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Written on Letter to the editor: Thank you fellow Marco Islanders:

SmokeyJoe, with all due respect, don't you find it just a little timely that Mr. Kiester is asking for civility now after two years of total disrespect and chaos at council meetings? I don't think anyone is blaming 3000 voters for all the city's problems but Mr. Kiester was a leader to this group. Why didn't he ask for civility when Mr. Popoff's family was threatened or when Mr. Minozzi's boat was damaged, etc.?
Kiesters supporters have been downright nasty to anyone that disagreed with them and Mr. Kiester never requested that citizens "not attack those who have a different vision for the future of our beloved island." Why now?? Seems obvious to me...

Written on Pro-sewer candidates win Marco City Council election:

Neutral, you obviously aren't listening to the voters because you don't like what you're hearing. That's the thing about these people like you; you attack our council because you don't like they way they vote. Well, the fact is that over 60% of the voters on this island like the way our city council votes.

The real leaders in our community are the councilors that had enough courage to vote for the STRP all along. They did so and got abused at every meeting by the same childish speakers, you included Roger Hall. As you know, the single family home owner has a decrease in rates due to the reuse water the city sells to the condos. You are so full of misinformation it must be seeping out of your septic system!

Seems to me that Tucker, Trotter, Popoff and Minozzi have been vindicated. Good job councilors!!

Written on Pro-sewer candidates win Marco City Council election:

Neutral sounds a lot like the garbage that Hall has been spewwing. The statements are 100% incorrect. How many times do you need to be told, it takes five homes waste to create enough reuse for one home, thus, the more homes on sewer the more reuse water!

As to the financial situation of the city, another myth from Hall; the city is in excellent financial shape. Enough of your misinformation.

You said "let the voters speak.!" Well they spoke loud and clear why aren't you listening?

Written on Pro-sewer candidates win Marco City Council election:

Neylon wants to get louder? Shut up already! Didn't you get the message? How dense can you be?

Written on Marco Island’s divisive campaign issue: Sewer system or septic tanks?:

Get lost Foster...Oh, that's right, you already moved! Why are you so concerned with Marco Polictics Ed?? You took people's money on Marco, you sued the city, lost and ran off to the Carolinas. Stay the hell out of our community; you have done enough damage!

Written on Quiet Marco council meeting passes police raises, hotel development:

This meeting was void of naysayers. The usual suspects that usually speak at meetings didn't attend the meeting because they knew that their misinformation would be corrected. Tuesdays meeting was an example of civility and decorum, the way our government is suppose to operate. There were applause when coucnil informed us that Collier Blvd. recieved $13m in grant monies.

NO MORE NEGATIVITY:

VOTE GIBSON, RECKER, TROTTER & WALDACK

Written on Letter to the editor: Who are you?:

CAN'T WAIT UNTIL ELECTION DAY TO PUT AN END TO ALL THE CONTENTION. THE VOTES ARE CLEARLY TELLING US THAT PEOPLE ARE SICK OF ALL THE NEGATIVITY CAUSED BY THE ANTI-SEWER CROWD. THE ISLAND IS 85% SEWERED. COMMONSENSE AND THE EXPERTS TELL US TO FINISH THE PROJECT NOW.

Joe Batte 6% 119 votes

Jerry Gibson 18% 324 votes

Andrew Guidry 6% 124 votes

Roger Hall 5% 105 votes

Butch Neylon 6% 109 votes

Frank Recker 19% 343 votes

Bill Trotter 18% 336 votes

Wayne Waldack 17% 320 votes

1780 total votes

Written on The Marcophile: Marco tales of a mistaken septic tank and tainted tomatoes:

Byrone, you seem to be the only die-hard still trying to avoid sewers. It will be a great day on Marco Island when you either move off of the island or you have to write a check for your new sewer.

For a guy that only lives here part-time, you sure act like you know it all. Good riddance to septic tanks and you!!

Written on Guest commentary: The real truth about utility rates:

The truth, thank you! Neylon and the lot are liars. Of course, they always try to spin the facts.

