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Let me get this straight! You want the taxpayers to pay for an extended boardwalk at a private membership only beach park?
Are you serious?
in response to deltarome: This is adjusting risk vs costs. wind insurance has long subsidized substandard dwellings. Flood insurance has subsidized people living in low lying areas. When the govt is the only source of insurance, the free market is telling you that the premiums are not high enough to cover the risk of loss. Get over it and get real. Days of subsidies are ending.
in response to deltarome:
This is adjusting risk vs costs. wind insurance has long subsidized substandard dwellings. Flood insurance has subsidized people living in low lying areas. When the govt is the only source of insurance, the free market is telling you that the premiums are not high enough to cover the risk of loss. Get over it and get real. Days of subsidies are ending.
What free market? The insurance companies do not price insurance to cover losses but to raise revenue to invest.
As far as what I want to cover, I find little vaue in what I pay for. My risk is primarily the loss of roofing and I can get a new roof every few years for the cost of my coverage.
With low mortgage rates insurance cost not only are increasing but taking a propotrionaly lager share of the cost of owning a home.
Many would be better off forgoing the insurance and investing the premiums.
When a storm does come along a lot of people rush in to milk claims, getting new roofs etc when damages are reparable. However, just by saving the cost of insurance everyone would be able to replace a roof every few years.
For non nececary items like fancy pool screen encolsure - why bother. If you can afford this type of thing you need to be able to bear the cost of loss or just get a decent and livable home and keep life simple.
It seems that communties could come together and find a more cost effective way to protect property and homes. The open market/goverment manipulated system is suckng way to much resoruces from families that want to own and decent home for reasonable costs.
As far as the England's situation, I bet if someoen was to evaluate their lifestyle choices and saving/investment picture, I bet you would end up not feeling sorry for them. What would citizens charge to cover the entire property now? The Englands should have maintained a lifestyle to allow them to self-insure so to speak. I bet if they had invested the same amount as their premiums and paid closer attention to storm loss potential they could easily have saved more than enough to replace their unit.
Also, their home is not that flimsy. They went through Wilama and lost only a carport. What type of storm will it take to destroy their home?
Google this hospital and its billing practices and you can see this 'great man' can well aford to spend time doing community service damage control because of outrageous billing practices - that's my opinion and I am sticking to it. How many people are honored after wrecking havoc on others and building business by stepping on good moral principles and then giving away a few bucks or time doing a few good deeds? Perhaps this award winners time would be better spent making sure his company provides decent health care for reasonable cost and not becomming a billing machine!
What is the need of the reverse osmosis system? What is the relative cost of the water from the 12 wells? What would it take to capture some of the rain water to return to the system and use the natural prurificaton of the Sun and its water transport scheme?
Come on NDN, give us something to think about.
in response to OldMarcoMan: Ohhhh Ok, I see now,,,you work for the City Building Dept., sorry if I hit a nerve.
in response to OldMarcoMan:
Ohhhh Ok, I see now,,,you work for the City Building Dept., sorry if I hit a nerve.
I do not work for the city. I is quite clear, however, that there is a gaggle of posters ready to pounce on the ciy now matter who is at fault.
in response to OldMarcoMan: "gladesgator Most of you posters here do not understand the story, or are idiots, or have a grudge against the city and want to take every opportunity to bash someone." So ? Whats your point ?
"gladesgator Most of you posters here do not understand the story, or are idiots, or have a grudge against the city and want to take every opportunity to bash someone."
So ? Whats your point ?
The point is that there are so many whiney babies posting here ready to jump on the City even when the city did nothing wrong. The city properly answered the estoppel letter revealing the amount of fees due the city. Had any fee been omittied it would be waived due to the listing and the letter.
The city was not required in the estopppel letter to give notice of any outstanding violations. If the letter had included violations perhaps it would not even be considered responsive. Did the attorney ask about any outstanding violations? Apparently not, There is nothing in this story to tell us that.
Interestingly, a different attorney went before the board. The attorney doing the closing did not appear. Why? The realtaors and attorneys were appaently very experienced and did not bother to check on the sewer hook-up or outstanding violations and yet want to blame the city! Where are all of you people that believe in personal responsibility.
