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Wow what a cheesy idea.
The city fathers are changing this island from class destination to no class resort.
The city fathers won't be happy until they change it to this!
http://www.wildwoodsnj.com/
Just look at the picture of those guys.
Nobody is under 70.. Half of you are most likely going senile and don't even know it.
Please just enjoy your retirement and stop spending our money!
This city is $400,000,000.00 in the hole....
Your ideas, like your age is out of date for today's financial concerns!
The Republicans favorite song.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cry-...
in response to naples_rocket: sure... State of Florida knows so much better how to manage business and money
in response to naples_rocket:
sure... State of Florida knows so much better how to manage business and money
Rocket please read what the PSC does!
http://www.psc.state.fl.us/
When the city bought the water department, the people of Marco Island gave up their rights to rate/price controls!
Cities owned water companies are exempt from wage and price controls! In other words they (the city) can raise the price as high as they like without any oversight or customer protection.
Time to sell the water/sewer department!
Time to sell the water/sewer department to professional public utility which is under the control of the state public service commission!
Hey Messiah chill out!
First in life no questions are stupid. They are just questions! I have not taken sides and don't care what Stan charges! I just asked a simple question, nothing more nothing less.
As far as the Locals enjoying the event, Some (Not all) of them have told me they now go to the Old Marco Lodge! I have been told they no longer go to Stan's after he raised his prices from $3.00 to 4.00 dollars for a beer.
Messiah, I have no problem paying $4.00 for a beer. And yes your right and I agree with you! Stan has a right to run his business and charge what he feels is fair.
I was just wondering if he raised the price to $5.00 for the mullet fest?
Don't kill me because I asked a simple question. Just RELAX & have a beer!
How much was Stan charging for beer this year?
But tax experts tell ABC News there are other reasons Romney may not want the public viewing his returns. As one of the wealthiest candidates to run for president in recent times, Romney has used a variety of techniques to help minimize the taxes on his estimated $250 million fortune. In addition to paying the lower tax rate on his investment income, Romney has as much as $8 million invested in at least 12 funds listed on a Cayman Islands registry. Another investment, which Romney reports as being worth between $5 million and $25 million, shows up on securities records as having been domiciled in the Caymans.
Official documents reviewed by ABC News show that Bain Capital, the private equity partnership Romney once ran, has set up some 138 secretive offshore funds in the Caymans.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-...#.TxfrHKVunNU
So much for being a good American!
You have got to be joking, right?
The light poles are way too close to the road. In some cases only 1 foot from the pavement. The poles should have been installed halfway between the sidewalk and the road. That way the sidewalks could also see some light, and the drunks won't knock them down. The tall lights are just plain ugly and look cheep! They look like the lights on interstate I-75 only painted green!
And Bushes wife never went with him on vacation?
You better get back on your meds! Your faux outrage is misdirected.
FACT!In 2001 the U.S. government took in more money than it spent and was paying down on the national debt, the fourth year in a row of surpluses under Bill Clinton.
What happened in 2001 to turn all those surpluses into deficits and is still being compounded everyday? Bush had started his war in Iraq that he refused to pay for; Medicare Part D – which was not paid for – had not been passed; significant amounts had not been spent on homeland security.
FACT: In 2001 the GOP Congress waived the Pay-Go rules and passed the first of Baby Bush’s irresponsible tax cuts. In 2002 they let the Pay-Go rules expire.
FACT: In 2003 Bush started his unpaid for war in Iraq and just a few months later he signed another another irresponsible tax cut into law, the first time an American president signed tax cuts into law during a time of war.
Don’t attempt to blame Obama for the problems that were created by Baby Bush’s tax cuts and the spending he refused to pay for in cooperation with a reckless and irresponsible GOP Congress.
You got your tax cuts to to create jobs in 2002, remember? Where are the jobs? Please give the true facts. Not the fact's you see thru your beer bottle!
In response to dc5799:
"Don't worry where Boehner is, worry about your nowhere but on vacation president is".
The link below is from CBS News:
"There has been criticism of the president's vacation at this time. But how does the number of vacation days the president has spent compare to his predecessors?
So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office.(has not been in office for 4 years as Augest8 said above) At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton took the least time off 28 days.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/0...