Written on The Eagle endorses Batte, Gibson, Recker and Trotter:

You are lying lolala, just plain lying. Trotter was not recalled you liar! Hall tried to recall him because of his pro-sewer vote but the judge threw it out of court. Plus Hall never got the necessary signatures. You people are LIARS. Why can't you talk the truth?

Written on MICA forum airs out previously unvisited issues:

Wow Butch, three months as a full-time resident.

Written on Letter to the editor: My support:

Thanks Roger, now I know for certain that lolala is Roger Hall. You were amazing last night...amazingly pitiful! Between you not knowing what the heck you were talking about and Neylons lies you guys were a spectacle. At least Butch comes across as sincere when he's lying while you just spew nonsense. You were disingenuous and arrogant. At one point you were doing a Tucker imitation as it appeared you were sleeping. Perhaps you were just dreaming about your home in Squaw Valley, where we know you are no longer welcome.

Written on Letter to the editor: Misuse of data:

Myth Five: Neylon contends that Marco’s condominiums (that have waited years for reuse water) would receive additional reuse water if STRP ends.
Fact: If STRP were cut short, many condos would not receive a drop of reuse water. Furthermore, condo owners would continue paying drinking water rates for irrigation, at three times the cost of reuse water.

Myth Six: Without credible evidence or any study Neylon says there would be no financial damage if STRP were terminated.
Fact: Wrong again. If STRP ends now, the city would have to pay off the $51 million bond issue for wasted investment, the $4 million for wasted plant expansion and the cost of losing annual operating revenue. These figures have not only been provided by the city, but independent expert analysts have corroborated them. Every home and business property owner would have water and sewer costs rise by as much as 33% to pay for receiving nothing.

Myth Seven: Neylon says that sewers will lead to increased density.
Fact: Neylon is completely unfamiliar with the planning process of the State of Florida and Marco Island. Neylon is totally unaware that Marco has committed to reducing density in its Evaluation and Appraisal Report submitted to – and approved by – the state. Furthermore, all single-family lots are platted, new condominiums cannot be built and there are new, lower height limits. Density cannot increase.

Myth Eight: As one of a group of malcontents, Neylon has supported numerous lawsuits against the city (and therefore at great cost to the taxpayers) accusing the city of various violations.
Fact: The city has won each lawsuit; Neylon and the others won none.

Myth Nine: Neylon filed formal charges against two former city council members with made-up allegations of violations of the Sunshine Act.
Fact: The charges are wholly false and defamatory. The State Attorney found the charges baseless and concluded that they were “politically motivated”.

These are Neylon's "Dirty Little Secrets!"

Written on Letter to the editor: Misuse of data:

NEYLON’S NINE GREAT MYTHS

Francis “Butch” Neylon is a Marco Islander in name only. He has three homes, two in Massachusetts. He is not homesteaded in Florida. His business is in Massachusetts. He has only been registered to vote in Florida for one year. Yet, armed with misinformation, he is running for City Council by circulating false and misleading Myths to the public and the media. Here are just nine examples:

Myth One: Neylon says that septic systems are the “ideal way” to treat wastewater on Marco Island.
Fact: Deltona planned sewers for Marco Island more than 40 years ago. The Department of Health, Florida Department of Environmental Protection, Southwest Florida Water Management District and all environmental agencies and organizations strongly urge that sewers replace Marco’s septic tanks.

Myth Two: Neylon says that Marco’s septic systems are fine and that there are virtually no complaints about failures.
Fact: Florida’s Board of Health states that they cannot tell whether Marco’s septics work at all because they have not been inspected; that a maintenance and inspection program would be extremely expensive for home-owners; and that septics should be replaced by sewers.

Myth Three: Neylon states that sewers are the biggest source of wastewater pollution in the United States.
Fact: Totally false. Neylon relies on statistics based on older communities that have combined wastewater AND rain water in the same system, making them susceptible to overloads and flooding during storms. Marco has a separate wastewater system that prevents the problem found in systems as much as 100 years old.

Myth Four: Neylon says that EPA “has concluded that Marco Island’s sewer system is leaking raw sewerage in massive amounts into our groundwater every day”.
Fact: False! Neylon calculated an average based on an EPA study of the western United States only, in which water tables are low, contrasted to Marco’s high water tables. Neylon’s technique is comparable to calculating an average daily murder rate of a number of persons a day in the west and estimating that Marco must therefore have four or five murders per day!

