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In the public comment section of the meeting, Regina and Tim Dayton went to the podium to make statements.“Had our petitions been heard, none of these actions would have been necessary,” said Regina Dayton. “We have been portrayed as litigious malcontents. Wrongdoing by city officials has never been acknowledged.”“The city is intent on proceeding with both actions. The meter keeps running. The law entitles us to legal fees,” said Tim Dayton. “Please pay our legal fees.”“If the people of this community really understood, they’d have a much different opinion of us,” said Regina. “If we didn’t believe we were right, we wouldn’t have done what we did.”“We had either incomplete or improper inspections. When the transcripts are heard, there will be very different assessments,” said Tim Dayton.
In order to “have a much different opinion” of the Dayton’s, I searched various Public Records.
This site shows the number of times a Notice of Commencement was issued, which indicates there must have been issues involved in the plans that were submitted by the Dayton’s, for their “Custom Built Home”, designed by an Architect, I assume they hired, and whose name never appears in any documents.
http://apps2.collierclerk.com/CorPubl...
I also have many questions, which I hope the Dayton’s can answer, as to why they received so many mortgages from SunTrust under these circumstances, especially in 2009, , and also why, if the Dayton’s in 12/2008, were claiming to be filing bankruptcy, and then in 2013, found the cash to pay off a $350K mortgage.
Next, I reviewed the lawsuit filed by Dayton filed in 2009:
http://media.marconews.com/media/stat...
According to the lawsuit, Dayton’s claim the home does not comply with the Building Codes, and in Paragraph’s 31 and 32 they claim the Hambro System, a major structural component, has inferior concrete. Based on this fact alone, the Dayton’s should not be occupying the home because of health, safety and welfare concerns, and the home should be “Red Tagged”, until this matter is resolved, or proven untrue. http://www.ncbarch.org/hswdef.pdf
I’m sure the Dayton’s have a complete explanation of all these publically recorded document’s, and can fully justify why they have made so many people’s lives so miserable since selling their beautiful 872 sq. ft. 2 bedroom, 1 bath home in Ohio, valued at $61K, and now living in this horrible home that is even too dangerous to live in.
http://www.ottawacountyauditor.org/Da...
Please, will someone call the proper authorities to have this home “Red Tagged” before the home collapses, and our neighbors get hurt
I wonder what impact all this information will have on them when they decide to sell???
Let’s start a conversation based on the following two articles in today’s news:
The first one reveals bonus payments to IRS employees, who, and I did not know this, are in a Union.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130...
The next article is about “We the People” in Washington today trying to correct the IRS mess, and I wish I were there to support them.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/18/the...
Our Elected Politicos have a once in a lifetime opportunity to correct the IRS mess, and it needs to be dealt with during their tenure. Will they do anything constructive??? Your guess is as good as mine.
in response to lauralbi1: In responding to your asbove comment, I did not vote for the design being considered. I actually voted for the design that provided the most clearance for boats. Kind of a "self serving" vote. I, personally, do not care what type of replacement bridge gets built, just so long as the bridge is replaced.I would love to see an accounting of the $2 million you reference in your blog. Is this available at City Hall ?? OIf so, where ??Ed Issler
in response to lauralbi1:
In responding to your asbove comment, I did not vote for the design being considered. I actually voted for the design that provided the most clearance for boats. Kind of a "self serving" vote. I, personally, do not care what type of replacement bridge gets built, just so long as the bridge is replaced.I would love to see an accounting of the $2 million you reference in your blog. Is this available at City Hall ?? OIf so, where ??Ed Issler
If the $2M is not accounted for, and available to public scrutiny, this becomes a very serious problem, and not simply “Money Under the Bridge”.
Let’s hope someone in charge responds to your question.
in response to WMissow: 26, Please do not be too sure that Realtor's have much of a fiduciary responsibility. If they do, it is limited. What a buyer or seller believes about Realtors may not be that accurate. The Realtors are limited to what the seller tells them and possibly some research. Their verification of information is minimal. If the seller gives them incomplete or incorrect information on a listing, there is very little you can do to the Realtor and in many cases, very little you can do to the potential seller. This is even if you go to contract. Contracts are broken all of the time for some missed bit of information. That is why you need a reputable title company or lawyer to VERIFY everything before you go to closing.
in response to WMissow:
26,
Please do not be too sure that Realtor's have much of a fiduciary responsibility. If they do, it is limited. What a buyer or seller believes about Realtors may not be that accurate.
