Letter to the Editor: Speak up against this project

I have lived on Marco for 25 years. I have been a secretary for one of the local churches and active in our community for decades.

We do not need an 87,000 square foot convention center on our island. Traffic is bad enough.

I ask all of my friends and neighbors to please speak up against this project.

Bonnie Reed

Marco Island

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captnjimbo writes:

I was told that the Marriott has downsized their plans dramatically, but have seen no news reports to collaborate.

lauralbi1 writes:

Dear Bonnie: Please get specific on what impact you, as a Island resident, will experience from this expansion. I have only been here 14 years and I cannot come up with any impact that I will see other than a loweruing of my tax bill due to an increase in the Marriott's contribution.
Ed Issler

ajm3s writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

Dear Bonnie: Please get specific on what impact you, as a Island resident, will experience from this expansion. I have only been here 14 years and I cannot come up with any impact that I will see other than a loweruing of my tax bill due to an increase in the Marriott's contribution.
Ed Issler

Really, no impact other than "loweruing your tax bill due to an increase in the Marriott's contribution."?

NOT TRUE!

MIOCENE (Inactive) writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

Dear Bonnie: Please get specific on what impact you, as a Island resident, will experience from this expansion. I have only been here 14 years and I cannot come up with any impact that I will see other than a loweruing of my tax bill due to an increase in the Marriott's contribution.
Ed Issler

It would be long-range madness to build this convention center.

You will choke in a sea of cars turning a paradise into one of roads with endless traffic.

-And don't think that your taxes will go DOWN.
It never happens; and even if they go down initially; they eventually go up again.
It never fails.

WMissow writes:

Issler,

Do you really mean that dozens of tractor trailers eating up our roads does not present an impact?

How about the noise of these trucks day and NIGHT will not have an impact on those residents who live on or near roads that these trucks will be using every time there is a convention being held?

The residents of this island want the Marriott to be a good neighbor not an annoyance to the quiet enjoyment to which we moved here for and not just to increase the income of stores such as yours inside the Marriott.

MrBreeze writes:

Taxes will not be lower. Quality of life will be lower.

WMissow writes:

You have that, absolutely, right, MrBreeze!

MrBreeze writes:

WMissow, You are right about the truck traffic. One of my past jobs was driving Semi for loads that went to convention centers. If the load was a specialized display I would have to either go back and pick it up or stay local until the convention was over. The bigger the convention, the more trucks arrive to unload and setup. This would be a huge impact to the island.

Remember, I said the "new bridge" had a purpose. Well this could be one of them.

lauralbi1 writes:

Over 90% of Marriott guests do not arrive via individual automobiles, so any reference to increased car traffic is not a valid one. The Marriott,as far as rooms are concerned, runs 100% during season right now with the conventions they have now. The new Convention space, according to the presentation, is to assist in building up the off season occupancy. Some of you are painting pictures that just are not so. The Marriott Hotel, as a structure, was here long before many of you, in fact most of you. It is funny that so many of you arew complaining. Redviewing old blogs, it was the same group of people that complained aboyut the Collier Storm Drain project and made comments like "we don' care about flooding and traffic", "we want to keep Collier Blvd the same". Now the same people are blogging about that traffic that they did not care about before.
Give it a rest. The Island is growing and schools, parks, commercial and infra-structure needs and will grow with it.
Very few are interested in your "Retirement Community" and your doom and gloom !!!
Ed Issler

MrBreeze writes:

Mr. Issler Again, sir you are dead wrong. If your statements about expansions of the island and not being a "Retirement Community" then sir why are you located on Marco Island? Were you born and raised on Marco Island? Raised a family on Marco Island? Worked or owned a business on Marco Island?