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

Your attempt to save Butch is feeble at best. Putnam, talk about laughing...I can't stop. Bottom line is you guys are scrammbling because Neylon makes this stuff up and I posted the facts. Nice of you guys to come to his rescue but he is going to have a tough time winning an election by making up stuff like this up! Put your seltbelt on Butchey boy, the rides going to get rough!

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

Myth Five: Neylon contends that Marco’s condominiums (that have waited years for reuse water) would receive additional reuse water if STRP ends.
Fact: If STRP were cut short, many condos would not receive a drop of reuse water. Furthermore, condo owners would continue paying drinking water rates for irrigation, at three times the cost of reuse water.
Myth Six: Without credible evidence or any study Neylon says there would be no financial damage if STRP were terminated.
Fact: Wrong again. If STRP ends now, the city would have to pay off the $51 million bond issue for wasted investment, the $4 million for wasted plant expansion and the cost of losing annual operating revenue. These figures have not only been provided by the city, but independent expert analysts have corroborated them. Every home and business property owner would have water and sewer costs rise by as much as 33% to pay for receiving nothing.
Myth Seven: Neylon says that sewers will lead to increased density.
Fact: Neylon is completely unfamiliar with the planning process of the State of Florida and Marco Island. Neylon is totally unaware that Marco has committed to reducing density in its Evaluation and Appraisal Report submitted to – and approved by – the state. Furthermore, all single-family lots are platted, new condominiums cannot be built and there are new, lower height limits. Density cannot increase.
Myth Eight: As one of a group of malcontents, Neylon has supported numerous lawsuits against the city (and therefore at great cost to the taxpayers) accusing the city of various violations.
Fact: The city has won each lawsuit; Neylon and the others won none.
Myth Nine: Neylon filed formal charges against two former city council members with made-up allegations of violations of the Sunshine Act.
Fact: The charges are wholly false and defamatory. The State Attorney found the charges baseless and concluded that they were “politically motivated”.

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

NEYLON’S NINE GREAT MYTHS
Francis “Butch” Neylon is a Marco Islander in name only. He has three homes, two in Massachusetts. He is not homesteaded in Florida. His business is in Massachusetts. He has only been registered to vote in Florida for one year. Yet, armed with misinformation, he is running for City Council by circulating false and misleading Myths to the public and the media. Here are just nine examples:
Myth One: Neylon says that septic systems are the “ideal way” to treat wastewater on Marco Island.
Fact: Deltona planned sewers for Marco Island more than 40 years ago. The Department of Health, Florida Department of Environmental Protection, Southwest Florida Water Management District and all environmental agencies and organizations strongly urge that sewers replace Marco’s septic tanks.
Myth Two: Neylon says that Marco’s septic systems are fine and that there are virtually no complaints about failures.
Fact: Florida’s Board of Health states that they cannot tell whether Marco’s septics work at all because they have not been inspected; that a maintenance and inspection program would be extremely expensive for home-owners; and that septics should be replaced by sewers.
Myth Three: Neylon states that sewers are the biggest source of wastewater pollution in the United States.
Fact: Totally false. Neylon relies on statistics based on older communities that have combined wastewater AND rain water in the same system, making them susceptible to overloads and flooding during storms. Marco has a separate wastewater system that prevents the problem found in systems as much as 100 years old.
Myth Four: Neylon says that EPA “has concluded that Marco Island’s sewer system is leaking raw sewerage in massive amounts into our groundwater every day”.
Fact: False! Neylon calculated an average based on an EPA study of the western United States only, in which water tables are low, contrasted to Marco’s high water tables. Neylon’s technique is comparable to calculating an average daily murder rate of a number of persons a day in the west and estimating that Marco must therefore have four or five murders per day!

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

The above is documented proof from experts in the field. They all agree that sewers are the preferred method of waste disposal for Marco Island. What further proof does one need? Are we to dismiss the state of Florida's expert advice and listen to Mr. Neylon's assumptions and half-truths or do we listen to the experts? Remember Monroe County was MANDATED to complete their sewer project and Marco Island will be too at a much higher cost to residents. Listen to the experts and listen to the truth! Do not listen to this one-year, part-time resident snowbird Neylon.