The Republicans want you to believe lies... that's how they get elected. Where are the job creators?
Many think the Republicans would rather let the country go down the drain than do what's right for it's people! Could someone please answer a question for me without throwing bombs... Bush gave you your tax cuts in 2002.. Where are the jobs? Where are the so called job creators?
in response to Brisla: Their opposition to a school was obviously the motive, not protecting eagles.
in response to Brisla:
Their opposition to a school was obviously the motive, not protecting eagles.
Question: What's wrong with protecting our National Symbol, The AMERICAN bald eagle?
This has nothing to do with a school, solar farm or dredging dump! However this has all to do with protecting our environment, wildlife and clean air.
When I first moved here this was a tropical paradise. Since then, this Island has turned into a "Blacktop City"
To those "Blacktop City" lovers, Please don't change our tropical Island into Cleveland.
I give the eagle group high marks for saving the environment for helpless voiceless beings, whose only natural enemy is man!
Those who want to "shove aside" any type of wildlife or the American bald eagle (to champion their own best interest) need a lessen in the benefit of preserving a balance!
Every modern city today has green space requirements, why not Marco?
Go back and read SunBum past posts. Bloging at 2:11am means this person has something on their minds and can't sleep. Worry about money maybe?
In life one needs only to follow the money to find the true intentions of this so called school. Personally, I would not send my dog to the Marco Island Academy! How could any loving parent send their child to this trailer park school is beyond me.
in response to Ocram: Captnjimbo, In retrospect I think that there would have been a great deal more acceptance by the community had the "Y" been that starting place as originally stated by the Academy. If things were to work out there, then the next step in growth might have been a great deal easier. But when statements of "Done Deal", "I never ever lose, ever", "almost dead residents living around Tract K", "child haters", "idiots for not reading the deed" were uttered by proponents a barrier was erected instead of a means for the community to work together to find a solution to a problem. Now that too seems doubtful. Too bad egos stood in the way. Maybe an honest and true concern for the community would have helped instead of the I am going to get my way, or else attitude exhibited at the CCSB meetings.
in response to Ocram:
Captnjimbo,
In retrospect I think that there would have been a great deal more acceptance by the community had the "Y" been that starting place as originally stated by the Academy. If things were to work out there, then the next step in growth might have been a great deal easier.
But when statements of "Done Deal", "I never ever lose, ever", "almost dead residents living around Tract K", "child haters", "idiots for not reading the deed" were uttered by proponents a barrier was erected instead of a means for the community to work together to find a solution to a problem. Now that too seems doubtful.
Too bad egos stood in the way. Maybe an honest and true concern for the community would have helped instead of the I am going to get my way, or else attitude exhibited at the CCSB meetings.
I agree! I know others that feel same way!
Ocram addressed you because you took the statement out of context. You failed to quote the whole statement.....
So let's repeat comment again...In it's entirety
"The child haters live on this island. They are the parents of those who hate anyone who is from a different social or ethnic group.
Their true, greatest fear is that Johnnie might fall in love with Juanita or Maria, and God forbid, Juanita or Maria gets pregnant."
That states the true haters are the parents who want to segregate their children and protect them from themselves!
They (the parents) are unwilling to except anyone that does not look like them or speak the same language.
Would you welcome your new son-in-law Juan or Jesus with open arms?
If you could, I still want an answer to the question I asked yesterday,
When you were arrested and convicted for assault a few years ago, who did you beat up?
The reason I ask the question is because you seem to be unstable, you call others "Sickos"
Some have told me they are unwilling to comment out of fear because of your past history.
Let it be said that this paper has a responsibility to it readers to protect them from violent individuals.
The threatening comments you have used against myself and others are a matter of record.
This paper needs to remove you permanently or risk legal action for not complying to it's code of conduct rules.
No one should fear saying what's on one's mind in America!
The question is the Marcos own sick blogger..... we all know who....
I have only one question for you, when you got arrested for assault who did you beat up?
MarcoDefender
Nice speech! I've got this information from a good source, that the permits to move the turtles will NOT be granted.
It seems that the cost to move the turtles will be the issue.