The Realtors are limited to what the seller tells them and possibly some research. Their verification of information is minimal. If the seller gives them incomplete or incorrect information on a listing, there is very little you can do to the Realtor and in many cases, very little you can do to the potential seller. This is even if you go to contract. Contracts are broken all of the time for some missed bit of information.
That is why you need a reputable title company or lawyer to VERIFY everything before you go to closing.
Fiduciary and Reputable are two words quickly forgotten when the word Greed supersedes them.
I have been following the attached Blog for years, and you will be amazed how many Professionals, who claim to be Reputable, place money first.
http://mortgagefraudblog.com/
ED,
I believe the people participating in this dialogue, including Commissioner Honig, are trying to get a NORMAL BRIDGE built at reasonable cost, that allows traffic, and people, to cross the waterway that goes to and from your area, and not an overpriced "Work of Art".
The people responsible for spending the two million to date need to be held responsible for their poor judgment.
WMissow:
“I guess when it is too good to be true, the uneducated jump to be first in line and are always the ones hurt.”
Your statement above is true, and is the reason Buyers and Sellers rely on Realtors licensed by the State, to protect their interests, because they believe the Realtors have a Fiduciary responsibility to do so, as defined below.
“An individual in whom another has placed the utmost trust and confidence to manage and protect property or money. The relationship wherein one person has an obligation to act for another's benefit.”
Unfortunately, in some cases, the need, and in others, the greed, win over the Rule every time.
In other parts of the World, Germany for example, Realtors work on salary, not commission, which eliminates the Greed Factor, and increases incentive to do the right thing, or be fired.
Speaking of Realtors, let us not forget “Those Realtors” who profited greatly during the “BOOM YEARS”, 2002 to 2009, and whose Clients are still so deep under water, they will never recover their losses.
And then there are “Those Other Realtors” who profited from the Mortgage Fraud scams, are still walking around, left dozens of homes abandoned, that are being fined by Code Enforcement.
in response to Hascle: Why cant we build for $16,000 a foot similar to the Jolly Bridge as apposed to $41,000 per foot?
in response to Hascle:
Why cant we build for $16,000 a foot similar to the Jolly Bridge as apposed to $41,000 per foot?
It's a good question, but it's above my pay grade.
Thank you Commissioner Honig and Marcofriend for the information.
Based on what I see, the T.Y. Lin design provides the highest bridge at the lowest cost, and should be used as a basis for the bidding process. I also wonder how much the elimination of the Arch would do to reduce the cost, unless it’s a structural component.
I assume the Contractor for the Jolly Bridge will bid on Smokehouse.
Bill Harris,
Your analysis of this issue is correct, and ties to the earlier article by Commissioner Honig.
Until real numbers are published on the replacement vs. repairs, the entire matter remains mute.
I asked Commissioner Honig, in his last letter, to publish the cost per lineal foot of comparable existing bridges on our Island over the last few years.
Once “We the People” see the difference in the numbers compared to the five bridges under consideration, the choice become as simple as ABC.
I have no idea who authorized, and why, two million has been wasted on “Designs”, but that is who the person, or persons the bridge should be named after, and we can refer to it a Monument to Stupidity.
in response to gladesgator: Why Honig and not the whole commission?
in response to gladesgator:
Why Honig and not the whole commission?
Because Honig is the author of this letter.
I don't care who releases the information as long as "We the People" get to see it.
I'm still waiting for Councilman Honig to respond to my request to post costs per lineal foot for new comparable bridges on the Island, so "We the People" can see the difference, if any, to the proposed cost for the Smokehouse Bridge.
You mean there was a restaurant parking meeting held without any input from Joey "O"???
in response to captnjimbo: I think 951 used to be a State highway but most signs now say "county 951" I think.
in response to captnjimbo:
I think 951 used to be a State highway but most signs now say "county 951" I think.
And I think County 951 became our problem when we became a City.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: Any inch clearance more is an increase of the property value by a couple of $$$ 10 000.13ft. is not enough for 30 ft. boats or bigger.Space for average fly bridge boats or cruiser 40 to 60 ft. will be graet. That will improve Marco Island as boater community.
in response to KlausStoertebeker:
Any inch clearance more is an increase of the property value by a couple of $$$ 10 000.13ft. is not enough for 30 ft. boats or bigger.Space for average fly bridge boats or cruiser 40 to 60 ft. will be graet. That will improve Marco Island as boater community.
