afghanistan, and asked him if what I read was true.

He said yes, and one of the main reasons is he stopped the 3 percent annual cost of living increase in their pay.

If this isn't enough to vote Obama out of office than I don’t know what is.

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot writes:

in response to 26yearsonmarco:

I recently read an article that stated that only 26 percent of our Troops fighting for us have any faith or respect for our President.

I had an opportunity to meet someone returning from their second tour in Afghanistan, and asked him if what I read was true.

He said yes, and one of the main reasons is he stopped the 3 percent annual cost of living increase in their pay.

If this isn't enough to vote Obama out of office than I don’t know what is.

The US troop you were talking to is also part of the 47% that Romney doesn't care about.

The more I see of Romney, the more I realize what an idiot the guy is.

Should I vote for the idiot in the White House? Or the idiot that wants to occupy the White House? Decisions, Decisions.

The next 4 years are going to be a disaster! Literally!

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot writes:

Klaus,
Please stop with the Great Obama stuff! It makes me sick. The only thing that comes close to you is the masses fighting over what failed policies will fix the problems we find ourselves in.

26yearsonmarco writes:

in response to GorchFock:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Klaus,

"He brought Americas reputation back."

Might I suggest that you hold off on making s----- comments like this one at 2:09 am, and wait until the morning, and after a few cups of coffee???

giggel211 writes:

Maybe u should think a little bit about this statement from Romney. Then your discussion about welfare and who get's it and who not is not the biggest problem we have.

"If I were Iran, if I were Iran—a crazed fanatic, I'd say let's get a little fissile material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place."

Mayor_McCheese writes:

I wonder how the US troops in combat zones who are therefore exempt from paying income taxes feel about Romney's statement? If I were in combat and a guy running for president basically said he does not care about me, I might think hard about voting for him.

August8 writes:

in response to GorchFock:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

He sure did, now the whole darn place is on fire.

August8 writes:

All you leftest nuts should consider your thoughts and Ideas as crazy as they are and reduce your posts to a number of words that might encourage someone to read them.
Having said that, I am not sure to many of the folks here really care what you say, drink up gang.

1Paradiselost writes:

August8... Your a war monger lead by an idiot (Birds of a feather moron).
Send your kids off to fight, NOT mine!

ajm3s writes:

Romney had identified the wrong Americans as victims, its NOT 47%, its 100%, it is EVERY AMERICAN that can understand Mr. Obama's declaration to all Americans at the start of his presidency: "transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of my presidency".

If you want to quibble with Romney vs Obama, tax record not submitted vs socialist agenda, truth vs falsehoods, then lets review one touchstone of Mr. Obama's administration, in his own words. Then review the actual adherence to those words, words that matter.

Well folks, it not R vs D for me, its about simply getting it done, and as of this moment, especially in this climate of terrorism, America needs leadership with vision and honesty, no propaganda, say it like you see it or we may be witnessing the beginning of the enemy within.

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/15290...

August8 writes:

in response to GorchFock:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Dude, have you heard "WE HAVE A VOLUNTARY MILITARY"
Talk about no balls, you should change your post name.

26yearsonmarco writes:

Let's see what the Obamee fans can say about this:

http://www.worldnewstribune.com/2012/...

26yearsonmarco writes:

in response to GorchFock:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Klaus,

Do you agree wuth the fact Obamee stopped the 3 percent cost of living increase for our Military???

August8 writes:

in response to GorchFock:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

That's what you said, so what?

26yearsonmarco writes:

Klaus and all others Libbies.

Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan.

'I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.'

1) 'The US, UK , CANADA and AUSTRALIA will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East, and the Philippines . They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal immigrants have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are from. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.

6) The US, UK , CANADA and AUSTRALIA will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere..' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army.. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE.Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?
The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses..' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' '

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

For those who were concerned about Romney's Tax Returns, well I guess he was able to produce them a lot faster than Obama was his birth-certificate, college records, thesis etc.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/20....

And to top it off he contributed 3 million to charity as compared to what was contributed by either Obama or Biden's miniscule $1500.00

1Paradiselost writes:

Zoo...