.What a buch of babies posting here. If the sewer charge was not paid, what are the chances that the home was indeed hooked up to the sewer system? It is not like the city was imposing a fine for not being hooked up. It is not the cities responsibility to make sure the new buyer understood he was required to be hooked up to the sewer system. Most of you posters here do not understand the story, or are idiots, or have a grudge against the city and want to take every opportunity to bash someone.
Why not blame the realtor and the lawyer? Shouldn't the lawyer know the limits of an estoppel letter. Did anyone bother to check to see that the sewer was connected?
in response to WizeOlMarco: Why does the City seem intent on taking responsibility for providing parking to Marco Island businesses? Businesses have plenty of options, most obvious, purchase a vacant lot (or an improved property and remove the improvements) for their customer parking use. When business operations grow to exceed the capacity of the property (building and associated land area), expand by buying (or lease) adjacent property or relocate to another location. The City should not spend any money creating parking for local businesses (caveat, unless a City/public project eliminates a business parking). In all seasons I support local business and urge everyone do to do. I also support the independence of the City and community at-large.
in response to WizeOlMarco:
Why does the City seem intent on taking responsibility for providing parking to Marco Island businesses? Businesses have plenty of options, most obvious, purchase a vacant lot (or an improved property and remove the improvements) for their customer parking use. When business operations grow to exceed the capacity of the property (building and associated land area), expand by buying (or lease) adjacent property or relocate to another location. The City should not spend any money creating parking for local businesses (caveat, unless a City/public project eliminates a business parking). In all seasons I support local business and urge everyone do to do. I also support the independence of the City and community at-large.
Apparently you have never run a business. Besides, what has this to do with boating and live aboards?
This is all a big joke. Many of the constitutional provisions are to prevent abuses by law enforcement. If our law enforcement officials really want to uphold the constitution they can start by avoiding unreasonable search and seizure operations.
Someone of you that make the gushy post please tell me how the right to keep assault weapons will keep you free from oppressive government. keep you free from oppresive government.
Wow, this was a commentary on the U.S. Healthcare system. Feed em fatty foods, entertain them with a life threatening and dangerous event and then over treat and over charge them!
in response to gladesgator: This whole thing was nothing but a dog and pony show - just grandstanding by some people who want to get in front of others. The second amendment speaks for itself and questions regarding its application go to the U.S. Supreme Court. There are real issues to deal with concerning real people with real needs. This whole thing was just a show by people with too much time on their hands and to much money in the bank. Our time is better spent being a good neighbor or friend to someone in need. Does anyone really believe that present day social systems remontly reflect the reason the framers of the constitution included the right to keep and bear arms. I don't think so!
in response to gladesgator:
This whole thing was nothing but a dog and pony show - just grandstanding by some people who want to get in front of others. The second amendment speaks for itself and questions regarding its application go to the U.S. Supreme Court. There are real issues to deal with concerning real people with real needs. This whole thing was just a show by people with too much time on their hands and to much money in the bank. Our time is better spent being a good neighbor or friend to someone in need.
Does anyone really believe that present day social systems remontly reflect the reason the framers of the constitution included the right to keep and bear arms. I don't think so!
How is it an affront to the second amendment to ban assault weapons? Does anyone think oppressive government can be replaced by a private militia?
If you are afraid that there is a big conspiracy leading to a one world government, assault weapons are not going to help you. Our greatest weapons are prayer,faith, love, hope kindness, honest, truth, good deeds and justice.
I find more tyranny in the oprressive homeowners and flood insurance rates and forced coverage by banks thank I find in ban on assault type wepons. The day has long passed that oppressive goverment could be reigned in by private militia.
It is hard to imagine any militia that could over through the U.S. Government. Perhaps some of the skinheads in Montana think that is possible. For most of us we realize that the vote and the pen is mightier that the sword. It seems that any physician would also understand?
Our battles take place one by one in the legal system and very few really work for just laws and fight against oppression. However, when the suggestion of gun control comes up the rants begin.
The only groups powerful to make a dent would have to resort to chemical or nuclear weapons and it seems only terrorist resort to such unsavory tactics.
How do you feel about abortion doctor? Would you agree with me that Roe v. Wade makes a mockery of constitutional interpretation?
