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Hascle, that is easy to say until it is a member of your family dead on your home residential street. I like the idea of check points coming and going on 951 between US 41. I am all for it bring it on.
This was totally unacceptable and has to stop. Send a warning out this will not be tolerated.
To be killed like that is just hard to believe.
RayN I hope you are right. I see this as high stakes for the island. Wolf in sheeps clothing it could be. Hard to fight big money and win. I have been down that road before.
The bad part is if they do build it and it does not work out the island is still saddled with it. Like any other venture gone bad the real estate remains as a reminder of poor planning.
I hope MICA has some power left....
ajm3s I do believe it will take a very large "push back" from the residents however many of us, myself included cannot vote due to residency on the island. This is where the lack of true votes comes in.
In the end I believe it will happen. The MICA rules have been broken thanks to the putt-putt which set the stage for the main show the Marriott.
Marriott Island it is. The torch of Deltona and Mackle Bros. will soon go out. There is just to much money behind it to stop it from happening.
Ajm3s I think the "Planning Board" is well aware what direction they are titing the island towards. I warned this with the bridge expansion.
Klaus, I remember when you were in favor of the new High School you said anyone against it was yesterday thinker. How is it this project has changed your opinion?
I know you have been on the island for a long time but I do believe you also supported the Putt-Putt also? I warned everyone the island would be "forever changed" and this project might just be the one to do it.
August, I would be in favor of all DUI checks on Marco Island anytime of day or night. I would also be in favor in any and all testing that would show the driver to be impaired be it any substance.
I would have a zero tolerence position for these offenders also.
To be killed on your own street is just not right.
Tikihut, Stay in Jersey where they can't stand visitors only want your money. Your post confirms that. The majority of Marco Island wants to remain the same not to bring your Jersey style here.
Wake up people this is the type of thinking that will ruin the place forever.
I warned you when the "free bridge" was coming that was the start of it.
LEhonig, He is a refreshing idea if you quote "we have plenty of cash lying around" try not to spend it like drunken sailors on shore leave. And just maybee return value to the taxpayer of Marco Island. Sounds like something you can do?
The Mariott is under pressure for convention business which plain and simple is a diagnosis of cancer for Marco Island and the residents of the island.
Conventions bring big dollars but bring big trouble and bad elements. I have seen the small scale trouble the limited tourists bring currently. Ramp that up times ten and see what that brings.
August, no traffic enforcment will stop the lifestyle which some people will never break.
How sad that a innocent woman is killed in her own residential neighborhood.
ajm3s Again, correct on all accounts. What the Marriott is seeking in it's quest of the 21st century is to build as large as possible for as much revenue as possible. I do not believe the Marriott folks are bad people but they do need to realize when "enough is enough"
I like the ideas of keeping the PUD in order although I would allow the update of new building technology to be applied as a change.
Marco Island is not a large convention center town period.
Thank you for cleaning the beach and keeping it nice. I hope the next time I am in town I can join in a clean up.
ajm3s Now it is your turn to go to the head of the class.Right on.
Sidewalks are for people. Bikes use the street and bike lane as I do.
Miocene, anyone you dislikes animals has deep problems.
Mr. Harris Great job. Keep your "out there" comments coming as I Hope to see you run for a seat. I think folks are getting tired of hearing "present day Marco Island" and just want Marco Island as it is currently stands.
Here it comes the word "teeth" That is a dangerous word when it comes to Code/Ordinance.
Next step courthouse. Have wallet or deed ready that is how you get pushed out of the way.
I have seen folks lose property to Code/Zoning Ordinance violations as seen here the fines out way the value of the property and the legal costs skyrocket. I know of one where the Attorney settled his bill with a parcel of the land he represented the owner on. That is how "teeth" work.
I am all for keeping your property up to standards, but this is how they use the legal system to push you out.
August8 This may shock you but I am ok with the 11.00 bucks. My concern is when it goes to 15.00 then 20.00 where does it end????
