Obama wins Senate panel's backing on Syria strike

President Barack Obama speaks to media in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Sept. 3, 2013, before a meeting with Congressional leaders to discuss the situation in Syria. A vote for war can make or break a White House hopeful. The politically fraught decision weighs on potential 2016 Republican candidates Sens. Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

President Barack Obama speaks to media in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Sept. 3, 2013, before a meeting with Congressional leaders to discuss the situation in Syria. A vote for war can make or break a White House hopeful. The politically fraught decision weighs on potential 2016 Republican candidates Sens. Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

— President Barack Obama's request for speedy congressional backing of a military strike in Syria advanced Wednesday toward a showdown Senate vote, hours after the commander in chief left open the possibility he would order retaliation for a deadly chemical weapons attack even if Congress withheld its approval.

A resolution backing the use of force against President Bashar Assad's government cleared the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on a 10-7 vote after it was stiffened at the last minute to include a pledge of support for "decisive changes to the present military balance of power" in Syria's civil war. It also would rule out U.S. combat operations on the ground.

The measure is expected to reach the Senate floor next week, although the timing for a vote is uncertain. Sen. Rand Paul, a Kentucky conservative with strong tea party ties, has threatened a filibuster.

The House also is reviewing Obama's request, but its timetable is even less certain.

The administration blames Assad for a chemical weapons attack that took place on Aug. 21 and says more than 1,400 civilians died, including at least 400 children. Other casualty estimates are lower, and the Syrian government denies responsibility, contending rebels fighting to topple the government were to blame.

The Senate panel's vote marked the first formal response in Congress, four days after Obama unexpectedly put off an anticipated cruise missile strike against Syria last weekend and instead asked lawmakers to unite behind such a plan.

The president was in Sweden after a day of diplomacy when the vote occurred. At a news conference earlier, he said, "I always preserve the right and responsibility to act on behalf of America's national security." In a challenge to lawmakers back home, he said Congress' credibility was on the line, not his own, despite saying a year ago that the use of chemical weapons would cross a "red line."

Secretary of State John Kerry said he believes Obama will address the nation on Syria in the next few days. The president returns home from overseas Friday night.

Obama's request also received its first hearing in the House during the day, and Kerry responded heatedly when Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., said that Kerry, Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden all had advocated for caution in past conflicts. "Is the power of the executive branch so intoxicating that you have abandoned past caution in favor of pulling the trigger on a military response so quickly?" Duncan asked.

Kerry, who fought in Vietnam in the 1960s and voted to authorize the war against Iraq a decade ago, shot back angrily: "I volunteered to fight for my country, and that wasn't a cautious thing to do when I did it." When Duncan interrupted, the secretary of state said," I'm going to finish, congressman," and cited his support as senator for past U.S. military action in Panama and elsewhere.

Asked during the hearing about international support for Obama's threatened military strike, Kerry said the Arab League has offered to pay the cost of any U.S. military action. He was not specific but said the offers have been "quite significant, very significant."

The Senate committee's vote capped a hectic few days in which lawmakers first narrowed the scope of Obama's request — limiting it to 90 days and banning combat operations on the ground — and then widened it.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a proponent of aggressive U.S. military action in Syria, joined forces with Democratic Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware to add a provision calling for "decisive changes to the present military balance of power on the ground in Syria."

At their urging, the measure was also changed to state that the policy of the United States is "to change the momentum on the battlefield in Syria so as to create favorable conditions for a negotiated settlement that ends the conflict and leads to a democratic government in Syria." McCain, who has long accused Obama of timidity in Syria, argued that Assad will be willing to participate in diplomatic negotiations only if he believes he is going to lose the civil war he has been fighting for over two years.

The changes were enough to attract bipartisan support, but political fault lines were evident inside each party on a military action that polls show a war-weary public opposes.

Seven Democrats and three Republicans supported the measure, while two Democrats and five Republicans opposed. Among Republicans, opposition came from lawmakers with the closest ties to tea party activists, including Paul and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, both presidential aspirants.

Among Democrats, Kerry's replacement in the Senate, Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., voted "present" after expressing misgivings.

In his comments in Sweden, the president sought to shift the onus for responding to Assad to Congress and the world at large. "I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line" with a treaty banning the use of chemical weapons. He added that "Congress set a red line" when it passed legislation a decade ago demanding Syria stop production of weapons of mass destruction.

His comments drew a disbelieving response from one Republican back home.

"He needs to go back and read his quote," Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia said, referring to a comment the president made slightly more than a year ago. On Aug. 20, 2012, Obama said, "We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. ... "That would change my calculus" about military action, he added at the time.

