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in response to August8: Who's the old guard, name um?
in response to August8:
Who's the old guard, name um?
You know them. You sat in a meeting with a few the other day.
Just my 2 cents, from what I read and saw , Liz Carr did the marco island two step. It was the city who screwed this up. After she talked to the city attorney she deflected her mistake. Watch for another court case.
Remember when the city tried to manage this issue before. It cost us money and court cost for that past stupidty.
in response to Genuine: To those that chose to denigrate OUR police force, may I suggest you get some cheese to go with your whine. MIPD deserves our respect 24/7. It appears that some of you would like to sky dive wearing a parachute made by the low bidder.
in response to Genuine:
To those that chose to denigrate OUR police force, may I suggest you get some cheese to go with your whine. MIPD deserves our respect 24/7. It appears that some of you would like to sky dive wearing a parachute made by the low bidder.
I do not know where you get your info. This department has 3 pending civil law suites, has terminated 2 superior officers for their job performance, and numerous car accidents, one of which sent a resident to the ICU. It seems to me that maybe this agency is a low bid unit!
Considering all the problems here on Marco, I see this as a silly waste of time.
in response to MarianB: The problem was there was very little publicity put out about this. Nobody I know knew anything about it until today. If you want people to show up go see the papers, radio and tv and ask them to do a story,,come on Steff this ain't brain surgery
in response to MarianB:
The problem was there was very little publicity put out about this. Nobody I know knew anything about it until today. If you want people to show up go see the papers, radio and tv and ask them to do a story,,come on Steff this ain't brain surgery
The real problem was that the same group of Marco windbags have run these events into the ground. Every week they run an event but they always put themselves out front instead of the cause.
Shame on you Donna. You knew that the cameras were placed in high traffic locations and not in high accident intersections. Further you lead the change for the summons to include right turn on red violations when their were too few red light tickets. And finally when a citizen proved that the county was changing the timing on the light so to generate more summons, you said nothing. Just another hidden tax!
in response to KlausStoertebeker: What I can not understand is: How can City Council can say YES! GO! and MICA NO! Stop!If MICA has all the power, City Council can not approve this subject at all.Government mismanagement?
in response to KlausStoertebeker:
What I can not understand is: How can City Council can say YES! GO! and MICA NO! Stop!If MICA has all the power, City Council can not approve this subject at all.Government mismanagement?
Good point, and many of us have said it for years!
Just my take, this could be a real battle. Drove by today and twice as many workers are there than last week.
Note to Mr Honig. The city staff is being over used. I had to go to the city for a permit. At that meeting were 5 city employees plus 2 city board members. Talk about being over used. And 2 other city employees refused to be at the meeting. This for a silly one day event. Heaven help us if it was something serious!
First Wayne, who wrote this for you? You sat as a councilman for 4 years and never had a clue. Remember unfunded pensions. That was explained to you and Gibson at least 3 times by city staff. Thank goodness the council meeting are on TV. The whole city got to see YOU in action. Or lack of!
I as well as many other Marco residents carried an assault weapon in Vietnam. They do not belong here. I understand hunting as well as target shooting. But I find it hard to understand owning an M16. Just my take.
Always remember, the Chamber attempted to join the city in a law suite against the citizens over the STRP.
in response to August8: Don't know what a looker is???? What, are you 90?
Don't know what a looker is???? What, are you 90?
If anyone wonder why nothing productive happens at MIPD, your statements have said it all.
in response to dc5799: What about running into other female officers?
in response to dc5799:
What about running into other female officers?