Klaus,
First of all, the lots in the section of Marco affected by the Smokehouse Bridge are not wide enough to accommodate large boats.
Second, the higher the bridge becomes, the longer it must be to meet slope requirements mandated by the ADA, and other government agencies.
in response to LadueVGilleo: I'm not trying to start a fight, but what is the source of your information? This is one source of my information: http://www.cato.org/publications/comm...
in response to LadueVGilleo:
I'm not trying to start a fight, but what is the source of your information?
This is one source of my information:
http://www.cato.org/publications/comm...
Thank you for bringing this intelligent article to this Blog.
It is the "Truth and Nothing but the Truth" about how this Once Great Country went down hill.
The falsely inflated real estate prices during the 2002 to 2008 period were, and still are, a major problem. The inflated prices reflected on the taxable values of all homes, and allowed our government to increase their budgets, which need to be re-adjusted back to reality.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: The clearance is important. 20" and more means more value for indirect acces properties.
The clearance is important. 20" and more means more value for indirect acces properties.
Don't you think Twenty (20) Inches is a little on the low side for a Bridge???????
in response to WizeOlMarco: "Not to make this a political statement, but the election and re-election of Obama is a perfect example, and it will require many years to correct the wrongs he is imposing on this Once Great Nation." Political statement.
in response to WizeOlMarco:
"Not to make this a political statement, but the election and re-election of Obama is a perfect example, and it will require many years to correct the wrongs he is imposing on this Once Great Nation."
Political statement.
Can you think of a better example???
If so, lets hear it.
When “We the People” elect people to office, regardless if it’s a Condo Assoc., City, County, State or Federal office, we expect them to what is best for us, and our hard earned money.
Unfortunately, in most cases, the opposite happens, and we blame them, instead of looking in the mirror to see who is really at fault.
Not to make this a political statement, but the election and re-election of Obama is a perfect example, and it will require many years to correct the wrongs he is imposing on this Once Great Nation.
Our newly elected Council is faced the problem of correcting poor decisions made by previous Councils, and “We the People” need to support them.
Councilman Honig,
Could you find out how much the Winterberry and S Barfield cost per lineal foot so a comparison can be made to the estimated $11M cost for the Smokehouse Bridge????
If so, please post the numbers here for "We the People" to see.
In response to "The problems that are faced":
1. The seawall is not a structural component of the bridge.
2. The money that was spent was wasted, and adding insult to injury will not help.
Maybe we could stick to the Lavish Bridge Design, and ask the IRS to give us back some of our stolen money, since they are big on Lavish Spending:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/...
From what I understand, the “the 12 million work of art proposed a few years ago” is still on the table, and will be built.
If this is true, and our new Council is powerless to do exactly what Mr. Honig is suggesting, and we blow 12 million, then the entire re-election process was a waste of time.
Regardless of the present condition of the Smokehouse Bridge, two approaches need to be studied: 1. Bids taken for repairs, and, 2. Replacement using a Standard Bridge Design, not a “Work of Art”.
Then the “Funding Part” can be planned based on real numbers, and not some dream project.
If some people want the “Artsy Crafty” look, maybe the new bridge can be painted to match the Art Building on Winterberry.
Here is one Politico who is standing up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lona-0...
Where are the rest of them????
Has anyone noticed how many "Politicos" from both sides have stood up for a complete overhaul of our tax system???
Seems like they have as much to fear from the "Gestapos" as the rest of us "Once Free Americans".
Correction: I meant WAS in foreclosure.
I thought the Council members who are in the foreclosure process, and spending our money recklessly, were voted out, but now I see another problem involving a Big Spender, who works for “We the People".
in response to WMissow: Soundman, The Smokehouse Bridge appears to be a safety issue, or we have been told that it is. I do not believe that a referendum is needed when health and safety issues are involved. The Mackle Park issue is a rather small interest group issue, does not appear to be health and safety related (unless, of course, council gets to spin it that way) and should be put up for referendum.
Soundman,
The Smokehouse Bridge appears to be a safety issue, or we have been told that it is. I do not believe that a referendum is needed when health and safety issues are involved.
The Mackle Park issue is a rather small interest group issue, does not appear to be health and safety related (unless, of course, council gets to spin it that way) and should be put up for referendum.