You still have the "Y" property where you had taxpayer support.
The city is going to build you a real nice building over at Mackle Park. It's the perfect location.
Marco 97..
I'm not insinuating anything. Let me ask again...
"Is what your telling us is, the demographics of the island schools and Lely are the same?
Your responce should a yes or no.
I did not ask about your next door neighbors nationality. When I describe my neighbors I don't say the French guy or the black guy down the street. Or the Spanish guy next door.
You see just buy your description you show your bias. One should be color/nationality blind when giving a description. In my eyes, we are all Americans.
To many have lost sight that at one time our grandparents, the Irish, Italians, Germans immigrants came here and fought the same types of bias I see on this island.
Have we forgot where we all came from? It seems that some want to turn their backs on the children at Lely for speaking different language.
The question is, Should we help those kids or kick them to the curb.
Watching this play out I fear the latter. Very sad indeed.
Orcam,
You might have a point.. Where did Recker get that black eye? Did he fall down? Somethings going on, more than meets the eye... No pun intended :)
Marco97...
"You should go to the schools on the Island sometime and see that it is not a bunch of rich white kids, far from it".
Is what your telling us is that the demographics of the island schools and Lely are the same?
Islandeye.... No big deal, but anyone who sells jewelry is the real crook! People who live in glass houses, etc, etc.
Ocram, Islandeye & RayPray.......
The child haters live on this island. They are the parents of those who hate anyone who is from a different social or ethnic group.
Their true, greatest fear is that Johnnie might fall in love with Juanita or Maria, and God forbid, Juanita or Maria gets pregnant.
Those select parents actions will be taking funds from the Collier County school budget for their publicly funded private school.
ALL taxpayers in this county will be affected by higher school taxes for MIA's public/private school.
Now certain council members want to take our "City" tax dollars and build the Marco Island Academy a 39,000 square foot building with an "Indoor Basketball Court" located In Mackle Park.
Let's not be fooled, that's just what it is. If it looks like a duck.and quacks like a duck, It's a duck!
I applaud Mr. Trotters suggestion that the building be put to the voters in a referendum.
I am dismayed again with Mr. Reckers comments "Bill, how did you get the STRP get done without a referendum".
BTW while this conversation was going on, Jane Watt was in attendance...I wonder why?
Some of our elected officials are out of order. They and are not representing the "Majority" wishes of the taxpayers of this Island.
While watching the council meeting last night on TV.. I noticed, Why no close up's of Frank Recker? Do we need to spend more money and buy another camera?
Ocram & Islandeye.......
Their greatest fear is that Johnnie might fall in love with Juanita or Maria. And God forbid, Juanita or Maria finds herself pregnant.
Those select parents and their actions will be taking funds from the Collier County school budget for their publicly funded private school.
Now they want to take our "City" tax dollars and build the Marco Island Academy a 39,000 square foot building with an "Indoor Basketball Court" located In Mackle Park.
Let's not be fooled, that's just what it is. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, It's a duck!
I applaud Mr. Trotters suggestion that the building be put to a voters in a referendum.
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in response to islandeye1#236971:
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Islandeye 1#236971......
The Marco Defenders real concern is having others supplement his/hers lack of funds to educate their children. Marco Island Academy is about the public funding a so called private school for certain children, without their parents having to paying tuition.
How could any caring concern parent deny their child a full diverse high school experience, and put them in trailers?
The parents that are the loudest moved here not because of their children, but because of their own selfish egos, the kids had no voice, no choice..
We will see how "green" MIA is when they apply for permits to remove the turtles from the property on San Marco Rd.
As far as the Track K comments, "Their's no crying in baseball"... Games over, and move on.
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in response to MarcoIslandWoman:
Great letter!
We have a major Conflict of interest!!! Frank Reckers on the MIA volunteers list.. Also on the list is councilman Chuck Kiester and his wife Jane.
As is councilman Larry Magel all listed as volunteers to the Marco Island Academy.
Oh yea Anne Batte is listed on the "Political Committee". Say it ain't so Joe, Political Committee...Come on
Makes one think what goes on in the back rooms of Marco outside of the sunshine?
Gentleman do what's right and publicly recluse yourselves..soon!!