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

Iglehart concluded by stating, “Based on the above it is the Department’s opinion that central wastewater collection and treatment systems offer a preferred environmental alternative for serving the utility needs of a community such as the City of Marco Island.”

Collier County Audubon Society
Brad Cornell, Big Cypress Policy Associate and Conservation Policy Analyst with the Collier County Audubon Society, stated in a letter to the City: “On behalf of the approximately 6,000 Audubon members in southwest Florida, I wish to commend the City of Marco Island for its proactive and politically courageous efforts to conserve our area’s precious water resources, and to reverse a wasteful trend that has plagued the Island. As the rapid growth of southwest Florida accelerates, it is critical that all of our communities recognize and act on the need to conserve and protect water resources and the wetlands and aquifers that are their source. In particular, Audubon of Florida and Collier County Audubon Society recognize the City of Marco Island for:

Committing to building central sewers for the protection of surrounding surface waters.”

Florida Department of Health
The Florida Department of Health also supported the City Council decision to move to a public sewer system for all City of Marco Island residents.

Dr. Joan M. Colfer, M.D., M.P.H., Director, Collier County Health Department stated, “Septic systems are much more susceptible to misuse from residents not familiar with non urban waste treatment requirements."

“When public sewer is available it is always the desired way to serve the urban domestic waste needs of residents. Public sewers will provide the most flexibility for future development of the property and the assurance that the maintenance and operation of the system is regulated and monitored.”

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

Detailed comments below:
FDEP
Jon Iglehart, Director with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP)
Iglehart stated, “Septic Tanks, when properly designed, constructed and maintained, perform well in sparsely populated areas where large tracts of lands are available for wastewater disposal. In such cases, the impact of Septic Tanks on the resources and on the neighboring properties is minimized due to a low density of population and adequate setbacks from other development.

“In urban and coastal areas, septic tank and drain-field systems can have a significant impact on resources, particularly in residential communities interspersed with tidal canals. These impacts generally include increases of both nutrient and Biochemical oxygen demand (BOD) levels in the canals and adjacent water bodies. These often result in an increased potential of algal blooms, lower dissolved oxygen, and subsequent reduction of fish populations. In canal communities where septic systems are older or are not regularly maintained, the presence of fecal coliform bacteria and human pathogenic organisms within the canal systems and adjacent waters is commonly documented.

“Central wastewater collection, treatment and disposal systems in communities with canal systems provide significantly greater water quality protection to the resource in a number of ways. Central systems perform the treatment of wastewater to meet water quality standards, providing direct protection to the environment.

“Because the system collects the waste from a large number of sources, occasional waste concentrations are quickly diluted so there is no treatment issue at the facility. A similar disposal into a septic system could render it non-functional for a long period of time. In addition, wastewater treatment facilities produce a significant supply of clean and disinfected re-use water, suitable for the community’s irrigation needs. This reduces the demand for the production of potable water for these purposes, providing energy savings and reducing aquifer needs.”

Written on Letter to the editor: Nothing but the facts:

The City of Marco Island has received commendations from representatives of public health and environmental groups for recognizing the need to protect and preserve the City’s water resources by instituting a central sewage system before severe and irreparable damage is caused to its tidal canals and adjacent bodies of water. Mr. Neylon is legend in his own mind. Ask yourself, does he know more than all of the state officials whose comments are stated below. I'm not drinking Neylon's Kool Aid, I trust in the experts and their data.

FDEP
Jon Iglehart, Director with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP), “it is the Department’s opinion that central wastewater collection and treatment systems offer a preferred environmental alternative for serving the utility needs of a community such as the City of Marco Island.”

Collier County Audubon Society
Brad Cornell, Big Cypress Policy Associate and Conservation Policy Analyst with the Collier County Audubon Society, stated in a letter to the City:

"Audubon of Florida and Collier County Audubon Society recognize the City of Marco Island for:Committing to building central sewers for the protection of surrounding surface waters.”

Florida Department of Health
The Florida Department of Health also supported the City Council's decision to move to a public sewer system for all City of Marco Island residents.