How about running into female residents! I guess that thought never happened.
in response to lauralbi1: Mr Breeze: You really need to look at the plans that Deltona had for this Island. For if you did, you would see much more development, MORE schools, more businesses that what are here already and certainly nothing that resembles a retirement community.I do, however, agree that there is room for all of us to get what we want out of this Island Paradise. I certainly hope that the new Council members always remember that they represent all of us. If not, we can only hope that as a 7 member Council that the majority votes in a manner that represents a vision that moves our Island forward.Ed Issler
in response to lauralbi1:
Mr Breeze: You really need to look at the plans that Deltona had for this Island. For if you did, you would see much more development, MORE schools, more businesses that what are here already and certainly nothing that resembles a retirement community.I do, however, agree that there is room for all of us to get what we want out of this Island Paradise. I certainly hope that the new Council members always remember that they represent all of us. If not, we can only hope that as a 7 member Council that the majority votes in a manner that represents a vision that moves our Island forward.Ed Issler
Ed, when I see you breaking bread with Magil at the country club, then I will believe your rant.
Now look into the 400k fire boat that does NOT have fire fighting ability. Its clearly a rescue boat, and the past council should have known it.
Considering that Kiester and Magil gave the city manager a new 2 year contract prior to the election, I guess the smart thing to do was keep him not pay him to do nothing like THEY did before with Thompson.
Consider all the work done inside the firehouse next to the water dept. and not one permit being pulled. Well maybe the next step will be counting the nails used.
Wayne this has been your problem since you were elected. Your ideas are all over the place. A consultant will say what ever you pay him to say and you know this!
Now I see why Magil wants Gibson, No education, no experience and without someone pulling his strings, no answers.
By retiring, does he now collect a pension too?
Come on Monte. You live in a condo, get lower water, sewage rates, and re-cycled water for irrigation. You have been put on numerous boards by the current council to make sure that the Marriott convensation center goes through. You vote for the strp so we can now have a new hotel come in. While all the time your wife was on the chamber of commerce. Finally because two friends have problem with sea wall construction you cracked down on them. But people who live on Landmark Rd. will see more construction from the new Marriott parking garage than they will ever imagine.
Trust Magel? Why will he not tell of a settlement with a terminated employee, to be revealed after the election. How about back pay and his job reinstated!
Here you see your tax dollars in action. The highest paid members of the city feeding their faces on your dime, holding hands with the senior citizens and telling stories from the old days.
Joe we all thought that you were a fool, but now you prove it to the whole Island. I am sure that Magel, Gibson, and Recker must be proud.
At least Gibson can finally lead the Christmas boat parade in this baby!
Ed you have a dog or business in this fight. You left out how your candidates want to all but double the size of the Marriott. This convention center would add to local traffic, use of city services and congestion. But, would help your business inside the hotel. Maybe thats why the strp was planned on such a grand scale.
Laurie, one question, where does Gibson live? If people in city hall don't know I doubt you do.
I can not believe the spinning in this letter. You lead the charge at Island Drug which now we find is in Federal court with a law suit against the city. Gangs coming to Marco? Your own staff, a Supervisor at the police openly laugh at this. You have changed your position so many times that one gets dizzy listening to you speak. You lead the oster of the public works head, giving him a golden parachute, only to see him appointed to the code board. You supported the fees for re-usable water while knowing that the largest user is the country club where a fellow councilman is the president.
Considering that Recker and Gibson have voted to purchase a fire boat with no idea of the final cost worries me. They may say that the cost is set. But the chief now states over 400K. Further your two friends have led Marco into more lawsuits over the last 2 years than since our existance.
Note to Gibson about the fireboat. First and most important, how did the price for this start at 250K and then go to 400K, and now the fire chief states over 400K? Is this your leadership skill?
Let us set the record straight. You are the same Joe Granda who stood in front of an open council meeting and questioned both Recker and Gibson of undermining you and the code board. Remember their is video of your childess rant.
in response to soundman: every 2 years russ columbo beats his gums on his picks. many of us wait for this and go the opposite way
in response to soundman:
every 2 years russ columbo beats his gums on his picks. many of us wait for this and go the opposite way
And we spend more and more and go more in debit. Ask Recker why he won't talk about the Island Drug settlement. And why the past police chief who lead this mess is stocking selves in publics. Why 400K for a fire dept. boat that Naples paid 275k? Lawsuits and self insured Marco!