Expansions on limited areas will take redevelopment. Mr. Issler would you be willing to give up your home and leave Marco Island to forward your vision of future expansions? This would allow someone or something who may be more suited utilizing your space in a more productive manner.

lauralbi1 writes:

All of the above comments are hilarious, as they actually represent a point of view that would have some citizens changing the wzoning regulations on their own. The Marriott has always been a good neighbor, and again, was here long before many of you that are complaining.
If the Marriott can build what they are looking to build within City guidelines and zoning, then they will build it and you will not notice any difference. And my bet is that it will be built. The ONLY item holding up this project would seem to be parking. And since the only future parking will be Valet parking, according to the presentation, there are many ways for the Marriott to accomplish that. They could buy another lot close by, they could lease spaces from another property close by (as Joey's did), or they could do something like the solution below:

http://www.stackparker.com/

So you can keep crying and complaining which many of you do on a regular basis, but based on ingenuity and aggressiveness, this expansion will most likely happen.
Ed Issler

WMissow writes:

Mr. Ed,

You posted that there was no asbestos being dumped at a lot near you until it was found out to be just that.

You did not want a school being built near you and formed a group to dismantle that idea. Claiming that deed regulations prevented that. What about written agreements made by The Marriott not to do what they wish to do now?

You fought head over heals for the prior city councils who only did what they wanted to with little to no public opinion, one of who lied to the public only to admit such and later having City Hall named after him at an unannounced move by your city council boys, which is a glaring insult to the honesty of this beautiful city.

We have had enough lies and promises which mean nothing to those making them.

Now is the time for the residents of this city and stand up for their rights of quiet enjoyment not for those who wish to increase their bank accounts at the expense of others.

Maybe that is why most of the prior City Council got dumped in the last election?

lauralbi1 writes:

Boy, talk about being mis-quoted. It should be more like the accuser being misinformed. None of what WMissow has stated above is correct. None of it. Oh, except for the fact that our neighborhood banded together when the MIA was considering placing what is now on Sam Marco on a portion of the Church across from Veteran's Park. Yes, we hired a lawyer and found the Deed Restrictions and spoke to Deltona and MICA and got that idea halted. And good for us !!!

The issue here is that the Marriott can do whatever is permitted on their property (or Mass Mutual's property) as long as it meets zoning and Deed Restrictions. The Marriott is the largest supporter of charities, is thre main reason MIA exists today, and has done nothing but good for the Island and its' citizens since its' existence.
The only item holding the Marriott back from doing what they desire is PARKING !! The new Convention Center, new Rooms, new restaurant and whatever else is planned is all within zoning regulations. And there are many avenues available to the Marriott to overcome the parking limitation.
The City has another Hotel planned for the Marco Town Center area and I would think you all would be much more upset and against that concept than this one.
Let's not complain just for the sake of complaining. Let's move on to something more relevant. By the way, Frank Recker lost by 144 votes. We have 2 (two) term limits for Council. That is why we have rotation, not because of any particular ideology. I guarantee that Bill Trotter would have won if he had been allowed to run again, as an example.
Ed Issler

MrBreeze writes:

I think also Mr. Issler was upset over swale parking in his neighborhood if I remember correctly.

Parking is not a small issue. Not all people who attend conventions use private transportation. Some people rent cars and they need a place to park be it on site off site or in Mr. Isslers swale. This is where the standoff lies.

I recently went to New York, it was 30.00 per day to park a car and that was discounted by staying at the hotel. Where would all the support vehicles park? They need offsite just for that.

Wmissow is right why should the people of Marco Island sell the place out for a mere tax break (if any). Why should the residents have to tolerate such nonsense. The Mariott is a very nice place and I am sure that the construction would be world class no doubt. It is the impact of the quality of life that it could have on the island which is the scary part.

Where is MICA on this? I believe it is far from a done deal.

Again, Mr. Issler you never answer questions that are asked of you ever notice that?

Would you sell your retirement home for the sake of growth and progress on Marco Island?

WMissow writes:

Mr. Ed,

Yes, you did a great job with the deed restrictions and such. Now it is time to make the Marriott stick to their WRITTEN AGREEMENT with the city and maintain their standing as good neighbors.