Elsewhere on Wednesday:

— In Syria, al-Qaida-linked rebels were said to have launched an assault on a government-held Christian mountain village in the densely populated western part of the country, and there was new fighting near Damascus as well.

— In Rome, Pope Francis underscored Vatican opposition to threatened military strikes against Syria, urging Catholics and non-Catholics alike to take part in a day of fasting and prayer for peace on Saturday. He has called for a negotiated settlement in Syria and also has condemned the use of chemical weapons.

— In France, Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault told parliament that failure to take action would allow Assad to launch more chemical attacks.

In Washington, Kerry said Assad had used chemical weapons 11 times, including once last spring. At that time, he said, Obama did not have a "compelling" enough case to push for a U.S. military response.

As for the most recent chemical weapons attack, Kerry declared that "only the most willful desire to avoid reality can assert that this did not occur as described or that the regime did not do it. It did happen - and the Assad regime did do it."

Few if any members of Congress dispute the administration's claim that Assad was responsible for the attack, and lawmakers in both parties appear far more focused on determining how they should respond.

Gaveling the House committee hearing to order, Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif., said that while it would be important to deter the use of chemical weapons by Assad and others, there remained many unanswered questions, including what the U.S. would do if Assad retaliated.

"The administration's Syria policy doesn't build confidence," he said.

In a letter to her rank and file, Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California said she had received suggestions for legislation in the House "to add language to prevent boots on the ground, to tie the authorization more closely to the use of chemical weapons and to address concerns about an open-ended timetable."

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26yearsonmarco writes:

A resolution backing the use of force against President Bashar Assad's government cleared the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on a 10-7 vote after it was stiffened at the last minute to include a pledge of support for "decisive changes to the present military balance of power"

IS THIS THE "DECISIVE CHANGE":

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/wor...

August8 writes:

Anyone, I mean anyone who trust and votes for this is certifiably nuts.
Make your voice heard and stop any chance of this incompetent shooting at anyone !!!

MIOCENE (Inactive) writes:

Many people and politicians talk brave about attacking Syria.

Keep in mind that Syria considers this an act of war.

What if they retaliate by placing bombs in airports here in the U.S.?

We have to be prepared for this.

We just can't take the so-called "moral high ground"; and because we believe we have a righteous cause; expect that the enemy won't punch back; in his OWN way.

I think we were fools for talking ourselves into this.

MIOCENE

26yearsonmarco writes:

All I can think about, and lose sleep over, is the fact that 9/11 is less than a week away, and I worry about what will happen to us this year.

And don't forget, it is also one year since Banghazi, and still no word.

http://globalfaithinstitute.org/bengh...

Seawaller writes:

So if Obama goes ahead and sends cruise missles into Syria not knowing exactly where the chemical weapons are stored, he may just land one on a chemical stockpile. Experts agree that at best only 30% of the chemicals would be incinerated (need a minimum of 2100 degrees) with the rest being dispersed over an extremely large area. He could gas more Al Queda than Assad ever dreamt of doing. Sounds like a plan to me.

26yearsonmarco writes:

Seawaller Sez:

"Sounds like a plan to me."

Assad is using the time obammee has given him to place innocent people, including women and children, at, or near, potential target sites.

RayPray writes:

As soon as I saw such august characters as high-roller McCain & b---- Boehner line up behind our GREAT OBAMA on the urgency to take action, I suddenly felt the powerful urge to zoom over to Syria and myself launch all the missles I could find against Damscus & maximum villain Assad....

August8 writes:

Not with Obama, no way he is absolutely a foolish incompetent and any hawk best know it !!

WMissow writes:

Obama, red line, what red line, it was somebody else's red line, not my red line. Did somebody find a red line?

Absolute ineptness at its best!

Konfuzius writes:

There is only one way. Negotiation on political level. If America is not part of international agreements, America will be totally isolated.
But our great President will be do the right staff. Cold war warriors have no support anymore. Better ten Obamas than one Bush!