1976? What a stretch! Do you really expect anyone to believe you?
What a nice letter! Many thanks for taking the time to write it.
in response to ajm3s: Excellent! And you could understand why the rescue personnel told the teenager to come out of the water. But the video, played Hollywood, with little mention of the Marco Island Rescue operation. Tragedy, and thank god we did not create more victims but it came close... and the last thing rescue personnel want is a search for more victims. Folks, the Fire Rescue squad did what they had to do and they had the proper equipment to aid in the search. And any fire chief knows the negative impact of the public, as well as, rescue personnel acting under a "hero mentality" for it can lead to additional peril and breakdown of command/protocol. I understand the hero angle to the video story, but sometimes as we raise the hero to new heights for public consumption, I only wish we would stop looking for heroes and pay more attention to the tragedy and move forward to initiate simple safety recommendations such as placement and identification of flotation devices for emergency use near all public ponds. Simple and inexpensive. Please let us not turn this into a circus, and that applies to all parties, both public and private. Sometimes, the less said has more impact.... and I believe I said to much.
in response to ajm3s:
Excellent! And you could understand why the rescue personnel told the teenager to come out of the water. But the video, played Hollywood, with little mention of the Marco Island Rescue operation.
Tragedy, and thank god we did not create more victims but it came close... and the last thing rescue personnel want is a search for more victims.
Folks, the Fire Rescue squad did what they had to do and they had the proper equipment to aid in the search. And any fire chief knows the negative impact of the public, as well as, rescue personnel acting under a "hero mentality" for it can lead to additional peril and breakdown of command/protocol.
I understand the hero angle to the video story, but sometimes as we raise the hero to new heights for public consumption, I only wish we would stop looking for heroes and pay more attention to the tragedy and move forward to initiate simple safety recommendations such as placement and identification of flotation devices for emergency use near all public ponds. Simple and inexpensive.
Please let us not turn this into a circus, and that applies to all parties, both public and private.
Sometimes, the less said has more impact.... and I believe I said to much.
The video was poor and news coverage slanted and not really in the public interest.
The latest two post were very informative and appreciated. What has not been answered is when the incident was called in and how long it took the rescue squad to arrive.
Also, someone said the man was a good swimmer. If so, why does a good swimmer suddenly go down?
in response to KlausStoertebeker: " The lake is not open for swimming and it is hard to understand how this man was in the water for over thirty minutes." Shame on you for this rude and ranting comment!
in response to KlausStoertebeker:
" The lake is not open for swimming and it is hard to understand how this man was in the water for over thirty minutes."
Shame on you for this rude and ranting comment!
How is that rude and ranting, pray tell? One poster asked if he lake was open for swimming and so I provided an answer.
in response to Concerned24: I can not believe some of the rude and obnoxious comments on here. How would some of you feel if this man was someone YOU knew or a member of YOUR family? Dean and his family have been neighbors of ours for many many years. He lived in Marco Island for a while before returning to CT to help care for his elderly parents. It is truly a tragedy that such a decent, kind man died like this. Can some of you that are residents shed some light on this to help us understand what happened? Is this a lake that is open for swimming or not? Someone referenced thick mud, but are there other factors in the lake that would cause him to be trapped or injured (wildlife, currents, weeds, etc.)? If the park was so crowded, how come only one teenager went in to help? Having lived in FL for a while myself and having been a lifeguard in FL, why did it take 35 minutes to locate and pull him out of the water? If the rescue squad was only a few minutes away, what happened? Were they unable to find him? Finally, I saw the guy in the video who went into the water to help and I am grateful to him for his efforts. If anyone has an address for him or a way to get in touch with him, please let me know. I would like to actually send him a card myself to say THANK YOU for caring enough about a total stranger that you put your own life on the line to TRY to save him. We need more people like him in this world!
