Shutdown over, Obama surveys damage and blames GOP

President Barack Obama speaks in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington on Thursday, Oct. 17, 2013. Lawmakers Wednesday voted to avoid a financial default and reopen the government after a 16-day partial shutdown. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

President Barack Obama speaks in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington on Thursday, Oct. 17, 2013. Lawmakers Wednesday voted to avoid a financial default and reopen the government after a 16-day partial shutdown. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

— The government unlocked its doors Thursday after 16 days, with President Barack Obama saluting the resolution of Congress' bitter standoff but lambasting Republicans for the partial shutdown that he said had damaged the U.S. economy and America's credibility around the world.

"There are no winners here," Obama said just hours after signing a last-minute measure from Congress that was free of the Republican demands that had started the showdown. The deal allowed federal workers to return Thursday morning and headed off the threat that the nation would default on its debts, at least for this year.

"The American people are completely fed up with Washington," Obama said in stern remarks at the White House. The nation's credit rating was jeopardized, economic growth and hiring were slowed and federal workers were temporarily deprived of paychecks, Obama said, all because of "yet another self-inflicted crisis."

In hopes of averting another standoff when the just-passed measure runs out, Congress' four top budget writers met over breakfast to begin new talks on spending and borrowing issues that have bedeviled the divided government for years.

Obama warned lawmakers about disagreements so bitter they could "degenerate into hatred" and urged a shift toward cooperation. He called for Congress to come up with a long-term agreement for restraining Medicare and Social Security spending and to pass immigration and farm and food bills that have floundered amid partisan disputes.

He also sought to assure governments and investors around the world that the "full faith and credit of the United States remains unquestioned."

"We'll bounce back from this," Obama declared. "We always do."

The House and Senate voted late Wednesday night to end the shutdown that began when Republicans tried unsuccessfully to use must-pass funding legislation to derail the president's landmark health care law.

Early Thursday, Obama signed the measure and directed all agencies to reopen promptly. The government unlocked office doors, carried barriers away from national monuments and lifted entrance gates at parks across the county.

The relief felt by furloughed federal employees was tempered by worry that the truce might not last much past the holidays. Congress approved government funding only through Jan. 15.

To head off a default, the package gives the government the authority to borrow what it needs through Feb. 7. Treasury officials will be able to use bookkeeping maneuvers to delay a potential default for several weeks beyond that date, as they have done in the past. Among the maneuvers, officials can suspend contributions to one of the pension plans used by federal retirees.

In the meantime, lawmakers will try to find agreement on how to replace this year's across-the-board spending cuts with more orderly deficit reduction.

"I hope this is the end of this," said Vice President Joe Biden, who greeted workers returning to the Environmental Protection Agency with hugs, handshakes and muffins. But Biden acknowledged, "There's no guarantees of anything."

The small group of lawmakers tasked with steering Congress out of three years of budget stalemates and standoffs offered no promises.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said the group's goals were "to get this debt under control, to do smart deficit reduction and to do things that we think will grow the economy and get people back to work."

"We believe there is common ground," Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray, D-Wash., said after their meeting.

The impasse furloughed about 800,000 workers at its peak, before civilian Defense Department employees were called back. It closed down most of NASA, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior Department and halted work not considered critical at other agencies.

"We're back from the #shutdown!" the Smithsonian Institution crowed on Twitter, announcing that museums were reopening Thursday. The U.S. Capitol's visitor center planned to resume tours. "Closed" signs started coming down at national parks and offices across the nation, hours after the deal was sealed in Washington.

Congress agreed to pay federal workers for the missed time. No such luck for contractors and all sorts of other workers whose livelihoods were disrupted.

"More business. More money," cab driver Osman Naimyar said happily, noting the growing crowds of commuters on Washington streets. He lost about a fifth of his normal fares, he said, while federal workers stayed home and tourists disappeared from the National Mall.

The financial services company Standard & Poor's estimated the shutdown drained $24 billion out of the economy, and it can't all be recouped. That's about $75 for each U.S. resident. Fitch credit rating agency is reviewing its AAA rating on U.S. government debt for a possible downgrade.

Obama and his Democratic allies on Capitol Hill were the decisive victors in the fight, which was sparked by tea party Republicans including Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. They prevailed upon skeptical GOP leaders to use a normally routine short-term funding bill in an attempt to "defund" the 2010 health care law known as "Obamacare."