The Smokehouse Bridge is just another example of how our previous Council spent money without any concern for "We the People".
The Bridge was not declared unsafe, but is in need of repairs, but from what I understand the "Monument to Stupidity" will be built anyway at a cost three time as much as the Jolly Bridge, and shut down Collier Blvd. for who knows how long.
As Confusius once said: "When Rape is Inevitable, Lay Down and Enjoy It"
Here is another alternative to texting while driving. If you have an accident you will end up with more than just a stiff neck.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/document...
What is the difference between texting and using the screen in the center of the dash board in new cars to use the radio, CD player, A/C, etc.???, plus, not to mention the many buttons on the steering wheel.
It's to the point where a pilot and a co-pilot are needed to drive a car.
What Marco needs is a Brainey-ack like Uncle Ben to handle our finances and screw us up just like he is doing to Our Once Great Country.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05...
1P:The definition of the word “TRADITION”.tra•di•tion noun \trə-ˈdi-shən\
1. a : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice or a social custom) b : a belief or story or a body of beliefs or stories relating to the past that are commonly accepted as historical though not verifiable 2.: the handing down of information, beliefs, and customs by word of mouth or by example from one generation to another without written instruction 3: cultural continuity in social attitudes, customs, and institutions 4: characteristic manner, method, or style <in the best liberal tradition>
I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE HOW MANY OF OUR POLITICOS ON BOTH SIDE OF THE ISLE OF THE GONAGS TO EVEN MENTION A FLAT TAX.
BOTTOM LINE: IT’S TIME TO BREAK “TRADITION”, PERIOD.
Continued:
This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous. Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks voted for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple. The downside of this is that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites. The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama's detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites.. The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960's. Obama will set the clock back decades. America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America, and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations. It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president . Michael A. Haberman, M.D.
Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still a nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama's lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month. A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power. A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election was like no other in the history of America. The issues were insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self-serving and selfish. Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined.
When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don't know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse "Obama's early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations, "says Vaknin. "Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant two years old. Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia , a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white) grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. "She died of cancer in 1995." One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and does not deserve their attention. If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The "present" vote is a safe vote. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him. Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations. The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father.
This should start an interesting discussion:
Israeli doctor says Obama has a mental disorder. Labels him a pathological narcissist. Written by Dr.Michael A. Haberman, M.D.
Israeli doctor says Obama has a mental disorder. Labels him a pathological narcissist and there is no greater insanity than electing one as President said Dr. Sam Vaknin who is an Israeli psychologist. Interesting view on our president. Dr. Vaknin States "I must confess I was impressed by Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident, a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama's speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such quasi "religious" impact on so many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with Zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects." Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes "Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist." Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama's language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest friends suggest that the man is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People's Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom.
I hate to repeat myself, but, "Can we please stick to the IRS story, and consider this event as the best reason ever to convert to a FLAT TAX, and do away with the IRS."
Or, is everyone on this Blog, (except 1P & Klaus), afraid to speak up because you fear the IRS Gustavo will break down your front door and take everything you worked all your life for.
Welcome to the Once Great America!!!!
Can we please stick to the IRS story, and consider this event as the best reason ever to convert to a FLAT TAX, and do away with the IRS.
in response to happyhorowitz34145: Actually Mr. 26, the "spawling" that has occured and is occuring is a severe structual problem. The now "concerned" settlement of the bridge abutment on the north side with the possible placement of pilings is a severe structual problem, starting with the engineering design that was accepted by the "city" and built by a "not so good construction company" as quote by the Phoney PHD!
in response to happyhorowitz34145:
Actually Mr. 26, the "spawling" that has occured and is occuring is a severe structual problem. The now "concerned" settlement of the bridge abutment on the north side with the possible placement of pilings is a severe structual problem, starting with the engineering design that was accepted by the "city" and built by a "not so good construction company" as quote by the Phoney PHD!
Like I said before, I did not see the scope of work, or inspect the problems, so I assume you are correct, and have a similar construction background to mine.
The Devil is always in the details, and if we have people doing inspections who are not familiar with them, we will continue to see issues with City projects as simple as new sidewalks.
in response to WMissow: 26, Could you explain what poor inspection is as it requires closing the bridge for 3 to 4 weeks? I hope it doesn't mean that they did not take enough pictures during construction ;-). Something is wrong that it will take that long to repair, don't you think?