Again, you make valid points but goverment has to get modeled after business or the end up in bankruptcy.
Here in the North where for years independent Cities were flush with cash the combination of Legacy costs, pension funds and loss of revenue have forced consolidation or go broke. It is working and not to say the Counties are running them, in some cases it is just neighboring towns combining services to stay afloat.
August8 I am not looking to create big goverment. I am looking at it in a sense that one larger team of three cities working together with three taxbase incomes not doing the same thing on their own.
I would rather see one logo on an employees shirt rather than three, After all, Collier County is already involved in all three areas.
It would just make good business sense to team up. Still have management just not so many. Still have the same amount of services but better with more efficiency.
Able to provide better service at todays costs is a hard argue to go against.
Like I say be it ego's or Fire Unions or whatever that is the hard hurdle to get over to be able to move forward with such a plan.
It is happening in many Cities and working well.
Old way, Three duplicated Chief or Directors. Regional way, One Regional Director. Same with all departments, managers then one Director. Savings huge.Money saved, have state of the art equipment and personell provide value to taxpayer.
Generally a three small City area works best for coverage. The area of Marco, Isles, and Gooodland would fit perfect.
Ajm3s Thank you!
I believe this is a great time to accomplish such a venture and I think the people of the region, Marco Island, Isles of Capri and Goodland should push for consolidation.
Just imagine how much good this could do. Regionalize the water plant, the Public Works Dept. Wastewater plant, Building, Planning, Zoning, Oridance/Code enforcement. It is endless.
The paramaters are simple create a "region" What better than the three cities that are already in the same County? That once were run by the same County? That border each other by land and water.
Create a Beach Patrol inclusive of Lifeguards and First Aid which I see is desperately needed right on the beach. Let the region collect and spend the tax dollars that otherwise would be paid as individual Cities.
Dismantle MICA, Keep the Deed restrictions permanent and managed by the Region Building and planning Authority.
Have Regional EMS and Advanced Life Support with full coverage for the Region. Hire qualified long term people not transplants looking to double dip the system for another pension. Give preference to younger candiates who grew up and trained in the area and are willing to commit to the profession.
The region could have the best equipment as costs would again be spread across the Region.
I find it puzzling the Chief of Police is writing the newspaper. For what? To convince the Taxpayers of Marco Island things are fine. They may be but it could be great, and example of the future, not just kick the can down the road.
August8, we rarely agree on anything but I believe Marco Island Police and Fire should have merged long time ago. The time is now for a start to a broader better future for this Region.
Like I said, many ego's need to be overcome to move forward with such a plan. The best part is it is a winner for both the employees and also the Taxpayers of the three areas.
Just emagine how good it could really be.
What is not talked about in this article is the new term in Public Safety called "consolidation"
That is where agencies such as Marco Island Police and Fire can have opportuntity to merge together and come out as one stronger unit with less costs and better services to the taxpayer.
I am surprised that the Chief of Police being a former Collier County Sheriff would resist this plan. Most times in other cities where this has occured the problem is there are to many upper management positions that are now duplicated after the merge.
Now lets suppose that Collier County Sheriff and Marco Island Police and Fire merged. The coverage area could be Marco Island, Isles of Capri, Goodland and to Us41. Take in account that could also include Marine operations also.
The new department would cover the waterways then the new fireboat would be justified. The cost are spread across the whole department. The coverage is expanded,costs are lowered.
The problem is many egos get in the way due to the fact that some will not allow change.
I believe that no one wants to not have Public Safety. It is where the waste of dollars are duplicated due to lack of creative thinking is where I and many others have issues.
I agree, I said that many times before with MIPD and Fire Services. Revert back to the County and save the place while there is still time.
Make the bridge a toll (residents free) give the money to the County to operate Marco Island and there will be more than enough money to LOWER property taxes. Cut out the waste and the drama. Run it like it should be run.