"We fought the good fight. We just didn't win," House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, conceded. He was given positive reviews from Republicans for his handling of the crisis, though it again exposed the tenuous grasp he holds over the fractious House GOP conference.

The shutdown sent approval of the GOP plummeting in opinion polls and exasperated veteran lawmakers who saw it as folly.

"It's time to restore some sanity to this place," House Appropriations Committee Chairman Harold Rogers, R-Ky., said before the vote.

The agreement was brokered by the Senate's top Democrat, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, and its Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. They stepped in after the House was unable to coalesce around a Republican-only approach.

McConnell is up for re-election next year, and the tea party opponent he faces in the Republican primary issued a statement criticizing him for making the deal.

"When the stakes are highest, Mitch McConnell can always be counted on to sell out conservatives," Matt Bevin said.

The Senate approved the legislation by an 81-18 vote. The House followed suit by a tally of 285-144, with 87 Republicans in favor and 144 against. Democrats unanimously supported the bill, even though it kept across-the-board funding cuts they opposed.

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August8 writes:

Unfortunately, we needed this shut down for another 3 years so American's will once again borrow a trillion to pay the interest on 18 trillion, darn?

26yearsonmarco writes:

I'm just hearing the news that there is lots of Pork in the Bill. These AH's will always take advantage of "We the People".

Also in the news, Crooker Booker has taken the Senate seat in NJ, over a conservative Republican.

Konfuzius writes:

The political crisis has turned out as a systemic crisis.
US-budget dispute: defeat for Republicans, victory for democrats in America
237-year-old democracy is reaching its limits. Their political architecture is not designed for permanent veto and blackmail, as the tea-party abounding - Group practiced for almost four years. The US founding fathers had once a clever system of checks and balances designed. Checks and boycott, no question.
Because there is hardly any other western democracy, the parliamentary minority rights similar pronounced as in the United States: a single Senator can stay laws, realities, refuse the system. Hardly 50 right-wing populists, led by tea-party abounding -Senator Ted Cruz, expressed their once proud party Kamikaze this time. Why is it that the Republicans let the other with them? Because they are afraid - from radical party challengers in their own districts. In Washington has massively changed the communication style with each other. It has now become a battle rages, the injury to teach the opposite heavily. The people have respect for one another, but not more than worthy enemies as enemies fighting, goaded by Radio-Talkers , for the compromises are a sign of weakness and lies only a form of reality. The tea-party abounding -protagonists, such as Sarah Palin, Alaska Ex-Governor closeness to set Tone - and proud hold up by ignorance and stupidity as a badge of honor against the new "elite" and their intellect. What comes out of it, also showed during the current debt crisis: a US-national bankruptcy, Ted Yoho because of the Republican Party's been so happy ignorance in economic contexts, but not so bad: "Personally, I believe that the world markets could bring stability."

This time it was the United States just saves time, to test such claims. But the system sticks - and the next crisis has already a date: 15. January 2014.

panola60 writes:

Imagine if, during the campaign of 2008, someone had written the following: “If Barack Obama is elected president, then each year from now on the federal budget will be a trillion dollars in the red. He will pile up in two terms more debt than all previous presidents combined. Interest rates will stay at near zero; he will lower the Labor Force Participation Rate to 1979 (Jimmy Carter) levels, and 3 out of 4 jobs created will be part-time. Record use of food stamps, unemployment, and disability insurance will be hallmarks of the Obama economy.

The government will take over health care, the costs will skyrocket and the Federal Agency assigned to enforce Obamacare will refuse to participate in it. Obama will outsource the ACA front-end web site and it will fail, all while he hands out over 1200 ObamaCare waivers to his Special Interest groups and Campaign Donors. Then Obama will illegally delay the Employer Mandate portion of the law until after the 2014 elections because of its negative impact on unemployment.