in response to Concerned24:
I can not believe some of the rude and obnoxious comments on here. How would some of you feel if this man was someone YOU knew or a member of YOUR family? Dean and his family have been neighbors of ours for many many years. He lived in Marco Island for a while before returning to CT to help care for his elderly parents. It is truly a tragedy that such a decent, kind man died like this. Can some of you that are residents shed some light on this to help us understand what happened? Is this a lake that is open for swimming or not? Someone referenced thick mud, but are there other factors in the lake that would cause him to be trapped or injured (wildlife, currents, weeds, etc.)? If the park was so crowded, how come only one teenager went in to help? Having lived in FL for a while myself and having been a lifeguard in FL, why did it take 35 minutes to locate and pull him out of the water? If the rescue squad was only a few minutes away, what happened? Were they unable to find him? Finally, I saw the guy in the video who went into the water to help and I am grateful to him for his efforts. If anyone has an address for him or a way to get in touch with him, please let me know. I would like to actually send him a card myself to say THANK YOU for caring enough about a total stranger that you put your own life on the line to TRY to save him. We need more people like him in this world!
We share your concern as well as your disgust over some of the rude comments. You should be able to contact the Marco Island police department and/or the parks and recreation department for some answers. The lake is not open for swimming and it is hard to understand how this man was in the water for over thirty minutes. I is too early to make accusations like some of the blabber-mouth posters on this site have done. I hope you follow through and make sure the questions are answered and the answers are made known to the public.
in response to MarcoBiker: To answer the blaring music question I can cite two places easily, Daytona Beach and Destin. And, the comment of noise traveling at night also has merit. Just because YOU have no experience with something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We don't want Marco to be a Daytona Beach, BUT some controlled growth is a good thing. For all of the tourists staying at the Hilton, Marriott, the timeshare places, and for residents (and their visiting family and friends) wouldn't it be nice to have lunch or dinner at Sasso's or across the street, and then walk a 100 yards and play a round of minature golf?? Horse poop, NO. Loud blaring noise, NO. But, quality of life improvements ... YES, if they make sense. Kramer and MICA need to get together and approve this project instead of acting like idiots, and I can also see where Kramer should be sanctioned (read that pay some bucks) for having tried to do an end run on MICA.
in response to MarcoBiker:
To answer the blaring music question I can cite two places easily, Daytona Beach and Destin. And, the comment of noise traveling at night also has merit. Just because YOU have no experience with something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
We don't want Marco to be a Daytona Beach, BUT some controlled growth is a good thing. For all of the tourists staying at the Hilton, Marriott, the timeshare places, and for residents (and their visiting family and friends) wouldn't it be nice to have lunch or dinner at Sasso's or across the street, and then walk a 100 yards and play a round of minature golf??
Horse poop, NO. Loud blaring noise, NO. But, quality of life improvements ... YES, if they make sense. Kramer and MICA need to get together and approve this project instead of acting like idiots, and I can also see where Kramer should be sanctioned (read that pay some bucks) for having tried to do an end run on MICA.
Kramer's wife owns Sasos so its their call but it does not seem that the type of people dining at Sasso's would have a lot of interest in Put Put. Perhaps going to the theater afer dinner would be more like it.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: islandeye - what are you talking about? My wife had a small car accident in a parking lot. A 76 year old woman hit her staying car. Police shows up 57 minutes after calling. Police is totally overwhelmed by accidents. Fire department by fires too. Let us double the staff.
islandeye - what are you talking about? My wife had a small car accident in a parking lot. A 76 year old woman hit her staying car. Police shows up 57 minutes after calling. Police is totally overwhelmed by accidents. Fire department by fires too. Let us double the staff.
Right now, I just asked for the facts, maaam,just the facts!
The purpose of deed restrictions is to maintain a neighborhood and provide amenities that all can enjoy. People off island are paying thousands of dollars to join beach clubs that provide less amenities that MICA provides with Residents Beach for about 100 dollars a year. So MICA works for the benefit of all its members.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: That means MICA act in favor of you?
That means MICA act in favor of you?
In a sense, yes.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: Thank you very much. I like to learn new stuff. But that was already I understand. My question is: CAN CITY COUNCIL OVERRULE MICA? Like the judge said: OVERRULED!!!!! I mean City Council is the highest authority on Marco Island. If they are agree, that is for me political will law. Or not? DID YOU UNDERSTAND ME NOW? Come on islandeye - give me a clear answer. AND ----- if Att. Kramer knows the position of MICA, WHY is he now building in overtime and at night?
Thank you very much. I like to learn new stuff. But that was already I understand. My question is:
CAN CITY COUNCIL OVERRULE MICA? Like the judge said: OVERRULED!!!!!
