RayPray, I fought in Vietnam and by the tone of your ignorant post you are exactly why this country is failing (throw urine on an old vet just like they did when I returned home). Respect for the military is paramount where I come from. My Dad fought on the beaches of Normandy, I served as a PJ until I retired in 1979 and my son served in the Marine Corp in Iraq & Afghanistan (that's Corp, not Corpse as YOUR president referred to them). You and your boyfriend Klaus, whose country was liberated by the blood of Americans were probably toasting Obama when he apologized to the very countries our men died fighting to liberate.
I am amazed anyone in their right mind could vote for Obama and when Klaus called him the great one it made me vomit.
Klaus, are you a citizen of the USA or not?
Klaus, please answer my question; are you even a citizen of the United States of America? The country that I fought for? I am simply trying to ascertain if you have any stake in this election or if you are just another arrogant European. It's obvious your type of politics don't work...Europe is sinking and Obama wants the US to become part of the European Union; a one world government. Is that what you want?
And please don't skirt the issue; are you a citizen of our great nation? If not, please keep your Facist ideologies to yourself! I fought for the freedom of Americans to speak freely, not self righteous blowhard foriegners.
I didn't insult anyone, I simply asked the very outspoken Klaus a question. Additionally, if he is an historian he would see similarities in Obamas policies to that of many failed countries throughout history. Acting like Obama is the great Messah is the same way Germans acted when Hilter took power...that my friend is not an insult but a fact.
By the way, Klaus, are you even a citizen of the United States of America? Sounds to me like your political ideologies are very similar to 1939 Germany!!
Obama's version of the democratic process is where people who don't work get to choose how much taxes I have to pay to support them.
The parents that are sending their children to this school appear to be elitists that don't want their children to experience the real world. Sooner or later these kids are going to have to deal with diversity; their parents can’t protect them from minorities their whole lives. Let your children experience life... Lely is a great school while the "ACADEMY" (even the name sounds discriminatory and snobby) is a good idea in concept but has turned into a clique of wanna be elites on the island.
If the rumors are true Dana Souza will be brought back as city manager. I hope someone gets to the bottom of this and looks for possible Sunshine violations. Willing to bet there are a lot of emails between Recker, Arceri and Discuillo scheming against Mr. Thompson. Why did this need to be done with such haste? Looks like Magel and Recker are official CAVEDWELLERS! Hmmmmm…….
playballonk, Tucker didn't profit from Marco Island. When he died he was in a financial crisis like most of us. He pretty much lost his business because of politics but he still served. I didn’t see the meeting yet but who is Robert Glaub and what the heck has he ever done for Marco Island?
Fossil, I can't speak for Leroy but Putnam is a menace and should stay out of politics on Marco Island. Rest assured, you and I have not agreed in the past but I am voting for Chuck Kiester. For us Kiester supporters we want Putnam to stay away. He hasn't earned the right to attack or defend anyone on this island. His own stupidity could cost Chuck the election. He writes a LTE and then someone from the other side responds and Kiester is in the middle of turmoil the whole election. Why bring attention where it doesn't need to be. Putnam's support is not doing Kiester any good at all!! Kiester is going to get atacked this campaign and Ignoramuses like Putnam keep giving the Arceri's and Isslers of the world ammunition. The last election taught us that dirty politics (Putnam and Davies style politics) don't work. Let the Kiester attackers bury themselves, ignore them! They will only hurt themselves and their agenda.
dc, I question McMullan's military service because of his track record. I have made a couple calls to friends in the Air Force to confirm his military background and discharge status.
More importantly, why is it that you are defending people like McMullan in your blogs? It really doesn't say much for your character. I am not interested in excuses as to why McMullan has a string of newspaper articles alleging he stole from hard working people.
As far as getting emails from Arceri, maybe McMullan can help us retrieve the emails that Kiester deleted! Why didn't he go on a crusade to get Kiester's emails? Arceri sent PUBLIC emails making suggestions while Kiester deleted public records. Every citizen is entitled to send suggestions to their government. In addition, every citizen is entitled to read their city councilors city related emails...unless you're Kiester!!!!
27_Years, I went to the link you provided and was amazed. This guy actually has the nerve to put himself in the public eye. What a LOSER!