• The Baltimore Sun: “Lost Jobs, Higher Costs; Obamacare Hits Home.”
• The Indianapolis Star: “Health-Care Tax Plan Threatens Hoosier Jobs.”
• The Arizona Republic: “Obama Agenda Crushing Employment.”
• The Boston Herald: “Experts: Obamacare Could Hit Paycheck.”
• The Wall Street Journal Abstracts: “Obamacare vs. Small Businesses.”
• The Star Tribune: “Obamacare Now Begins To Reveal Itself; Expect Some Businesses To Stop Hiring And Others To Drop Health Coverage.”
• The Australian Financial Review: “Exporters Reluctant To Hire Full-Timers As Obamacare Obligations Loom.”
• The Chicago Tribune: “The Part-Timing Of America/ Obamacare Will Push Workers - Not Just Employers – To Cut Hours.”
• The Orange County Register: “Health Law May Chill Hiring.”
• The Kansas City Star: “Involuntary Part Time Jobs Are Growing.”
• The Columbus Dispatch: “Unhealthy Side Effects; Employers Seek Ways To Avoid Health-Care Law’s Burdens.”
• The Columbus Dispatch: Unintended Consequences; Thanks To Health-Care Law, Many Employees Are Seeing Hours Cut.”
• The New York Times: “Surge In Part-Time Work.”
• The Orlando Sentinel: “Workers’ Hours Cut – Obamacare Blamed.”
• The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: “The Obamacare Economy: 35 Part-Time Jobs For Every New Full-Time Job.”
• Investor’s Business Daily: “Obamacare Spurs Shift Away From 30-40 Hour Work Week.”
• The Washington Post: “Health-Care Law Is Tied To New Caps On Work Hours For Part-Timers.”
• WJFW News: “Obamacare Forces Trig’s To Limit Workers’ Hours.”
• The Los Angeles Times: “Small Businesses To Cut Hours And Workers Due To Obama Health Care Law, Survey Says.”

26yearsonmarco writes:

KONFUZIUS SAYS:

"Personally, I believe that the world markets could bring stability."

I believe the World just gave us the "Golden Finger".

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold....

Konfuzius writes:

"The fight was good, but we don't have won"
by Ted Cruz comes the plan, great President Barack Obama's health care reform with the negotiations on the fiscal clip to connect. The 42-year-old politician from Texas, it has only been a few months in the Senate, is a fundamentalist hardliners from the ranks of the Tea Party. It should be warm, 2016 candidate of the Republicans in the presidential election campaign.
That he is serious, showed Cruz at the end of September with a permanent speech of 21 hours and 19 minutes. He wanted to prevent the Senate the budget tilts, the House of Representatives previously dominated by republicans had adopted with the financial cuts in "Obamacare" should be adopted.
The attacks of the Republicans against health care reform have been unsuccessful - in the current compromise you could only a sharper test of state aid for health insurance. "We had a good fight, but we don't have won", said Republican president John Boehner exhibition the radio station "700 WLW". Boehner is the great loser of the dispute. He not only had to give in to great President Barack Obama. In addition, it has also become clear that the approximately 50 tea-party work separate from him and do what they want to do. Even if America goes t downfall.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to 26yearsonmarco:

KONFUZIUS SAYS:

"Personally, I believe that the world markets could bring stability."

I believe the World just gave us the "Golden Finger".

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold....

Ted Yoho because of the Republican Party's been so happy ignorance in economic contexts, but not so bad: "Personally, I believe that the world markets could bring stability."
Ted Yoho said NOT Konfuzius!!

26yearsonmarco writes:

KONFUZIUS,

You are right, there is only one KONFUZIUS, and we should all be thankful for that.

So now read this:

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-ex...

August8 writes:

in response to panola60:

Imagine if, during the campaign of 2008, someone had written the following: “If Barack Obama is elected president, then each year from now on the federal budget will be a trillion dollars in the red. He will pile up in two terms more debt than all previous presidents combined. Interest rates will stay at near zero; he will lower the Labor Force Participation Rate to 1979 (Jimmy Carter) levels, and 3 out of 4 jobs created will be part-time. Record use of food stamps, unemployment, and disability insurance will be hallmarks of the Obama economy.

The government will take over health care, the costs will skyrocket and the Federal Agency assigned to enforce Obamacare will refuse to participate in it. Obama will outsource the ACA front-end web site and it will fail, all while he hands out over 1200 ObamaCare waivers to his Special Interest groups and Campaign Donors. Then Obama will illegally delay the Employer Mandate portion of the law until after the 2014 elections because of its negative impact on unemployment.