I believe Collier County can and would do a fine job.
Let us not forget that the island is not occupied by taxpayers that can vote due to it is not yet our permanent home thus the scales are tipped. I think if all "landowners and taxpayers" could vote then it would be fair but I do not see that happening.
Furthermore, this is the job of the City Council to protect all of our Quality of life on the island.
Dude, you know nothing. Anyone who would hurt the animals then quote the bible I think you are the "sick puppy" here.
More like a coward to me.
Spoken like a true Ahole. Maybee a hand around your miserable neck might help your frustration.
In all reality, I think we have made this position way to important. The City should be run by the City Council that the people elect. Day to day operations need to be supervised by a manager. What is the big challenge here????
26years Agree, totally Agree.
Oldmarcoman Greed and Hype ruined property values. Ever heard of "to much of a good thing"?
Wmissow, I agree. I also spoke at the City Council meeting asking questions about STRP even though my home was not effected by the project. I thought it was time that they could have made the project more a plus to the community if they were to also provide wastewater for irrigation along with the sewer. Also there was a study that left the septic tanks in place but instead of a septic field a liquid only sewer line could have been installed at lower costs. I was there for those meetings so I am very aware.
The problem is going forward I am going to be the "retired person" and like anything else I hope my investment in my home brings me peace and quiet on the island. Taxpayers should not to fight to have "quality of life" to live in.
STRP was part of the big picture for the rebuild of the island it was plain to see. The teardowns will resume and the new will overcome the old if nothing is done to stop it.
I say all Deltona homes should be protected by historical zoning. That will put the brakes on.
Create the "Deltona Zone"
Hey Liberator, Why don't you call me "user" "bloodsucker" and always after a free lunch.
Lets face facts pal. I have owned a unoccupied home for over 10 years. That means I have supported you and the other full time residents for over 10 years. That includes tax bills, water bills, landscaping, power bills, home maintence.
I would like to see you do the same before you start call names friend. Lets see what you contribute to the island. Myself and many others who do the same to support mooches like you should just pull out before your kind ruin the place for good.
And furthermore, I think your kind need to hit the bridge on a one way out before my kind.
My kind spends and pays, your kind takes and uses.
Mr. Uhler, The train left the station when the "new free bridge" was constructed.
It was easy to see as zoning and planning is always looked out in a five or ten year period.
Next will come the teardown of any last residential structures on Collier Blvd. in order assemble commercial properties. I see the areas of Collier and sixth ave as being one of the first to assemble right to Elkam.
Collier Blvd. will be tourist alley. Might as well get ready unless a very large "pushback" by the citizens and taxpayers of Marco Island takes place.
I hate to repeat myself but go back and see what I said during that time I said "the island would change forever" and I am afaid I was right.
Yes, Ed and his wife have a shop at the Marriott.
It always amazes me that this type of hidden agenda surfaces. Then what happens after the place is ruined the people who gleaned off it leave. Then the poor sucker who just wanted what they thought they would enjoy are left in the dust. I have seen this so many times over it is sick. Greed is a disease and a bad one.
The truth about Planning and Zoning is most people ignore it until it directly effects them then it becomes a crisis.
I warned you people when everone embraced the new "free bridge" this is all part of the plan to turn this island into one big tourist trap.
As I said before if you have a lot of money you might be able to stay but if not start packing you will be moving and very well may want to.
Marco69 is that the same "worldly people" who are to cheap to pay to park so they park on the swales after reading on the net how to get away with it.
Or is the same "worldly people" that when they get up at the beach they just leave a footprint of trash for someone else to clean up.
I have seen enough "wordly" people come to Marco Island.
I think also Mr. Issler was upset over swale parking in his neighborhood if I remember correctly.
Parking is not a small issue. Not all people who attend conventions use private transportation. Some people rent cars and they need a place to park be it on site off site or in Mr. Isslers swale. This is where the standoff lies.