Dr. Joan M. Colfer, M.D., M.P.H., Director, Collier County Health Department stated, “In short, migration to a standard central sewer system is a positive action by the City of Marco Island in the best interest of the public’s health.”

Written on Marco councilman vows to fight charges:

Davies doesn't qualify, he doesn't have the credentials. Plus, he isn't managing winning candidates. bbyrone46, I appreciate your statements but your candidates will not have to be contended with. They are losing candidates whose campaign is run and supported by consistent losers. Just read the blog above from Semper Fi, he clearly states the truth. In case you didn't know, Semper Fidelis means "Faithful Forever." I respect Batte because he is a Marine and I respect Guidry's military service but they are misled. Neylon and Hall are just liars.

Keep dreaming bbyrone46 but your candidates don't stand a chance. Driving around with posters in cars and trucks won't win this election.

Written on Marco councilman vows to fight charges:

Be careful Para, if Davies finds out who you are you could end up with slashed tires, egged house a mailbox knocked down or worse.

Written on Marco councilman vows to fight charges:

Can't wait until the election is over and this nonsensical bantering stops. Unfortunately, I think that after Recker, Trotter, Gibson and Waldack take office and the antagonists see they are nothing more than a vocal minority they will still probably litter the council meetings with their constipated faces and continue to inssessantly complain; they will never learn!

Written on Letter to the Editor: Paid political advertisement:

Dr. Recker, a dentist and a lawyer and long time resident who has served on many boards on Marco Island and has experience as a city councilor. A proven leader!

Gerry Gibson, a 21 year resident of Marco Island and successful realtor. Past president of the morning Rotary Club and contributor for many organizations in the community. A proven leader!

Dr. Bill Trotter, experience we need on the council. He toughed the storm of contempt and continued attacks by the Hall, Nelyon and Davies machine, he is solid as a rock and his experience in management and government is essential to the council. A proven leader!

Wayne Waldack, a down to earth, honest man who has dedicated more time to the church and the community in the last year than Hall and Neylon combined actually lived here. A proven leader!

Now your candidates:
Neylon, an electrician who is not a full-time resident and has contributed nothing to Marco Island. Registered as a voter only one year. Creates numbers to suit his agenda not what is best for Marco Island.

Hall, a part-time resident who has done absolutely nothing for Marco Island. All of his community involvement was in Squaw Valley (they are happy he left). Registered as a voter for only two years but has spent more time in California than on Marco.

Guidry, a one issue candidate with a shameful appearance on the Howard Stern show that is anything but fitting for an elected official of Marco Island.

Batte, it's his way or it's the wrong way. With his arrogance and need to hear himself talk the meetings will never end!

You vote for the electrician and his sheep Hawke1, I did my homework, I'm voting for the candidates with ties to the community and the best qualifications for office.

Written on Guest commentary: The truth about utility rates:

Butch, I'm still waiting for your data. PRMG has 11 pages of data, where is your data? Anyone can come up with arbitrary numbers and make them look official like you did in the post above; where is your data. What qualify's you to present the data? Are you a rate analysis expert, an accountant, an engineer? You are an electrician yet you claim to know more than the experts and therein lies the problem, your ego! Your lies will cost the citizens of Marco Island millions of dollars for nothing.

How do you plan on defending your numbers with no data. If you are elected, what will you tell the people of Marco Island when you can't possibly produce a 14% rate decrease? We all know you will blame staff and council. I know it's hard for you but tell the truth, it's the right thing to do. You're dealing with peoples money and your assumptions are inaccurate and will have hugh reprecussions for Marco Island resindents! You are way out of your league!

Written on Guest commentary: The truth about utility rates:

Myth Five: Neylon contends that Marco’s condominiums (that have waited years for reuse water) would receive additional reuse water if STRP ends.
Fact: If STRP were cut short, many condos would not receive a drop of reuse water. Furthermore, condo owners would continue paying drinking water rates for irrigation, at three times the cost of reuse water.