In the article he says (about Kissimmee): "My philosophy had been that I spent 21 years in the Air Force. You know, I lived in 17 different places," McMullan said, choking back tears. "Never had a chance to take roots. Never had a place to call home. That's what we did here by getting involved."
Doesn't he claim to have lived on Marco for over 30 years? How old is this guy? He is a proven liar and has cheated people out of hard earned money. He's no one I want to let manage my money. Pretty ironic that he is a self proclaimed watchdog over Marco Politics when he disgraced himself, the cities of Kissimmee and Marco Island and the Air Force.
Hey McMullan, what was your MOS in the Air Force? Were you honorably discharged? You are a disgrace to the uniform I proudly wore!!
Mr. Columbo, did it ever occur to you that you could be wrong? Don't bother answering that question because your comments prove that in your mind you could never be wrong. Your kind have done much more damage to our community than just express dessenting opinions. Comical how it always gets spun where somehow the anti-city people are the victims. They are nothing more than terrorists who throw bombs and hope they do some damage.
I sincerely do not appreciate your allusions to WWII Germany and concentration camps. The words appalling, dreadful, and despicable don’t quite seem low enough for your behavior. The common thread among the city haters is one that they are never wrong no matter what they say or do but the moment they’re called to task they cry like babies. This is a very common conduct amongst bullies.
Let’s look at the tactics and subsequent failures Mr. Columbo and his associates have used:
• Intimidation failed• Numerous law suits failed• POP failed • The recall failed • Imaginary threats of asbestos failed• H2S sensationalism failed• CARES failed• Kiester and Forcht failed• Batte, Neylon, Hall and Guidry FAILED • Attempts to harass city councilors and their families failed
All of the misinformation and lies failed because the voters are INTELLEGENT and saw through the rhetoric.
I’m sure your hate slate has other failed attempts to disrupt our fine city but I have grown very tired of all of this as the MAJORITY of Marco Island spoken! For you to say that somehow the winners and their supports, 62% of the electorate, are stupid is beyond egotistical. Moreover, for you to not congratulate the winners shows a lack of culture and class.
In psychology there is something called mirroring, it is when an individual project his or her actions onto others because they are incapable of finding fault with themselves or their delusional ideas. Time to look in the mirror Russ!!
Where does the water go after it gets treated at the wastewater treatment plant?Water gets treated to a very high standard and monitored on a real-time basis. Water that is safe to use for public irrigation gets put into reuse. Water that fails testing gets re-treated. Replacing septic systems could supply over 250 million gallons per year of reuse water to Marco Island. The South Florida Water Management District has strengthened watering restrictions. Areas with reuse water have recently been allowed to continue irrigation where others have not.Why would I want to pay monthly fees for central sewer when using my septic tank is free?Your septic tank is not free; it should be inspected and pumped every three years. Fees for pumpouts and inspections range from $250 to over $500.- - -Why should I spend thousands of dollars on hooking up to a central sewer system?If your septic system has not had regular inspections and maintenance, it will probably fail. Replacement fees range from $8,000 to $12,000. These fees can double or triple if you need to replace your drainfield or remove the old system and replace it with a performance-based system.- - -My septic system works fine; why should I hook up to a central sewer?A septic tank works by letting solids sink to the bottom of a large tank and it lets foam and detergents float to the top. Water is released from somewhere in the middle. It goes from there into a series of pipes with holes in them to allow the water through. Water gets further treated by the sand in the drainfield.Current requirements for septic systems are for two feet of unsaturated soil between the bottom of the drainfield and the groundwater. However, in systems installed prior to 1983, the requirements ranged from only six to 12 inches of separation from the groundwater. Therefore, there is concern septic systems are polluting the groundwater, which eventually discharges into the canals.- - -Should we be concerned the Marco sewer system will fail during hurricanes or heavy rains?No. Sewer systems like Marcoâ€™s separate stormwater and wastewater and are much less likely to have bad spill events even in heavy weather than systems with combined flows. Problems can be quickly addressed and cleaned up.- - -If the septic tanks are polluting the canals, where is the evidence?Unfortunately, septic tanks are not the only source of bacteria polluting the canals. Fecal coliform bacteria are generated by a number of animals, as well as humans. In addition, nitrogen comes from not only septic tanks, but also from stormwater runoff. Elevated levels of both of these have been documented in Marco canals.- - -JOAN COLFER, M.D. is the director of the Collier County Health Department. JON IGLEHART is the district director of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. CLARENCE TEARS is the director of Big Cypress Basin.