I mean City Council is the highest authority on Marco Island. If they are agree, that is for me political will law. Or not?
DID YOU UNDERSTAND ME NOW?
Come on islandeye - give me a clear answer.
AND ----- if Att. Kramer knows the position of MICA, WHY is he now building in overtime and at night?
If you buy a house and take title and the deed references an easement, neither city hall, the Governor or the President of the United States can take it away. Why, you did not buy the ability to use your property in a totally unrestricted manner but you bought it subject to the easement. Every property that requires MICA to review new plans had a deed restriction in favor of MICA when they bought the property. It's the same as if you bought in a deed restricted subdivision with a homeowner's association. The only difference is that being under MICA we get much more than our money's worth. See my prior posts in that regard. I can’t tell you what Kramer is doing with that silly put-put golf course.
in response to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot: Drain the lake! Make it a petting zoo for all the old folks. Couple goats, a lama, maybe a small elephant or two? A lake is no place for these folks to be playing with a toy boat unsupervised. 30 minute response time? There's an armed intruder in my home. It's 1am. What do I grab first? The phone? Or my .45?
in response to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot:
Drain the lake! Make it a petting zoo for all the old folks. Couple goats, a lama, maybe a small elephant or two? A lake is no place for these folks to be playing with a toy boat unsupervised.
30 minute response time? There's an armed intruder in my home. It's 1am. What do I grab first? The phone? Or my .45?
No one said anything about a thirty minute response time. I have no idea how long it took for the Fire and Rescue to get there. The article said the man was under for 35 minutes. None of you seem to care about the facts and most are just cynical and meaningless responses.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: And you smarty Republican another question: Can you tell me: How to amend Deed Restrictionson Marco Island by zoning problems?
And you smarty Republican another question:
Can you tell me: How to amend Deed Restrictionson Marco Island by zoning problems?
Klaus, Please clarify your question. I did not understand what you are asking. I will say that deed restrictions are covenants that a land purchaser agrees to upon purchasing the property and it is restrictive ownership like an easement. The legal issues raised by Atty. Kramer are complex. However, he well knew of MICA’s position and should have filed to have the law clarified via a declaratory action before undertaking the building project without MICA approval.
in response to KlausStoertebeker: Is MICA more powerful than the free elected representatives of the people - Marco Island City Councilor?Some people need tutoring in democracy!
Is MICA more powerful than the free elected representatives of the people - Marco Island City Councilor?Some people need tutoring in democracy!
Google deed restrictions and get an education Klaus. And, FYI the USA is a Rubublic not a Democracy.
I just watched the NBC video embedded in the article. It says there were many people out here and no one else went into the water. However, there is no mention of when Fire and Rescue arrived. It seems that the NBC video was devoid of any substance but needed a theme and public interest and so it focused on the rescue efforts of the teenager. Well, sure he deserves credit but does everyone else that was at the lake deserved to be condemned as heartless uncaring bystanders? And how did the NBC news crew arrive at that conclusion in such a short time?
. The Bible also says Judgment begins in the House of God. "Churches" are generally more like little business entities pandering to the social needs of people instead of teaching God's word and building the Body of Christ. Every time you turn around some personality turned preacher is messing around with a member of the congregation, raking in the cash or otherwise demonstrating original sin instead of displaying the redeeming nature of Christ. It is so easy for a fundamental Christian to get a amen’s for putting down Obama but only when the Church is transformed will any have a right to complain about civil government.
in response to OldMarcoMan: If THIS ISNT the place for political rants than where is ?You must be new to either The Island, the Paper, The Blogs, or Marco Politics.
If THIS ISNT the place for political rants than where is ?You must be new to either The Island, the Paper, The Blogs, or Marco Politics.
Are you a heartless soul? A man died. Marco Fire and Rescue are housed three minutes from the lake where he drowned. The walk around the lake should have been busy at the time of the incident. Two teenage boys are being given hero status for their rescue efforts of saving one another but no one has bothered to look into and publish anything about why the victim stayed underwater for thirty five minutes before anyone got to him. There may be no mystery here at all and the death may be due to a series of unfortunate circumstances but I think someone should try to determine what happened.