Konfuzius writes:

To Vladimir Putin, the world is looking to you. What is your political standpoint? With great President Barack Obama or against great President Barack Obama? The world can caught fire. And you know it. Are you looking for an exit of your interior problems? Looks to me like that.
What kind of a man are you? There is a story that can explain who you are. As a former KGB agent, you knew that Mrs. Angela Merkel as a young girl was bitten by a dog.
Whenever the Chancellor Merkel were at talks in Moscow, the Putin's Labrador sniffed at the feet of Chancellor Merkel's.
The Chancellor was petrified. Their hands cramped up. The German press wrote: "Many of Mrs. Merkel's accompaniments were downright indignant about Putin's sadistic streak."
Putin's policy is the fear. Big fear!
I think that we all need to stand up and say: "Hey, you Russian. We are not afraid of you, don't worry about your dogs, Not afraid of playing games."
You are still a KGB vassal. Nothing else.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to RayPray:

As soon as I saw such august characters as high-roller McCain & b---- Boehner line up behind our GREAT OBAMA on the urgency to take action, I suddenly felt the powerful urge to zoom over to Syria and myself launch all the missles I could find against Damscus & maximum villain Assad....

Interesting - the boss of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, Pope Franziskus - made it crystal clear.

NO WAR AT ALL!

Now we will see how the lambs and sheep on Marco Island will argue. Remember next Sunday is coming up. Stay true to the party line!

26yearsonmarco writes:

KONFUZIUS SEZ: (at 4:03 am)

"If America is not part of international agreements, America will be totally isolated."

Your Great One has done his best to totally isolate us from the World on the Syrian issue.

Putin, and the rest of the World, including the Pope, is trying to get a message through your Great Ones thick head.

26yearsonmarco writes:

I can't wait to hear the KONFUZIUS retort to his Great Ones "obameecare" mandate on our job creation:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-au...

August8 writes:

This guy is 'SO' finished, finally !!!!

Konfuzius writes:

in response to 26yearsonmarco:

KONFUZIUS SEZ: (at 4:03 am)

"If America is not part of international agreements, America will be totally isolated."

Your Great One has done his best to totally isolate us from the World on the Syrian issue.

Putin, and the rest of the World, including the Pope, is trying to get a message through your Great Ones thick head.

Interesting that you honor Putin more than great President Barack Obama.
Putin is an undemocratic joke.
Maybe that the reason you and August loved him.
Unfortunately a lot of American sympathizings dictators. George Lincoln Rockwell is their hero. To bad.
However - better 1 000 000 Barack Obamas than 1 Vladimir Putin.

WMissow writes:

Konfusion,

Putin made a fool out of Obama, Obama made a fool out himself with handshake ,a wink and a promise.

If Putin is a joke what does that make Obama? A wet behind the ears kid who is totally out of his league.

You are right on one point though, it would take 1,000,000 Barack Obamas to understand that he is not wheeling and dealing as he did in Chicago when it comes to world politics.

I am not siding with Putin in any way politically, but Putin is a whole lot smarter and experienced than Obama will ever be.

RayPray writes:

Poison Gas violates all the sacred laws of war.

Morality demands, if the US and more importantly the GREAT OBAMA want to be taken seriously by world opinion, that we must send the military over (no politician kids included) and surgically cruise missile or drone a lot of ragheads back to Allah.

I get such a warm feeling knowing that Obama can kill slews of throw-away foreigners without ever risking the label of war criminal.

August8 writes:

in response to RayPray:

Poison Gas violates all the sacred laws of war.

Morality demands, if the US and more importantly the GREAT OBAMA want to be taken seriously by world opinion, that we must send the military over (no politician kids included) and surgically cruise missile or drone a lot of ragheads back to Allah.

I get such a warm feeling knowing that Obama can kill slews of throw-away foreigners without ever risking the label of war criminal.

They are killing each other, must say I'am more confident in Putin, how weird.

Konfuzius writes:

What a change in history.
Americans are more confident with a dictator like Putin than with the free elected President of the USA.
Shame on you.
The level of some AMERICANS are really below the line. I am wondering that I hear not a hurricane of protests.
And August is a government worker. Paid by the taxpayers. America is in downfall. To bad.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

Konfusion,

Putin made a fool out of Obama, Obama made a fool out himself with handshake ,a wink and a promise.

If Putin is a joke what does that make Obama? A wet behind the ears kid who is totally out of his league.

You are right on one point though, it would take 1,000,000 Barack Obamas to understand that he is not wheeling and dealing as he did in Chicago when it comes to world politics.

I am not siding with Putin in any way politically, but Putin is a whole lot smarter and experienced than Obama will ever be.

Wrong! Great President Barack Obama makes a fool of Putin.
Putin will keep his power in Mideast by Assad. Nothing else. And any political instrument is good for him.
America has Iraq thanks loser W. Bush. Now Putin wants Syria. Equivalent. And some Americans have nothing else to do than make great President Barack Obama looking weak.
America on downfall. Nobody can stop that anymore.