• The Baltimore Sun: “Lost Jobs, Higher Costs; Obamacare Hits Home.”
• The Indianapolis Star: “Health-Care Tax Plan Threatens Hoosier Jobs.”
• The Arizona Republic: “Obama Agenda Crushing Employment.”
• The Boston Herald: “Experts: Obamacare Could Hit Paycheck.”
• The Wall Street Journal Abstracts: “Obamacare vs. Small Businesses.”
• The Star Tribune: “Obamacare Now Begins To Reveal Itself; Expect Some Businesses To Stop Hiring And Others To Drop Health Coverage.”
• The Australian Financial Review: “Exporters Reluctant To Hire Full-Timers As Obamacare Obligations Loom.”
• The Chicago Tribune: “The Part-Timing Of America/ Obamacare Will Push Workers - Not Just Employers – To Cut Hours.”
• The Orange County Register: “Health Law May Chill Hiring.”
• The Kansas City Star: “Involuntary Part Time Jobs Are Growing.”
• The Columbus Dispatch: “Unhealthy Side Effects; Employers Seek Ways To Avoid Health-Care Law’s Burdens.”
• The Columbus Dispatch: Unintended Consequences; Thanks To Health-Care Law, Many Employees Are Seeing Hours Cut.”
• The New York Times: “Surge In Part-Time Work.”
• The Orlando Sentinel: “Workers’ Hours Cut – Obamacare Blamed.”
• The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: “The Obamacare Economy: 35 Part-Time Jobs For Every New Full-Time Job.”
• Investor’s Business Daily: “Obamacare Spurs Shift Away From 30-40 Hour Work Week.”
• The Washington Post: “Health-Care Law Is Tied To New Caps On Work Hours For Part-Timers.”
• WJFW News: “Obamacare Forces Trig’s To Limit Workers’ Hours.”
• The Los Angeles Times: “Small Businesses To Cut Hours And Workers Due To Obama Health Care Law, Survey Says.”

Great detailed post but what I don't think I read was the 'MEDIA', 3rd Democrat and as corrupt as Obama? Other that that, spot on !!!

RayPray writes:

Thank God the Great OBAMA did not shut down the part of the government involved in this urgent matter:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/n...

The Great OBAMA must be free to drone to oblivion anyone, citizen or just unlucky raghead, bold enough to oppose HIS will....

August8 writes:

in response to RayPray:

Thank God the Great OBAMA did not shut down the part of the government involved in this urgent matter:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/n...

The Great OBAMA must be free to drone to oblivion anyone, citizen or just unlucky raghead, bold enough to oppose HIS will....

You called Obama a raghead?????

MIOCENE (Inactive) writes:

in response to August8:

Unfortunately, we needed this shut down for another 3 years so American's will once again borrow a trillion to pay the interest on 18 trillion, darn?

Over the last 20 years while the GOP was obsessed with abortion, prayer, god, family values, the 10 Commandments and Gay marriage; millions of poor entered America.

Now that the poor have 'reproduced' into millions more; someone is going to have to provide subsidies for food, medical, housing and education for families; and babies being born to families ALREADY on Medicaid.

The ground work for socialism was laid a long time ago; probably under the administration of LBJ (Hart-Celler Act).

Presently:
The Catholic Church fights contraception and encourages births among the poor.
The Federal Tax System literally encourages people to have more children then they can afford.
The Religious Right wants to put an end to Planned Parenthood; which makes birth control available to poor women; which would swell the population of poor even more.

The Federal Deficit is increasing because Americans want "to eat their cake and have it too"; while their heads are buried in the ostrich hole of morality.

The poor will continue to have children; the middle class will pay the bill; while the rich ; who could care LESS about the deficit; laugh all the way to the bank.

MIOCENE

August8 writes:

in response to MIOCENE:

Over the last 20 years while the GOP was obsessed with abortion, prayer, god, family values, the 10 Commandments and Gay marriage; millions of poor entered America.

Now that the poor have 'reproduced' into millions more; someone is going to have to provide subsidies for food, medical, housing and education for families; and babies being born to families ALREADY on Medicaid.

The ground work for socialism was laid a long time ago; probably under the administration of LBJ (Hart-Celler Act).

Presently:
The Catholic Church fights contraception and encourages births among the poor.
The Federal Tax System literally encourages people to have more children then they can afford.
The Religious Right wants to put an end to Planned Parenthood; which makes birth control available to poor women; which would swell the population of poor even more.