Spin this anti-swer crowd. This article in the NDN Sunday Edition just put a nail in the coffin of your candidates!
Health, water officials share facts about Marco sewer programJOAN COLFER, M.D., JON IGLEHART and CLARENCE TEARS, Special to the Daily NewsSaturday, January 19, 2008 The Marco Island Septic Tank Replacement Program questions and answers:What are the advantages of a centralized sewer system over individual septic tanks?There are several advantages:-- A central system provides controlled and monitored disposal of human waste.-- Advanced wastewater treatment systems are monitored 24 hours a day, problems with them can be quickly addressed and remedied.-- Instead of thousands of individual systems with the potential for numerous problems, there would be one central system to manage and monitor.-- The advanced wastewater treatment facility will be able to provide reuse water as an alternative water supply and reduce the city of Marco Islandâ€™s potable water demand by 12 percent.-- Advanced wastewater systems treat effluent to a much higher level than septic tanks do.-- Central wastewater systems have certified operators who can make adjustments to the treatment process.- - -Have government agencies supported the Marco Island Septic Tank Replacement Program?Yes. The Health Department has always supported the effort to put public sewers on the Island in place of individually maintained septic systems. The state has also provided funding for this project through a revolving credit line. The program has been supported by the South Florida Water Management District/Big Cypress Basin and Basin Board with a $6 million commitment over a five-year period.- - -Does the Septic Tank Replacement Program have an impact on Marco Islandâ€™s canals and waterways?Yes, many of Marco Islandâ€™s canal networks are located directly adjacent to residential areas with septic systems. Discharge of nutrients, detergents, pharmaceuticals and potentially even fecal bacteria into the groundwater is a concern for water quality and the environment, as well as public health.- - -
SmokeyJoe, accept the inevitable and accept the facts. Forget the messenger and read was Mr. Tears is saying. Why would anyone say they would cancel this program knowing that it will cost citizens so much money?We will have to pay for rate increases, some will have to pay for septic tank repairs and/or replace their septic tank and eventually our Island will have to be sewered at a much higher cost. Why waste all this money? I question how in good conscience four candidates can campaign with a platform of stopping the STRP and misinforming the community with promises that it won’t cost them anything. How can these guys do this?? People, please read the facts and stop these candidates in their tracks. I cannot afford to pay for my sewer assessment but I certainly cannot afford to pay for septic repairs or replacement and then have to pay for sewers.
STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!!!
I URGE NAYLON, HALL, GUIDRY AND BATTE TO COME CLEAN WITH THE FACTS AND STOP INFLUENCING INNOCCENT RESDIENTS INTO THINKING THEY WILL SAVE THEM MONEY.
In the meantime I will be voting fot Trotter, Recker, Gibson and Waldack!
Q. Any other concerns?A. Scientists worry about medications in the septic systems and their proximity to canals. And we don’t always test for those. Another issue is “optical brighteners,” bleach, water softeners and such. They tend not to break down in septic systems and seep into groundwater and to the waterways.Scientists sometimes use caffeine, which doesn’t break down in septic systems, as a tracer to see how quickly it gets from septics to the water.Some cases show it’s almost immediate, depending on soil types.Q. Didn’t environmental groups make grants to the city for water quality control?A. The local arm of the District Basin Board through our strategic plan identified $6 million to keep Marco on track. We gave $2 million the first year and we identified a million a year for four more years, because we know the importance of this. It’s part of our mission statement, water quality improvement and environmental enhancement.Q. Sum up your thoughts on the need, in environmental terms, to finish the sewer project.A. I just can’t understand why some don’t want to protect what they have on Marco. There’ve been horror stories on other barrier islands around the state.Honestly, Marco’s (septic) systems need to be replaced. They were a short-term fix. The State Dept. of Community Affairs has told the Island that it (septic system) is inconsistent with the city’s comprehensive plan.Marco needs to replace it. It’s either now or later. If they stop it now, people not on sewers now will have to spend money on replacing their septic systems and later, they’ll have to get sewers.The solution is a lot cheaper today than it will be tomorrow.That’s the view of Clarence Tears, director of the South Florida Water Management District. He has no financial or other personal stake in the controversy.He also has more than 20 years of expertise in water resources management.