Konfuzius says:

WMissow you are the last warrior of the Russian revolution. Better you follow the American revolution. So far you can understand. I can not believe.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to August8:

They are killing each other, must say I'am more confident in Putin, how weird.

Traitor!

RayPray writes:

in response to August8:

They are killing each other, must say I'am more confident in Putin, how weird.

Konfuzius writes:

You are a victim of communist propaganda. Goebbels level. Not your best post.

26yearsonmarco writes:

KONFUZIUS SEZ:

"You are a victim of communist propaganda."

Speaking of propaganda, does anyone think we will get tired of the GREAT ONES propaganda and DEMAND THE TRUTH ABOUT BENGHAZA????

Or, as Hillary Billary said, "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?"

WMissow writes:

Konfungusamoungus,

Obama does not need anybody but himself to look weak!

You are right about something. Many of us have no confidence in him and for good reason...he just can not do the job which is required of a national leader.

WMissow writes:

Konfungusamoungus,

Maybe these words will be more to your understanding.

"Never in my adult life have I been less proud of the person who occupies the White House."

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

Konfungusamoungus,

Maybe these words will be more to your understanding.

"Never in my adult life have I been less proud of the person who occupies the White House."

"Never in my adult life have I been less proud of the person who occupies the White House."

You are a poor guy or real war head. You have the perfect President at White house. A man with no scandals. A fantastic family guy with a beautiful wife and First Lady and two nice daughters. He is not lying to the American people "Weapon of mass destructions" like Bush. He had no sex with womens in oval office. He is in no Watergate affair trapped.
He had not a slave girl friend like Thomas Jefferson. Warren G. Harding was the biggest womanizer in us HISTORY. Ronald Reagan and the Iran-Contra-Afferent still in the dark. In addition to the enormous lie of George W. Bush, the Clinton administration appears as relatively minor. Remember: in 2003, the American Government legitimized the Iraq war with the spectra of weapons of mass destruction. Bush and his cronies told the world without batting an eyelid, that Saddam Hussein had an arsenal of chemical and biological weapons. Once on the ground, the military could muster but not a single proof. The lying allegations of the President have only served to conceal the true motives of the Iraq war: control of the country's petroleum reserves and American hegemony in the Middle East. HOW MANY AMERICAN GI's LOSS THEIR LIFE FOR NOTHING?
Assad or the rebells used chemical weapons against their own people. That is fact.
But great President Barack Obama is looking for a big alliance of supporters.
He is the best President America have since John F. Kenned. I am proud of him.

WMissow writes:

Konfungusamoungus,

Obama's Incompetency and Ineptness Trumps All.

His whole life has been a secret in which nobody has had complete access to. WHY?

Konfuzius writes:

His life is open like a book. But you will never read it. It will not fit your color prejudice and biased opinion.
But smart and modern America stays behind, beside and before great President Barack Obama.

26yearsonmarco writes:

A little Humor for KONFUZIUS:

1. SPEAKING GERMAN IN TEXAS

In Texas, there is a town named New Braunfels, where there is a large German-speaking population.

One day, a local rancher driving down a country road noticed a man using his hand to drink water from the rancher's stock pond.

The rancher rolled down the window and shouted: "Sehr angenehm! Trink das Wasser nicht. Die kuehe haben darein geschissen."
(Translated: “Glad to meet you! Don't drink the water. The cows have crapped in it.")

The man shouted back: "I'm from New York and just down here campaigning for Obama's health care plan. I can't understand you.
Please speak in English."

The rancher replied: "Use both hands."

2. Clint Eastwood's One Sentence Editorial --

.."We Americans are so tired of being thought of as dumb as**s by the rest of the world that we went to the polls this past November and removed all doubt."

August8 writes:

in response to WMissow:

Konfungusamoungus,

Obama's Incompetency and Ineptness Trumps All.

His whole life has been a secret in which nobody has had complete access to. WHY?

We will some day, unfortunately it will be in about four more years.

26yearsonmarco writes:

Someone is finally speaking the TRUTH about "Our Once Great Country".

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/06...#.UiskxZTD_b0

WMissow writes:

Konfungusamoungus,

The open book which you speak of seems to have only bits and pieces and a couple of chapters actually in print or available to the public. From all appearances it started as a fantasy story which turned into a mystery and appears to end as a horror story!

ajm3s writes:

Ms. Peggy Noonon has encapsulated the American mindset:

"What are the American people thinking? Probably some variation of: Wrong time, wrong place, wrong plan, wrong man."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001...