BTW.. Doesn't you or a member of your family have a jewelry store at the Marriott? If so, nothing more has to be said about your posts regarding this issue.

26yearsonmarco writes:

in response to WMissow:

Mr. Ed,

Yes, you did a great job with the deed restrictions and such. Now it is time to make the Marriott stick to their WRITTEN AGREEMENT with the city and maintain their standing as good neighbors.

BTW.. Doesn't you or a member of your family have a jewelry store at the Marriott? If so, nothing more has to be said about your posts regarding this issue.

Yes, Ed and his wife have a shop at the Marriott, and Ed should recuse himself from this discussion.

WMissow writes:

in response to 26yearsonmarco:

Yes, Ed and his wife have a shop at the Marriott, and Ed should recuse himself from this discussion.

26,

As I thought, it is all about the $$$.

It seems that the letters to the editor and the few posts in favor of the Marriott's plans are people who have businesses that would benefit financially from the increased number of visitors and party goers. The traffic, noise, road damage and other disruption to the peaceful tranquility which their neighbors moved here in the first place mean, absolutely, nothing to them.

It makes no difference how long any of us have been here, nobody but nobody should be permitted to carry on such activities and especially when they agreed, in writing, not to do any of that in the first place.

lauralbi1 writes:

WMissow: My last comment will hopefully get you to get the facts straight when you blog in the future. There is an agreement in place that prohibits Marriott from constructing a parking garage, or any structure on the east side of Collier Blvd. That is the ONLY agreement in place. There are MANY options that are available to Marriott in order for them to get additional parking spaces and I have suggested some of them in an earlier blog. I do not know how long you have been blogging on this site, but you should have realized long ago that the majority of comments come from those that complain the most or want this Island to return to the old days. That just will not happen. We have a vibrant new family population with children who go to school and enjoy everything that the Island has to offer. There is a lot more commercial land zoned on this Island. You should worry about that and not so much about what happens at the Marriott. Heck, for all we know, you could have a hidden agenda as a neighbor behind the Marriott Parking Lot.
Ed Issler

WMissow writes:

Mr. Ed,

Before you play the game of quoting me I never said that there was any other agreement in writing other than that of not to build on the east side of Collier. Don't even try to put words in my mouth, please.

Your comments are nothing more than self serving as the end result, you wish to increase your PROFITS at the expense of other residents. That you can not deny.

A vibrant new population has nothing to do with trucks, vans making noise and tearing up our streets which a convention center would cause. Get real if you do not think that any of this will happen.

I am worried about what happens at the Marriott and those other items you allude to. I enjoy my retired life on this beautiful island, along with the many thousands who moved here for that reason and don't wish for you or the Marriott to possibly ruin that for yours or their sake of PROFITS!

If I did have an agenda about being behind the proposed parking lot, which I do not, what does that have to do with the Marriott misrepresenting themselves by a document they do not wish to honor at least at this time?

WMissow writes:

Ok folks!

Lets all sing the song which has the lyrics:

"PAVE OVER PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT",

so that we can move ahead with the times and provide profits for those who wish to ignore their neighbor's reasons for moving to a beautiful place called Marco Island.

The Marriott should realize that old or older does not make any of us s-----!

26yearsonmarco writes:

I think I need to remind everyone that the property is owned by Mass Mutual, and is only managed by the Marriott Corp.

So one must assume the Marriott is the Scape Goat, and is only defending its management contract with the Real Big Wigs behind this s----- idea, which will overwhelm this Paradise.

lauralbi1 writes:

My wife has been at the Marriott going into her 21st year. Probably longer than many of you have lived here. The Marriott, according to the presentation, is looking for ADDITIONAL convention space, not a new convention center. The Marriott has been doing/hosting conventions since its' inception. To listen to the FEW this is a new concept. Not the case.
And my wife's business will be just fine no matter what happens, thank you.
Ed Issler

MrBreeze writes:

Yes, Ed and his wife have a shop at the Marriott.