The Federal Deficit is increasing because Americans want "to eat their cake and have it too"; while their heads are buried in the ostrich hole of morality.

The poor will continue to have children; the middle class will pay the bill; while the rich ; who could care LESS about the deficit; laugh all the way to the bank.

MIOCENE

Whoever or whatever you are, you are waisting my time so blog on the Huffington Post, maybe !!!!!

Konfuzius writes:

"Over the last 20 years while the GOP was obsessed with abortion, prayer, god, family values, the 10 Commandments and Gay marriage; millions of poor entered America."

You are right! GOP hit the wrong subjects. Who cares about this nonsense?

WMissow writes:

Does one ever wonder why there was never a mention of "cutting back on welfare" during the shutdown? We hear cutting back on the military, social security, parks, government workers ( but they got paid anyways )

Never on the constituency that put Obama into office, the dead beats and takers of our country!

What a mess the Democrats have put our country into. Who cares its not their money!

panola60 writes:

The Real Cost of the Shutdown / ObamaNocare

$745 billion - Obamacare caused 3 out of 4 jobs created in 2013 to be part-time:
$903 billion - Obamacare will cause 12 million people to lose their employer supplied healthcare in 2013 / 2014
$1.1 trillion - 7 million hard working Americans will lose their jobs because of Obamacare in 2013 / 2014
$6.6 trillion - 40 million Medicare recipients will see their benefits cut severely after 2014 /2015
$2.3 trillion - 150 million Americans will see their rates go up by 50% to 250% by 2015
$616 billion - Obamacare transfer of wealth from poor (young people) to rich (older people) in 2013 / 2014

$9 billion - Interest paid on national debt added by Obama ($7 trillion) just during shutdown

RayPray writes:

The House -- all those TP lunatics -- was designed to be closest to the popular will, standing for election every 2 years. In its wisdom, the Constitution only allows revenue bills to originate in this chamber.

The GOP is basically schizophrenic in a way the Democrats are not.

What is needed is political realignment into two new parties: a Big Government Party encompassing 95% of the Dems and 70% of the GOP; and a Libertarian-style Party holding the rest of the GOP and an ever growing majority of so-called Independents.

The Big Government Party can tingle those who genuinely believe the citizenry will be happiest once totally reduced to serfs of the state.

We spurn feudalism now, but during the Middel Ages it was a solution very popular with the 10% literate and calling the shots.

The Libertarian-style Party can adopt potentially winning policies, including, the end to:

>crony capitalism & continual failed military adventures

>the war on drugs & terrorism

>the militarization of federal & local police

>>racial quotas

>the CIA, DEA, TSA and NSA

>closed borders, federal income & death tax & the welfare, food stamp & disability state

August8 writes:

Why don't he blame his baby momma the A/H always blames someone else.

MIOCENE (Inactive) writes:

in response to WMissow:

Does one ever wonder why there was never a mention of "cutting back on welfare" during the shutdown? We hear cutting back on the military, social security, parks, government workers ( but they got paid anyways )

Never on the constituency that put Obama into office, the dead beats and takers of our country!

What a mess the Democrats have put our country into. Who cares its not their money!

For an answer to your question; read my last post.

you see: Over the last 20 or so years we turned a blind eye to the millions of poor coming here to "do the jobs Americans didn't want to do". Remember hearing that?

Unfortunately; the Catholic immigrant poor who came here from Mexico cannot maintain a family of four or five children by cleaning toilets, cutting grass and washing cars.

So now the BILL has to be paid in the form of medical benefits, education, food stamps and housing subsidies; because our white American children were two F'ing lazy to work part time at these menial jobs.

All of you conservatives got exactly what you deserved.

While you were busy trying to get rid of Evolution and replace it with creationism; rolling women's rights back to the 1950's, pushing Marriage Amendments; the country was being flooded with illegal aliens and the Liberals stole the government.

Conservatives got EXACTLY what was coming to them. By their obsession with god and religion; Conservatives ignored the border; and laid the groundwork for a socialized America.

MIOCENE

WMissow writes:

MIOCENE,

To blame one thing on the other is not quite correct. Yes the conservatives were pushing their religious based agenda but it was the Democrats who opened the doors in order to receive votes from those who came into the country and for those who were sitting back in this country not having to do a darn thing for their funding. What about those millions who have been on the take with welfare for decades and all we hear are the whining liberals is that we owe it to them.