As for myself, definitely the wrong man in the role of Commander-in-Chief and pretty much lost all confidence in America's role to end civil wars.

WMissow writes:

AJM,

Quite an article, thank you!

Konfuzius writes:

in response to ajm3s:

Ms. Peggy Noonon has encapsulated the American mindset:

"What are the American people thinking? Probably some variation of: Wrong time, wrong place, wrong plan, wrong man."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001...

As for myself, definitely the wrong man in the role of Commander-in-Chief and pretty much lost all confidence in America's role to end civil wars.

That is not the key message of this article. The key message is:

"The American people do not support military action."

Great President Barack Obama will listen to the people. Particularly after the shock photos of this slaughter rebells.

WMissow writes:

History has shown us that the American people rarely if ever support military action until the absolutely are forced to. It is no different now.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the incompetence and ineptness of your hero.

Wrong place, wrong time, surely WRONG man!

Konfuzius writes:

A plane's crash. Five passengers are on board, there are only 4 parachutes.

The first passenger says: "I'm the best NBA basketball player Shaquille O'Neill. The Lakers need me, I can't do it to them to die." So he takes the first parachute and jumps. The second passenger, Hillary Clinton, says: "I am the wife of the former President of the United States. I am also the most committed woman in the world, I was Senator in New York, secretary of states and America's potential, future President." She grabs a parachute Pack and jumps. The third passenger, George W. Bush, says: "I am the former President of the United States of America. I have a huge responsibility in world affairs. And besides, I was also the smartest President in the entire history of this country, so I can not answer it to my people, to die." And so he takes a package and jumps.
The fourth passenger, the Pope says to the fifth passenger, a ten-year schoolboy: "I'm already old. I've lived my life as a good person and priest, and as such, I will leave the last parachute." Sure the boy replies: "No problem, there are even for you a parachute. America's smartest Ex-President took my schoolbag..."

Thanks God, Bush times are over.

WMissow writes:

Your telling of a joke is a joke.

If the plane already crashed as your first line stated. Why did anybody then need a parachute?

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

History has shown us that the American people rarely if ever support military action until the absolutely are forced to. It is no different now.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the incompetence and ineptness of your hero.

Wrong place, wrong time, surely WRONG man!

"History has shown us that the American people rarely if ever support military action until the absolutely are forced to. It is no different now."

You really believe that?
WWI? - America steps in 1917. The war was close to over.
WWII? - America was invited by Japan in Pearl Harbor. Maybe that fits your theory.
Korea? - UN mandate and no win.
Vietnam? - a big loss. Nobody invited America.
Iraq under Bush senior? UN mandate and a stop on the wrong time.
Iraq under W. Bush? BS politic. Totally not necessary.
Afghanistan? - useless.
Syria now? Let them kill themselves. Americas invitation is not necessary.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

Your telling of a joke is a joke.

If the plane already crashed as your first line stated. Why did anybody then need a parachute?

It is a joke!

WMissow writes:

Konfungusamoungus,

I said "the American people" not the government. So your response was not to my actual comment but to your incorrect interpretation of such. Which you seem to do a whole lot of.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

Konfungusamoungus,

I said "the American people" not the government. So your response was not to my actual comment but to your incorrect interpretation of such. Which you seem to do a whole lot of.

Somebody says so - you say so!

WMissow writes:

Konfungusamoungus,

Thank you, once again, for proving my point!
But you do not understand that, either.

WMissow writes:

Another example of Obama's ineptness is when he made his comment about establishing a red line. It was when he was not reading his monitors and adlibbed the statement.

His weak attempt at saying it wasn't him who said it and it was, (transferring the blame to), other governments was proof of another attempt of misinforming the American people.

If you are too dumb to see this, then you are just plain too dumb.

August8 writes:

He's a 'LOOSER' enough said !!!

26yearsonmarco writes:

KONFUZIUS SEZ, AND I AGREE:"

"Syria now? Let them kill themselves. Americas invitation is not necessary."

26yearsonmarco writes:

ROBIN WILLIAMS SEZ, AND I ALSO AGREE:

'I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.'

1) 'The US, UK , CANADA and AUSTRALIA will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East, and the Philippines . They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are from. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never
be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.

6) The US, UK , CANADA and AUSTRALIA will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness.
The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere..' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army.. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE. Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?

The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses..' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' '

WMissow writes:

Instead of sending troops over or do any bombing ourselves. I would suggest giving both sides short range bombs and weapons and let them bomb each other into oblivion.

I think they call it killing two birds with one stone.

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