Is your comment is about Romney's tax returns? Or about Obama's tax returns or Birth certificate or collage records or his sex life, or his driving skills...etc...

Can we hear just once from you how good Romney is without talking about Obama?

Don't have me quote Ron White. "You just can't fix s-----". Sorry can't help myself :)

BTW.. Romney produced only ONE year today, 2011. According to his return, he could have taken another 3 million in deductions.

Romney and his accounts chose not to take those outstanding deductions. The current return shows a 14% tax rate. But under federal law the Romney's have 3 years to amend those (2011) returns and take the extra deductions.

Buy doing so (And you know they will) The Romney's would be paying a 0% tax rate. This is the reason why the PAST returns are so important.

Those returns can't be amended according to federal tax law because the 3 year rule has expired.

Is he one of the 47% he talks about? As Americans we ALL have the right to know the truth!

Our_world_according_to_zookeeper (Inactive) writes:

1Paradiselost,

You asked the question I will give you the answer: According to Obamas 2008 campaign he called for Change: Change to what? More debt, more food stamps, more people actually out of work, more people looking for work, more denial that there are Islamic terrorists in the world, less respect for America etc.

When you voted for Obama in 2008 you knew NOTHING about him, for the most part you still know NOTHING about him except for his failures above. What was he a Community Organizer in a corrupt City? His wife did not respect America, in her adult life until he was nominated for president. He stood with his hands on his privates when other pledged the American flag and refused to wear a flag until he was forced to.

You are proud of that well I am not and will never be.

Make all the comebacks that you wish: Obama has been a complete failure and it is TIME FOR CHANGE. Change to a man who has more experience in his left index finger than all of Obama's cronies.

You got your tax returns you so demanded, you are not happy, now where are Obama's College Documents. Those are far more telling of a man's psyche then the tax return which showed that Romney in fact paid more in taxes then he legally had to, along with 30% to charity and those are now available to all to see. Obama is the WORST president this country has had in the last 50 years and that includes the two faced Jimmy Carter.

Yes Change is now necessary more than ever!

1Paradiselost writes:

Zoo...
You just don't get it, and never will!

Get used to Obama! He will win Florida by 3%. Our little area Naples/Marco is not a representive of the millions of voters living on the east coast of Florida.

Ryan got booed off the stage today at an AARP convention. The seniors are your base. They are turning their backs on Romney/Ryan. Don't believe me read it in a real paper tomorrow morning like the USA today, or the New York Times, or the Washington Post (Owned by your god who also owns FOX NEWS, Rupert Murdock) Who by the way is British. Americans getting news from a brit!

In Mass. Obama leads by 24% Mitts adopted home state, Or does he live in Utah or Michigan or California or the Cayman Islands... what's that tell you, he can't even win his own state?

If the party of NO would do something maybe this country could move forward. You mentioned cronies? Your cronies have blocked every bill to move the county forward.

Don't have me quote Mitch McConnell on the goals of the Republican party putting this county in a ditch.

Oh wait I forgot you think Obama makes the laws in this country, not the Senate and Congress. I'm not joking, did you ever go to school?

Let me refresh your memory. It takes three branches of government to pass laws, Congress to the Senate then to the presidents desk.

If nothing can get passed in the congress (the party of NO) It can't move on to the senate for a vote. If there is no bill for the president to sign how can you keep blaming Obama?

Laws come from the congress, not from the president of the United States! Having a Ron White moment?

I'm starting to understand what Rick Santorum said, When he told a group of conservative Republicans at the Values Voter Summit on 9-17-2012, last weekend

"That smart people will never vote for Republicans".

So, go have a drink and enjoy your family. It's going to be a long 4 years for you! Just think, you may not out live Obamas 2nd term in office. So just relax keep your blood pressure down and maybe you will get another chance 4 years from now.

But please one suggestion, stop running candidates like Sarah Palin and the guy you have now who is no better than a 70's game show host, looks like Wink Martindale!

Give me somebody I could vote for, after all I voted for Reagan twice!

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