It always amazes me that this type of hidden agenda surfaces. Then what happens after the place is ruined the people who gleaned off it leave. Then the poor sucker who just wanted what they thought they would enjoy are left in the dust. I have seen this so many times over it is sick. Greed is a disease and a bad one.

The truth about Planning and Zoning is most people ignore it until it directly effects them then it becomes a crisis.

I warned you people when everone embraced the new "free bridge" this is all part of the plan to turn this island into one big tourist trap.

As I said before if you have a lot of money you might be able to stay but if not start packing you will be moving and very well may want to.

Konfuzius writes:

"Over 90% of Marriott guests do not arrive via individual automobiles, so any reference to increased car traffic is not a valid one."

Eddi, Eddi,
I am since 1971 on this island. Nobody can outdo my experience about mis developments on this island. Sewer, asbestos, MICA, syndicate, Chamber, real estate. Special my experience with your comments and your predictions are unique. You were wrong all time! In the past you got the title VI in plenty of reactions to your nonsense. Remember one of your best: Waldi will be re-elected. Wrong! He was outvoted by a tsunami effect. And now this. The big majority of Marco Island is against the extension of the Marriott convention center. Why is that subject after all the trouble we had in the past with political decision maker not on referendum? I remember the goal of the new council.
"We will listen to the people!"
I mean who will be the winner if this project if it goes through? The member of the Chamber, small businesses, local restaurants and bars and of course Marriott and Mass Mutual. The Marco Island people have to live in dust and dirt again. They are the loser. No - Eddi, a convention center and 700 more rooms is another big bad step in the wrong direction.
Ask the people - put it on referendum!
We the people are tired of decision makers believing they do the best for us. They did never.
Unfortunately Eddi, you were anytime on the loser side finally. To bad for you.
And to bad for your syndicate friends too.

WMissow writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

My wife has been at the Marriott going into her 21st year. Probably longer than many of you have lived here. The Marriott, according to the presentation, is looking for ADDITIONAL convention space, not a new convention center. The Marriott has been doing/hosting conventions since its' inception. To listen to the FEW this is a new concept. Not the case.
And my wife's business will be just fine no matter what happens, thank you.
Ed Issler

"ADDITIONAL convention space, not a new convention center"

Mr. Ed, Your laughable use of semantics is just that, laughable. Shakespeare said it better. "A rose by any other name, still smells the same", and this sure ain't a rose!

As per yours and your wife's business we care no more or less about it than you care about the other retired residents on this island, thank you!

WMissow writes:

Bonnie Reed, Bob Uhler, Konfuzious, MrBreeze, 26yearsonMarco, ajm3s, what strange bedfellows we now make!

Konfuzius writes:

It is easy for MICA to fight and cancel a putt-putt facility for enjoyment for the people people want.
It is impossible for MICA to stop a giant facility for making big money people don't want.
MICA is not independent in their decisions anymore.
Time for them to go!

REFERENDUM time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Konfuzius writes:

in response to lauralbi1:

Boy, talk about being mis-quoted. It should be more like the accuser being misinformed. None of what WMissow has stated above is correct. None of it. Oh, except for the fact that our neighborhood banded together when the MIA was considering placing what is now on Sam Marco on a portion of the Church across from Veteran's Park. Yes, we hired a lawyer and found the Deed Restrictions and spoke to Deltona and MICA and got that idea halted. And good for us !!!