Could you explain what poor inspection is as it requires closing the bridge for 3 to 4 weeks?
I hope it doesn't mean that they did not take enough pictures during construction ;-).
Something is wrong that it will take that long to repair, don't you think?
I have not seen a scope of work for the project, and base my assumption on the above remarks by happyhorwitz34145.
For example, the “shoddy concrete work” is a result of the rebar not being coated, and set to high in the concrete. The concrete coverage over steel rebar is a minimum of 1.5 inches to prevent salt from coming in contact with the steel which causes the steel to rust and swell resulting in spawling.
This item, and the others mentioned are a result of “shoddy inspection”, and could have been prevented.
I'm sure he will live large for the rest of his life on "We the Peoples" tax funded pension, just like the rest of the leaches.
in response to happyhorowitz34145: The repairs are due to the construction company that the city first hired to build the bridge.Poor attempts of trying to bond hot top to concrete on the approach ramps, shoddy concrete work causing spawling to occur and expose rebar, concrete sidewalks settling or breakin apart, and erosion on the sides of the sidewalks due to poor planning and engineering.All this at a cost to taxpayers at a cost of 100K plus.The seawall at the base of the bridge is also being repaired due to poor work.Also, Barfield Dr. in the original bid (according to the city website)was to never be closed to thru traffic dduring the repairs.
The repairs are due to the construction company that the city first hired to build the bridge.Poor attempts of trying to bond hot top to concrete on the approach ramps, shoddy concrete work causing spawling to occur and expose rebar, concrete sidewalks settling or breakin apart, and erosion on the sides of the sidewalks due to poor planning and engineering.All this at a cost to taxpayers at a cost of 100K plus.The seawall at the base of the bridge is also being repaired due to poor work.Also, Barfield Dr. in the original bid (according to the city website)was to never be closed to thru traffic dduring the repairs.
None of the problems you are sighting are “Structural”, but rather a result of poor inspection practices during the construction process, which I assume falls on the shoulders of someone working for the City.
The same non-structural problems exist with the Smokehouse Bay Bridge which “We the People” are about to spend over $11M to replace it.
Even if it cost ten times as much to repair the Smokehouse Bay Bridge that is being spent on the Barfield bridge, “We the People” will save $10M, and not be taking a detour for over one year.
Dimas Maldanado was not just a “Naples Man”, because he was a hard working “Marco Man” as well.
In fact, Dimas was on his way to work the midnight shift as a Bellman at the Marriott, where he has been employed for 20 years, or so, and leaves two children behind.
He will be missed by his family, hotel staff, and guests as well.
The driver responsible for this tragedy needs to be held accountable for his untimely death.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: Who is the Marco Pizza King? Gino?
Who is the Marco Pizza King? Gino?
NO.
I wonder if Chucky Cheese has consulted with the Marco Pizza King for recommendations.
I don't know what you mean by my "interpretation". There is nothing open to "interpretation", because BHO’s actions speak louder than words.
As far as your comment that BHO didn’t know anything about HST because he wasn’t born at the time, reflects directly on his lack of education.
Now that we agree on something, can we also agree that President Reagan, who also helped Germany by tearing down the Berlin Wall, was the best Republican President during our time??
Also, how can you compare the actions and spending habits of HST to your unsung hero BHO, who spends more of our money on one vacation than HST spent in his entire lifetime???
As HST said, "The Buck Ends Here", but how did he know it would be named BHO who would do it??
in response to 1Paradiselost: I agree with your comment! Unfortunately under rated by historians. What are we going to do about this undrinkable water this city is selling us?
in response to 1Paradiselost:
I agree with your comment! Unfortunately under rated by historians.
What are we going to do about this undrinkable water this city is selling us?
The water is like everything else all of our Government agencies shove down our throats, and tell us it's for our own good.
About all anyone can do is filter, boil or drink bottled water, which, by the way, you have no clue what is in it either.
Hopefully you have a well at your place up North.
This is a story about the last great Democrat President we have had in our Once Great Country:
Most people won't believe this happened, but it DID. Harry & Bess (This seems unreal.) Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many, or more important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 42 Presidents preceding him. However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he left the White House.
The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence Missouri. His wife had inherited the house from her mother and father and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.
When he retired from office in 1952 his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year.
After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There was no Secret Service following them.
When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."
Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."
As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.
Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today, many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale. Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a woman of allegedly ill repute house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!"
I say dig him up and clone him!
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