Myth Six: Without credible evidence or any study Neylon says there would be no financial damage if STRP were terminated.
Fact: Wrong again. If STRP ends now, the city would have to pay off the $51 million bond issue for wasted investment, the $4 million for wasted plant expansion and the cost of losing annual operating revenue. These figures have not only been provided by the city, but independent expert analysts have corroborated them. Every home and business property owner would have water and sewer costs rise by as much as 33% to pay for receiving nothing.

Myth Seven: Neylon says that sewers will lead to increased density.
Fact: Neylon is completely unfamiliar with the planning process of the State of Florida and Marco Island. Neylon is totally unaware that Marco has committed to reducing density in its Evaluation and Appraisal Report submitted to – and approved by – the state. Furthermore, all single-family lots are platted, new condominiums cannot be built and there are new, lower height limits. Density cannot increase.

Myth Eight: As one of a group of malcontents, Neylon has supported numerous lawsuits against the city (and therefore at great cost to the taxpayers) accusing the city of various violations.
Fact: The city has won each lawsuit; Neylon and the others won none.

Myth Nine: Neylon filed formal charges against two former city council members with made-up allegations of violations of the Sunshine Act.
Fact: The charges are wholly false and defamatory. The State Attorney found the charges baseless and concluded that they were “politically motivated”.

Written on Guest commentary: The truth about utility rates:

NEYLON’S NINE GREAT MYTHS

Francis “Butch” Neylon is a Marco Islander in name only. He has three homes, two in Massachusetts. He is not homesteaded in Florida. His business is in Massachusetts. He has only been registered to vote in Florida for one year. Yet, armed with misinformation, he is running for City Council by circulating false and misleading Myths to the public and the media. Here are just nine examples:

Myth One: Neylon says that septic systems are the “ideal way” to treat wastewater on Marco Island.
Fact: Deltona planned sewers for Marco Island more than 40 years ago. The Department of Health, Florida Department of Environmental Protection, Southwest Florida Water Management District and all environmental agencies and organizations strongly urge that sewers replace Marco’s septic tanks.

Myth Two: Neylon says that Marco’s septic systems are fine and that there are virtually no complaints about failures.
Fact: Florida’s Board of Health states that they cannot tell whether Marco’s septics work at all because they have not been inspected; that a maintenance and inspection program would be extremely expensive for home-owners; and that septics should be replaced by sewers.

Myth Three: Neylon states that sewers are the biggest source of wastewater pollution in the United States.
Fact: Totally false. Neylon relies on statistics based on older communities that have combined wastewater AND rain water in the same system, making them susceptible to overloads and flooding during storms. Marco has a separate wastewater system that prevents the problem found in systems as much as 100 years old.

Myth Four: Neylon says that EPA “has concluded that Marco Island’s sewer system is leaking raw sewerage in massive amounts into our groundwater every day”.
Fact: False! Neylon calculated an average based on an EPA study of the western United States only, in which water tables are low, contrasted to Marco’s high water tables. Neylon’s technique is comparable to calculating an average daily murder rate of a number of persons a day in the west and estimating that Marco must therefore have four or five murders per day!

Written on Second debate follows footsteps of first:

I was at the MITA meeting tonight and have come to the conclusion that Roger Hall is the most arrogant individual I have ever had to suffer listening to. I saw at least one or two people get up and leave when he was spouting attacks and uttering lies. I wonder if he was as obnoxious in the other six groups as he was in mine. Talk about vile, this man is vile!

Written on Local hairdressers get on the cutting edge:

Oracle, first off you don't speak for 1000's of people nor do you speak for the will of the electorate. You speak for yourself and a few dozen diehard city haters that attend every meeting and try to disrupt city business. There are many of us that appreciate what our elected officials and city manager do. We do not see the need to attend meetings and deal with negativity from individuals like you. There are thousands of citizens on Marco Island that feel like I do. If the complainers that attended every council meeting attended events on the Island like Rotary, Kiwanis, parades, the Tree Lighting ceremony, Police Foundation luncheons, Chamber of Commerce after five gatherings, School events, charity events and a myriad of other community events, they would realize how many people appreciate our city and its governance. You Oracle, and your kind, are only a small group of malcontents that are no different than terrorists; you throw bombs and run the other way hoping to cause some damage. We, the silent majority are sick and tired of your immature tirades and will do all we can collectively to stop this nonsense at the next election.

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