As far as injecting your petty politics into this scenario, especially since there are answers, I find it very distasteful and heartless
in response to OldMarcoMan: Maybe if we had a 1/2 Million Dollar Boat there,,,,Maybe if we had more Firemen,,,,,Maybe if we payed the Firemen more,,,,,,Maybe if we raised taxes and put in a substation,,,,,, Lets just face it, we have the best Fire/Rescue Department in the world,,,,,,,till we need them.
Maybe if we had a 1/2 Million Dollar Boat there,,,,Maybe if we had more Firemen,,,,,Maybe if we payed the Firemen more,,,,,,Maybe if we raised taxes and put in a substation,,,,,,
Lets just face it, we have the best Fire/Rescue Department in the world,,,,,,,till we need them.
This is not the place for politics or political rant. Let's get the facts, ok!
Sad to hear of this but I do have a question that I think is worth posting. Marco Fire and Rescue is only about 3 minutes from Mackle Park. How did this man stay under water for 30 minutes before rescue was able to retrieve him. The park is crowded that time of day. Was it not reported properly? Was the response time slow? I think that there should be some follow up by city officials or reporters to answer these questions to make sure the this matter was handled appropriatly.
in response to marcosandflea: So GLADESGATOR does not mind paying a little fee to keep the beach clean. The very same dingdongs that complain when their rights are ignored and complain about politicians. So GLADESGATOR like the rest of the Issler-types just go along and find it OK to commit environmental crimes as long as its their buddies the ones doing it and its OK to illegally charge for beach access as long as its their buddies doing the charging.
in response to marcosandflea:
So GLADESGATOR does not mind paying a little fee to keep the beach clean. The very same dingdongs that complain when their rights are ignored and complain about politicians. So GLADESGATOR like the rest of the Issler-types just go along and find it OK to commit environmental crimes as long as its their buddies the ones doing it and its OK to illegally charge for beach access as long as its their buddies doing the charging.
Crimes? What crimes, pray tell? Can you imagine what your homeowners dues would be if you had to pay for a beach club like Resident's beach. Marco residents don't need gated communities and don't need amenities that cost gated subdivision owners hundreds of dollars a month. Be thankful if you live on Marco Island and start respecting the law. Kramer should be ashamed!
in response to marcosandflea: Here is a suggestion for those being sued by MICA ... MICA has an illegal access to the beach. Decades old decision by Florida Supreme Court ruled that restricting access to any beach is illegal. By forcing tax-paying citizens of the community to pay to access the beach under the ruse that it is to park is illegal. So those being sued by MICA ought to force them off that illegal sham they have been perpetrating for decades thanks to their incestuous relationship with the syndicate (dare we now say criminal syndicate since they were fined by the EPA for violating the Clear Air Act?) And how about how MICA was silent when the good old boys were pumpming millions of gallons of toxic acid into the Gulf of Mexico because they supported the syndicate fraud sewer project? Or how MICA can NOT read a deed and therefore remained silent when those high school idiots wanted to build the school on the tract where the eagle is? We pray that MICA goes to court and all of these legal abuses get exposed by whomever they are suing.
Here is a suggestion for those being sued by MICA ... MICA has an illegal access to the beach. Decades old decision by Florida Supreme Court ruled that restricting access to any beach is illegal. By forcing tax-paying citizens of the community to pay to access the beach under the ruse that it is to park is illegal. So those being sued by MICA ought to force them off that illegal sham they have been perpetrating for decades thanks to their incestuous relationship with the syndicate (dare we now say criminal syndicate since they were fined by the EPA for violating the Clear Air Act?) And how about how MICA was silent when the good old boys were pumpming millions of gallons of toxic acid into the Gulf of Mexico because they supported the syndicate fraud sewer project? Or how MICA can NOT read a deed and therefore remained silent when those high school idiots wanted to build the school on the tract where the eagle is? We pray that MICA goes to court and all of these legal abuses get exposed by whomever they are suing.
Your rant is a bunch of nonsense! It is so nice to have access to the beach and the beautiful parks for a minimal fee.
It seems to me that Attorney Kramer is showing utmost disrespect for the rule of law and procedure. He has been well aware of MICA's stand and even represented MICA on the issue.