Zoning issues will be brought up before you shortly, On the property MIA will be using on San Marco Road.
Then we have the issue to deal with about the turtles and the permits. All eyes will be on you, gentlemen.
We expect you to do the right thing.... we all will be watching, and you actions by law will be on video tape!
It's funny, Mr. Recker wants to bring legal action against the school board...... He should fear legal action against himself.
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Whiskey, Property values started dropping in 2007, not 10 years ago.
In some parts of this country prices have gone up. But one would have to look over the bridge to know that.
I went to a small school in Pennsylvania called Wharton, Look it up!
I retired from a major world bank at the age of 46. I took the golden parachute and decided to move here 10 years ago. I do daily what most wish they could do ... Nothing, besides play the market, drink and fish!
As far your question about Track K, It's not important what I think at this point. The property has been "Locked up for the next 5 years" so the conversation on that subject is moot, and you need to move on.
You keep insisting your profession is being a fortune teller. OK, fortune teller,
Tell us all which stock will triple over the next 2 months. If you answer that question correctly then you might have some creditability with all who read this.
Oh Yea one more thing..... Tell us all where we can buy that $59,000 Marco Island home....I'll take 3 of them,
Why be greedy?
Remember "Common sense sometimes isn't so common".
In response to WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT AKA "WTF"
After reviewing your comments I have questions.
Using your words not mine.......
"If you shorten the mortgage term and raise rates even with falling prices, costs fall? Is that what your suggest?
The numbers I used above were based on 5.00% which numbers would you use?
You said "Home prices will come back in line with wages." Whiskey...Houses on Marco will never sell for $59,900, that's what the current wages paid on Marco buys you!
I used the numbers we have today. If we all knew what tomorrow would bring as you suggest, we would be called fortune tellers.
My father taught me this old saying which I think applies here...and needs to be shared.....
"As you travel thru life you will find sometimes while dealing with others that "common sense, isn't so common"
You need to drink some more Kool Aid, after all it's Friday....Have a great weekend!
Ocram....
Hanks real concern AKA MarcoIslandWoman is having others supplement his lack of funds to educate his children. How dare us....
Some have told me he's in forclosure and can't afford to go elsewhere.
Marcoislandwoman said.... "The politics: We want a High School on Marco Island! Brave men"
You have high school location, start getting your permits to move the turtles, and stop crying about it, your an adult, act like one. Oh BTW, you might be asked to help pay for the permits....have you got it?
Marcoislandwoman....... I will say this again....If you feel that American schools are not up to your standards as you have said.
You have the freedom to move any place you like. To any city or any state.
If you hate America so much, move to the country that meets your standards.
That is what freedom is all about. The freedom to move, think and yes to say what's on your mind; even having to read your rants.
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in response to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot:
I question your post. "To put a quality, top rated high school (oxymoron in the state of FL) on Marco would help bring families here from surrounding areas. It would provide a source of employment".
The average house (on Marco) still costs $500,000.
The down payment that would be require is 20% or $100,000 down, plus $15,000 in closing costs. Financing $400,000 the payment would be $2,148.00 per month. Taxes of $5,000 a year would be $416.00 per month. Wind, flood and home owners insurance would be $3,500 a year or $292.00 per. And last but not least your Marco Island water and sewer bill which averages $160.00 per month.
Add that up and you pay $3,015.00 per month to live in the average home on Marco. Remember the lenders/banks no longer give or approve, liar loans, You must prove income!!
So in order to buy a home on Marco the bank would require an annual income of $108,800. My question to you is this......Do you know where on Marco someone is paying their employees $108.880 a year?
Teachers at MIA won't be able afford to live on Marco.
Do you know any working families that have 100k sitting around for a down payment to buy property?
May I suggest you take some courses in finance and math?
This is what has been sold to the Recker and the city council. That people will move here if we build a school.
Mr. Recker should concentrate his energies on bringing "Good paying" jobs to Marco. Show me the jobs that pay over 100k! Then your argument will have some validity.
BTW your comment "top rated high school (oxymoron in the state of FL)" If that's how you feel, God gave you two good feet. If you don't like Florida...well you know the rest!
You're not crying are you?