Mr Magil tell the real story. First any member at the country club knows that you raise the rates for the water after assuring them that you would not. Remember your talk at Hidaway?Next please tell the other candidates about your e mail on how you are are bullet voting in only Recker and Gibson . Yes Gibson the wheres Waldo candidate who most people at city hall question where he lives. I think that most condo owners have seen your game before, and this time around are far smarter.
What I saw of Magel was a scared, angry old man. He clearly does not care about the residents. As for the utility bills, it was he and the current council who cause this problem.
in response to lauralbi1: Mrs Enman: No surprise as to your LTE./ Just curious if you would list, in response, the "experience" you reference. Utility Boards and MITA are certainly not a part of the list as the Marco Island Property Owners Association would not be. So I am curious.Not that existing Councilors have more or less other than the 4 years they have served.Also, please let me know if you have read all the documentation available at City Hall regarding the Water Utility purchase, including the Engineer's Report, etc. Just indicate when you want to meet at City Hall and I will join you and we can go over it together, line by line.There should be no "hidden agenda" or mystery after you are done reading all the reports.Look forward to meeting you in person at City Hall.Just let me know the time, below, and will see you then. It probably will take 20-30 hours, in total, to review all the documents.Ed Issler
Mrs Enman: No surprise as to your LTE./ Just curious if you would list, in response, the "experience" you reference. Utility Boards and MITA are certainly not a part of the list as the Marco Island Property Owners Association would not be. So I am curious.Not that existing Councilors have more or less other than the 4 years they have served.Also, please let me know if you have read all the documentation available at City Hall regarding the Water Utility purchase, including the Engineer's Report, etc. Just indicate when you want to meet at City Hall and I will join you and we can go over it together, line by line.There should be no "hidden agenda" or mystery after you are done reading all the reports.Look forward to meeting you in person at City Hall.Just let me know the time, below, and will see you then. It probably will take 20-30 hours, in total, to review all the documents.Ed Issler
No hidden agenda? Why will the council not talk about the pending settlement of a businesses lawsuit? Why will they not tell the public about the return of a fired employee who will be also getting back pay? Why are these issues being held til after the election?
Dealing with the city is as clear as mud. Employees and boards do what they want and the public is left more confused than ever.
Its hard to watch as an angry man just impodes in front you. This bully brought us Celebrate Marco and some of the most devisive years this island ever saw. Both you and Issler are begging for attention. It now has just become sad. I guess even Gibson and Waldack don't return your calls.
Here comes another lawsuit. The city had no witnesses, allowed hearsay testamony, and the cities own attorney admitted HE violated city ordiances. You can not make this stuff up.
in response to lauralbi1: Well, here we have blogs of 10 people who were voting for Mr Pettricia anyway, Carol. Please be assured that your comments and your vision for Marco is that shared by the vast majority over the last 3 elections. We can only hope that people turn out and vote as the more voters there are the better the odds are that Mr Recker, Gibson, Honig and ? will be elected and maintain the progress and vision that their constituents voted them in for.There are a solid 2,000 votes for Mr. Sacher, Perttrici and Hoenecker. That still leaves 11,000 votes (assumin 100% voting). If we get a 70-75% turnout, there should be no porblems with the outcome, based on what the voters have expressed in the last elections.Please make sure to get everyone you know to vote!!!!!Your Letter is right to point. This election is a matter of the vision for the future of Marco Island.Ed Issler
Well, here we have blogs of 10 people who were voting for Mr Pettricia anyway, Carol. Please be assured that your comments and your vision for Marco is that shared by the vast majority over the last 3 elections. We can only hope that people turn out and vote as the more voters there are the better the odds are that Mr Recker, Gibson, Honig and ? will be elected and maintain the progress and vision that their constituents voted them in for.There are a solid 2,000 votes for Mr. Sacher, Perttrici and Hoenecker. That still leaves 11,000 votes (assumin 100% voting). If we get a 70-75% turnout, there should be no porblems with the outcome, based on what the voters have expressed in the last elections.Please make sure to get everyone you know to vote!!!!!Your Letter is right to point. This election is a matter of the vision for the future of Marco Island.Ed Issler
Yes lets vote for Gibson. Does not pay city taxes, refuses to tell people IF he lives on Marco, voted to purchase a 450K fire boat that Naples brough for 275K.