The issue here is that the Marriott can do whatever is permitted on their property (or Mass Mutual's property) as long as it meets zoning and Deed Restrictions. The Marriott is the largest supporter of charities, is thre main reason MIA exists today, and has done nothing but good for the Island and its' citizens since its' existence.
The only item holding the Marriott back from doing what they desire is PARKING !! The new Convention Center, new Rooms, new restaurant and whatever else is planned is all within zoning regulations. And there are many avenues available to the Marriott to overcome the parking limitation.
The City has another Hotel planned for the Marco Town Center area and I would think you all would be much more upset and against that concept than this one.
Let's not complain just for the sake of complaining. Let's move on to something more relevant. By the way, Frank Recker lost by 144 votes. We have 2 (two) term limits for Council. That is why we have rotation, not because of any particular ideology. I guarantee that Bill Trotter would have won if he had been allowed to run again, as an example.
Ed Issler

Eddi,
this is your statement number 1:

"Over 90% of Marriott guests do not arrive via individual automobiles, so any reference to increased car traffic is not a valid one."

Eddi,
this is your statement number 2:

"The only item holding the Marriott back from doing what they desire is PARKING !!"

But the plan is + 1200 parking spots.

Please Eddi, explain your verbal conflict!
If 90% of Marriott guests come not with their individual renting car, WHY do they need additional parking space?

WMissow writes:

Honestly, why do we not know what MICA is doing or no doing regarding this issue. There may well be a good reason for that.

I do not think a referendum is what will be effective. Referendums mean very little when it comes to legal decisions. We saw the little, if any, effect the petition had when it came to the courts decision regarding the Putt, Putt, course.

This Marriott issue may be headed to court before it is resolved. The question may well be will we have the funding to effectively fight Mass Mutual should that become necessary.

26yearsonmarco writes:

in response to WMissow:

Bonnie Reed, Bob Uhler, Konfuzious, MrBreeze, 26yearsonMarco, ajm3s, what strange bedfellows we now make!

This is what happens when people wake up and realize what a negative impact something will have on their every day personal lives.

Now we all need to get together and realize what effect ObamaCare is about to have everyone's personal lives.

After all, isn't your personal life, and health much more important than your belief in a particular political party???

liberator100 writes:

The same few; the usual suspects; always against progress; always against something.
Here is the bottom line; Marriott will build their expansion, it will be good for the Island. If you don't like it, there is Collier Boulevard, there is the bridge, get going.
Thank you Marriott for being a good neighbor, great business and excellent contributor to our Island. These misfits who blog here (except for Ed) are a bunch of useless people who contribute nothing to our Island. They are "users" and "blood suckers" always after a free lunch... Thank you Rick; thank you Marriott organization. Actually, just to get in the collective faces of these useless people; DOUBLE the size of the project!

WMissow writes:

Liberator,

Have you recovered from your recent foreclosure history? Talking about losers.

WMissow writes:

Additionally, After reviewing your past blogs, many of which were removed by staff, you leanings towards the "syndicate" and Ed is also quite revealing and just what we do not need any more of on this island.

MrBreeze writes:

Hey Liberator, Why don't you call me "user" "bloodsucker" and always after a free lunch.

Lets face facts pal. I have owned a unoccupied home for over 10 years. That means I have supported you and the other full time residents for over 10 years. That includes tax bills, water bills, landscaping, power bills, home maintence.

I would like to see you do the same before you start call names friend. Lets see what you contribute to the island. Myself and many others who do the same to support mooches like you should just pull out before your kind ruin the place for good.

And furthermore, I think your kind need to hit the bridge on a one way out before my kind.

My kind spends and pays, your kind takes and uses.

26yearsonmarco writes:

in response to WMissow:

Additionally, After reviewing your past blogs, many of which were removed by staff, you leanings towards the "syndicate" and Ed is also quite revealing and just what we do not need any more of on this island.

Unfortunately, "His Kind" is starting to out number "Our Kind", and are slowly trickling
down here to feed off us.

Konfuzius writes:

in response to WMissow:

Additionally, After reviewing your past blogs, many of which were removed by staff, you leanings towards the "syndicate" and Ed is also quite revealing and just what we do not need any more of on this island.

He is excused. He is a Vietnam hero still believing America won the war. At night he works as security guard at the Marriott.

MrBreeze writes:

26years Agree, totally Agree.

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