Hogwash, many of them could have received a decent education but no they drank on the street, played basketball and to h*ll with getting an education. Fatherless families with children from several donors without any intent to help with the child's upbringing, so that both "parents" can stay on the dole. Who supported this for more than the last 40 years?

To blame the problem on one side is being blind to the total picture. We are screwed up and unless we figure a way out of this mess our children's children and for generations to come.

My answer to part of the problem is off of the dole and to get their capable butts to work. If the work for immigrants is not bad then it should be the same for those who can work and just sit back and collect your money and my money in order to do nothing except breed and ad more lives to the problem.

26yearsonmarco writes:

Here is one thing I think most of us can agree on:

NFL Update:

Because the American Indian Counsel has requested that the NFL disassociate itself from Indian Names, the Washington Redskins have announced that , effective immediately, they will change their name to the Washington Foreskins, in honor of all the liberal unmentionables in Washington DC .

August8 writes:

in response to 26yearsonmarco:

Here is one thing I think most of us can agree on:

NFL Update:

Because the American Indian Counsel has requested that the NFL disassociate itself from Indian Names, the Washington Redskins have announced that , effective immediately, they will change their name to the Washington Foreskins, in honor of all the liberal unmentionables in Washington DC .

Now that's a scream !!!!!!!!!!

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

MIOCENE,

To blame one thing on the other is not quite correct. Yes the conservatives were pushing their religious based agenda but it was the Democrats who opened the doors in order to receive votes from those who came into the country and for those who were sitting back in this country not having to do a darn thing for their funding. What about those millions who have been on the take with welfare for decades and all we hear are the whining liberals is that we owe it to them.

Hogwash, many of them could have received a decent education but no they drank on the street, played basketball and to h*ll with getting an education. Fatherless families with children from several donors without any intent to help with the child's upbringing, so that both "parents" can stay on the dole. Who supported this for more than the last 40 years?

To blame the problem on one side is being blind to the total picture. We are screwed up and unless we figure a way out of this mess our children's children and for generations to come.

My answer to part of the problem is off of the dole and to get their capable butts to work. If the work for immigrants is not bad then it should be the same for those who can work and just sit back and collect your money and my money in order to do nothing except breed and ad more lives to the problem.

Turn on your TV and see LINCOLN> You can learn a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MIOCENE (Inactive) writes:

WMissow:
Thanks for responding.

In the days of Reagan (ie) our economy was more LINEAR; meaning that America was still the controlling world Capitalist power.

Today it is more complicated; where China and the emerging nations have made it more like an competition WEB.

There is a lot more global competition now from billions of people entering the free market place since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Finally: There are the social factors of increasing entitlements for the growing number of poor and working poor, resulting partially from the religious arm of GOP's war on Planned Parenthood and discouraging birth control in the disadvantaged communities.

Not to mention the Catholic Church's discouraging contraception in much of the impoverished Catholic Hispanic population; which immigrated here over the last twenty years.

Millions of car washers and lawn cutters can’t support their growing families on Coolie Wages.

This is leading to even MORE economic overhead; so don't expect a return to the old days of expansion and runaway American prosperity.

The SIMPLE economic factors which made America great in the past; -no longer apply.

Immigration and the defeat of world Communism has changed America; and the world; -forever.

Traditionalists are just going to have to get used to it; and learn to innovate; as many are doing now by making products and selling world-wide from their own websites; working out of their garages and basements.

I don't believe Conservatives understand this; and any attempt to solve today’s problems with yesterday's solutions may make matters worse; a LOT worse.

The poor are having children, the middle class will pay the bill; while the rich laugh all the way to the bank.

Welfare and Socialism are here forever; and the Middle Class has to adapt by making money in unorthodox (yet legal) ways.

I know someone who makes specialized items in his garage. The materials cost him a few dollars; and he sells the items for a hundred a piece.

The average Middle Class Joe can no longer just get out of high school, work on the assembly line; and make a good living.

He (or she) has to now think and create in order to survive in this new American environment while paying the bills for the parasites and the hopeless.

MIOCENE

26yearsonmarco writes:

I wonder if we could borrow this so it can float down the Potomac River:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europ...

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