I recently went to New York, it was 30.00 per day to park a car and that was discounted by staying at the hotel. Where would all the support vehicles park? They need offsite just for that.
Wmissow is right why should the people of Marco Island sell the place out for a mere tax break (if any). Why should the residents have to tolerate such nonsense. The Mariott is a very nice place and I am sure that the construction would be world class no doubt. It is the impact of the quality of life that it could have on the island which is the scary part.
Where is MICA on this? I believe it is far from a done deal.
Again, Mr. Issler you never answer questions that are asked of you ever notice that?
Would you sell your retirement home for the sake of growth and progress on Marco Island?
Mr. Issler Again, sir you are dead wrong. If your statements about expansions of the island and not being a "Retirement Community" then sir why are you located on Marco Island? Were you born and raised on Marco Island? Raised a family on Marco Island? Worked or owned a business on Marco Island?
Expansions on limited areas will take redevelopment. Mr. Issler would you be willing to give up your home and leave Marco Island to forward your vision of future expansions? This would allow someone or something who may be more suited utilizing your space in a more productive manner.
WMissow, You are right about the truck traffic. One of my past jobs was driving Semi for loads that went to convention centers. If the load was a specialized display I would have to either go back and pick it up or stay local until the convention was over. The bigger the convention, the more trucks arrive to unload and setup. This would be a huge impact to the island.
Remember, I said the "new bridge" had a purpose. Well this could be one of them.
Taxes will not be lower. Quality of life will be lower.
ajm3s Again, you have it right. When can we put you on the City Council to apply your thinking. The citizens of Marco Island need you.
Sounds Like a good bunch of guys.
The real answer would have been for Marco Island and the Isles of Capri to both be covered by the county with Fire and EMS but that makes to much sense. The location would be good for both and the county and the firefighters could keep jobs.
Marco Island wants to stand alone with ladder trucks and fire boats all on the back of the taxpayer. A missed deal at best could have been had by both communities. Same with the law Enforcement revert to Collier County Sheriff for the Isles and Marco Island and get rid of MIPD.
Correct me if I am wrong, but during his time was the SOH tax break developed?
26, In the City of Marco Island never. Larry, if you are telling us the facts on this blog, then what were the alledged Code Infractions? I think we would all like to know.
It is easy to guess when it is not your money.
August, settle down have a dew. Just wanted to know if the new boat was used and do not need you in the question unless you know the answer which I doubt you would know anything.
I agree, totally.
Excellent, I agree! The challenge is how do we fix it?
Was this the "New Fire Boat" in action?
Hascle, As a City Marco Island can fight any purposed development. If the Deltona Deed Restrictions do not allow the expansion then thats it over. What is there to be so scared about?
The documents speak the rules plain and simple.
Liberator100 What year were you born on Marco Island. Did you grow up with Deltona? In a Deltona home? This crap of "living on the island" is just that "crap". Zealots and mush-brains along with blinders on all have a say if they hold two little things.
A Deed and a Tax bill. Case closed.
Czar227 Agree, totally.
Profzed, First of all you not need to say that you have no say. If you own on Marco Island you have say. It does not matter if you currently live there or not. I do not and I believe I have every right as the next person.
I believe your comments are correct on the Mariott as if they do not meet the Deed Restrictions then they should be denied as I do not care how much money or influence they carry fair is fair.
Furthermore, why do we need to let this place become the tourist trap some want it to become. Keep it up prof, your comments are welcome. You have the right to them.
This is the big test case. MICA is not perfect I agree. However they are currently what we have left from Deltona, and I feel if the Putt-Putt is built against the Deed Restrictions tear it down.
A very smart Judge once told me "Cases are won or lost by the documents on which they are argued on" So if the the Deed Restrictions state no approval, the courts will say tear it down.
This again is a test case for a much larger agenda than putt-putt.
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