Dear Ms. Ciaramitaro, the following article quoting an expert in the state may answer some of your questions regarding the necessity of the STRP. Marco Island needs sewers according to this expert and according to many other experts. You should question your sources, their agenda and their qualifications. How much proof do you require? I trust you will do the right thing.
News analysis: The STRP and Marco’s environmentAn expert speaks out
Thursday, January 10, 2008 If you are perplexed by the arguments for and against replacing septic systems with sewers throughout Marco Island, check out this question and answer conversation with an expert.He is Clarence Tears, director of the South Florida Water Management District. We asked about the environmental impact of sewers vs. septic systems.Q. In general, are sewers or septic systems preferable here and why?A. You need to replace those septic systems with sewers to protect the island’s environment and its beauty. One major reason is so you can monitor water quality.Even Collier County with their advanced wastewater treatment system can’t provide 100-percent re-use water, but they have checks and balances in place to protect that resource and ensure the proper disposal of the source that doesn’t meet the standards. With a utility system, throughout the day they are always monitoring and checking for water quality.Q. Septic systems are widely used in some parts of the country, so why not here on Marco?A. I’ve talked to a lot of scientists who say septic systems are really designed for low-density communities where you have a lot of rural land. Marco Island is truly a high-density areA. The land is limited by water and the proximity of that water to the septic systems, is the true issue.Q. What specific environmental problems do we face from septic systems?A. Septic systems don’t process nutrients well, nitrogen primarily, which are indirectly related to red tide and other problems. Ecoli also is an issue.On Florida’s east coast, there have been barrier islands that waited until there was degradation of the environment so they went back and had to replace the septic systems. In the Keys, they found septic systems impacting coastal barrier reefs.There’s a big push to get older septic systems off line.
This says it all. I am sure someone will spin this but the facts are the facts. Looks like we're getting sewers.
Joe, tell me the truth. The only thing you've done this whole campaign is say you'll listen to the people. I am a people and I want to complete the STRP...why aren't you listening Joe. How can you lsiten to the people when you want to stop a program that you know is not a fiscally sound decision. Stopping the STRP will cost all people on Marco more money. How do you justify that Batte. Please respond as I would like to know how you are going to listen to my concerns.
Joe, I know you are a Marine so be faithful to the people of this island and tell the truth. Be a leader Joe and do what is best for our island community. You know that the STRP cannot be stopped so why do you, Neylon and Hall continue to lie about it. You know what is best for this island and so does everyone else. Tell the truth Joe!
Home Run Mr. Woodward. I am very pleased that some of the Silent Majority is starting to speak up. These naysayers have been acting like spoiled children for way too long. It's time to stop their lies before they actually get into office. I'll be voting for Gibson, Recker, Trotter and Waldack.
By the way...Great letters to the editor!
Mr. Neylon, where do you get your information. If you want my vote tell me how we are going to pay for all associated STRP costs incurred thus far. Explain how you seem to know more than a 19 page in-depth analysis put together by a professional utility rate consulting company. They have a staff experienced in rate analysis and engineering yet you disputed their findings in less than two pages. What are your qualifications and what makes you think you know more than they do?
Just remember citizens, a vote for Guidry, Hall, Neylon and Batte is a vote for Godfrey Davies. Do you really want Davies making decisions for the well-being of our city? Their plan is that if elected these guys will not only stop the STRP (which will cost all of us increased utility rates) but will also hire Davies as the city manager. What are his qualifications?? What will happen to our city?? He has no qualifications and will make all decisions based on what is best for him. Davies is a good example of why the USA should close its boarders and not let any more aliens come into our country.
The City Charter on the Qualifications of a City ManagerDIVISION 2. CITY MANAGER*__________*Charter references: City manager, § 4.01 et seq.__________Sec. 2-81. Office established; qualifications.(a) There shall be a city manager, who shall be the chief administrative officer of the city. The city manager shall be responsible to the council for the administration of all city affairs placed in the manager's charge by or under the Charter.(b) The selection of a city manager shall be based on education, experience, and administrative background.(Ord. No. 98-23, art. 2, § 1, 12-7-1998)
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