John, you and Issler always changed history to suit yourselves. The complaint going back to when you were a one term councilman were that you had no idea how to fund BOTH the purchase of the water system plus the cost of the STRP. Lets remind people how you and other council people stated that people come and go from Marco all the time and the STRP will be paid off in 7 years. When the economy crashed what became clear to most residents was that the city had taken on two major expenses with little idea how to pay for them. What has become clear is that we had the tax base for one project. Now the taxpayer will be paying twice for your mistake. We are paying for both projects via our water bills. No matter how you or Issler continue to put lipstick on this pig, its a pig. I guess you both will continue with these childess personal attacks, but I think most people see through this.
in response to marcoislander: So much crime on Marco that they have to bring up headlines from over a month ago I think the police dept has their priorities mixed up What i would like to know is how many recorded thefts to how many solved
in response to marcoislander:
So much crime on Marco that they have to bring up headlines from over a month ago I think the police dept has their priorities mixed up What i would like to know is how many recorded thefts to how many solved
Solved is one thing, but the eye opener is the conviction rate vs arrests. It is so low that Hunter will not talk about it.
By Baer's own comments that the sheriff had 25 officers patroling Marco. Then lets go back to the sheriff and save a load of tax payer money.
Having watched Gibson at the council meetings, he does not understand what an unfunded pension is. At two meeting this point had to be re-explained to him by city staff. Further who votes for a person who only has a post office box? Where do you live?
in response to KlausStoertebeker: "The MIPD's request for five and a half additional FTEs, or full-time equivalents, came in for scrutiny. Chief Don Hunter has proposed the institution of a special unit, a three-person "flex group" that in addition to performing regular patrol duties, can serve warrants, and surveil career criminals and gang members, who have been showing up on the island, he said." Gang? Then only gang I know is the Good Old Boys Gang drinking vodka and talk about the good old days: WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq,Gettysburg, Revolution war! Nice gang!
"The MIPD's request for five and a half additional FTEs, or full-time equivalents, came in for scrutiny. Chief Don Hunter has proposed the institution of a special unit, a three-person "flex group" that in addition to performing regular patrol duties, can serve warrants, and surveil career criminals and gang members, who have been showing up on the island, he said."
Gang? Then only gang I know is the Good Old Boys Gang drinking vodka and talk about the good old days: WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq,Gettysburg, Revolution war! Nice gang!
I for one, do not remember any good old days in Vietnam. I lost many friends there.
in response to woozygirl: A few more dollars a year would be worth it.
in response to woozygirl:
A few more dollars a year would be worth it.
Ok, you pick the current city employees to be laid off to cover the expense of this PRIVATE business. I doubt that anyone on the council will do that. At some point the spending has to stop.
Note to Baer. Considering that the former chief is stocking selves in the pubics on Marco, consider yourself lucky to be a "charter member" of the Marco PD.
Why 2 people running a mom and pop business? Both collecting big pay checks for doing the same job. Can we ever get a manager who runs the city like a really business?
in response to Genuine: Get back to us when you learn to spell. As regarding the council, use your right to vote. Concerning Chief Hunter's compensation; why don't you muster up the courage and go to headquarters and ask him in person.
Get back to us when you learn to spell. As regarding the council, use your right to vote. Concerning Chief Hunter's compensation; why don't you muster up the courage and go to headquarters and ask him in person.
I too must agree. Have attempted to meet with the chief only to find he is not in. Seems to either be at meetings or seminars. He does later return calls but I also wish he lived here not in Norh Naples.
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