This conversation is about how one group of concerned taxpayers saved the eagles and the last green space on the island from destruction without anyone else having to pay for it.
Those individuals of the Marco Island Eagle Sanctuary Foundation should be applauded for their efforts.
Track K has been a political football for too many years, It's over! Case Closed!
If you were really concerned about your children's education, they would be enrolled in private schools.
MIA is about the public funding a so called private school for certain children, without their parents paying tuition.
You're not one of those who is looking for us to flip the bill for your children are you?
You're not concerned about the future of "Marco Island Kids".
Your real concern is having others supplement your lack of funds to educate your children here so they don't have to go elsewhere.
If you feel that American schools are not up to your standards as you have said.
Time for you, and the MIA to start getting permits to move the turtles. What is done is now in the past.
If you don't understand what's above, please read it again! .
in response to marcoislandmom: First of all islandeye1#236971.... There is nothing selfish about parents wanting a school on our island for 300 to 400 kids. That WILL NOT effect your taxes.... Why can't we share the Tract K site with the ONE Eagle. There is 11 acres. I think we know whos being selfish. The people whos home backs up to tract K. Now thats being selfish.
in response to marcoislandmom:
First of all islandeye1#236971.... There is nothing selfish about parents wanting a school on our island for 300 to 400 kids. That WILL NOT effect your taxes.... Why can't we share the Tract K site with the ONE Eagle. There is 11 acres. I think we know whos being selfish. The people whos home backs up to tract K. Now thats being selfish.
Time for you to move forward as Track K is now a "non-issue". Quit crying grow up and be an adult.
If you feel that American schools are not up to your standards as you have said. You have the freedom to move any place you like. To any city or any state.
Time for you, and the MIA to start getting permits to move the turtles.
What is done is now in the past..
Should we pave over the last green space on the island? Is this the goal of the current city council?
Is this what the tax payers have to look forward to with this group of Councilmen, build build, build, tax, tax, tax.......
In the 4 polls taken, the people of Marco Island said they would like to leave Track "K" "as it is/or a park!
Recker your a piece of work.... who should be run out of town for not representing the majority of tax payers.
This IS a prime example of the people taking their government back!
Congratulations to the Majority of Marco Island residents.
Donna, It's time to retire and enjoy what's left of your life.
This is going to be good. We will now hear from all the people who want something for nothing in life.
Retire! Enjoy what's left of your life!
A Question for all of you..... Who do you think is going to pay for that "State of the art High School?
Hank, It's time to out you and let everyone know who you are and where you live!
ORCAM...Not 3 councilman, 4 You are right, It's a major Conflict!!!
Frank Reckers on the MIA list..
Also on the list is councilman Chuck Kiester and his wife Jane.
Oh yea Anne Batte is listed on the "Political Committee" Too. Political Committee... Makes one think?
Gentleman do what's right and publicly, publicly recluse yourselves!!
Zoning issues will be brought up before you shortly for MIA. The voters will expect you to do the right thing....
We all will be watching, and you actions will be on video tape
Hank, Do you know anything about the law?
ORCAM...Your right, It's a major Conflict!!!
Zoning issues will be brought up before you shortly. The voters expect you to do the right thing....
We all will be watching, and you actions will be on video tape!.
PILARCheryl Ferrara is listed on the application to the school board as on the PR/Marketing committee.
Rumor has it she (Cheryl )was seen talking to one of the board members of the academy during the council meeting. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall listening to that conversation. So much for fair and balanced!
"How about a conflict of interest"........
Anne Batte, she is listed as on the Administrative Committee of the Marco Island Academy.
I always thought Marco councilman Joe Batte was an upstanding gentleman. I can now see why at the other nights meeting he fought so hard for the academy, he's on the list of volunteers too.
He should do what's right and recluse himself!! He would not get away with that type of behavior where he came from, so why here?
He won't get my vote next time!
I would love to list all the names........ Just contact the Collier County school board and they will give you a copy of all the listed supporters and committee members of MIA.
I know if my name were on the list without my permission I would be calling my attorney looking for damages from Jane Watt herself!
What should be in place is a 5 year moratorium on any naming rights.
After that time period it should be put on the ballot for the voters consent.
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