If he respected the rule of law he could have filed for a Declaratory Action to have a court rule on the issue before he started construction. He well know there would be a lawsuit but made himself bigger than the law and MICA and its members. I would hope people that respect the law would chose lawyers who also respect and honor the law.
in response to 2themoon: Heres a real crazy idea; how about taking the $$$ we spend on the redundant MIPD and MIFD and put it towards OUR own island 24 hr medical facilty... Oh wait a minute I think I'm steppn on some Marco syndicate toes, my idea will never fly.
in response to 2themoon:
Heres a real crazy idea; how about taking the $$$ we spend on the redundant MIPD and MIFD and put it towards OUR own island 24 hr medical facilty... Oh wait a minute I think I'm steppn on some Marco syndicate toes, my idea will never fly.
Not a bad idea. Staff it with a counselor so that anyone tempted to commit a crime could stop by for coffee and doughnuts and chat. And lets add a social worker to deal with families that are stressed and may otherwise be tempted to turn to crime. Lets close of the bridges to the island and don't anyone from the east coast cross.
While we are at it let’s nix code enforcement and instead streamline procedures for a common law nuisance action making it easy for someone who leaves cars in their yard to be sued for nuisance. The fired department must be replaced by a volunteer fire department. Lets require the beachfront hotels and condo to hire private security to patrol the beaches and adjacent roads. Commission the coast guard auxiliary and the Marco Yacht Club to patrol the waters.
Now what else can we do to get government off our back and our sticky fingers out of the cookie jar.
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in response to ed34145: The county provide public health care? In what alternate universe?
in response to ed34145:
The county provide public health care? In what alternate universe?
Have you ever heard of Health Department where poor people can get medical help on a walk in basis. Maybe some of you never experienced real life.
What if the county wanted to keep a local dougnut shop open all night so late night tokers could satisfy their munchies and just increased everyones tax because it would not otherwise be profitable for the doughnut shop to stay open all night? If the county is going to provide public health care then provide it equally to everyone but don't tax people for the convience of some who want access to a walk in clinic any time of the day or night. This is an outrage and the some head should roll for putting this stupid thing on th ballot. It's not the amount of the tax, its the principle of the thing.
Remember Hunter kissed up to the pizza guy, the pizza guy raised money for fireworks and made the city council look good and save face over the fireworks so we could celebrate justice and freedom on July 4th. Vote out the old guard City Council and bring in some new blood.
in response to Genuine: 6'4" 240 lbs., retired special forces. Let me know when you would like to take your first class in civility.
in response to Genuine:
6'4" 240 lbs., retired special forces. Let me know when you would like to take your first class in civility.
Yawn
in response to Genuine: Oh my! Words of wisdom from you - no charge.Controlling you - priceless!
Oh my! Words of wisdom from you - no charge.Controlling you - priceless!
I am glad you impress yourself but your fan club is quite small. Then again, perhaps you are used to small and your posts are an attempt for you to feel big.
in response to Genuine: ......as soon as you learn to spell. Have a lovely day.
......as soon as you learn to spell. Have a lovely day.
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in response to JohninMarco: I too must agree. Have attempted to meet with the chief only to find he is not in. Seems to either be at meetings or seminars. He does later return calls but I also wish he lived here not in Norh Naples.
in response to JohninMarco:
I too must agree. Have attempted to meet with the chief only to find he is not in. Seems to either be at meetings or seminars. He does later return calls but I also wish he lived here not in Norh Naples.
I suspect he is just a figure head, hired to make someone look good.
What can you expect from a city manager who wants to increase property tax to keep a walk in clinic open 24/7.
in response to Genuine: Get back to us when you learn to spell. As regarding the council, use your right to vote. Concerning Chief Hunter's compensation; why don't you muster up the courage and go to headquarters and ask him in person.
Get back to us when you learn to spell. As regarding the council, use your right to vote. Concerning Chief Hunter's compensation; why don't you muster up the courage and go to headquarters and ask him in person.
That is a cheap shot you little snot. Why don't you muster up some courage and quit brow nosing for a living.
You still did not answer my question.
in response to Genuine: Rolo, I suck up to no one! Further I have no affiliation with the MIPD. My upbringing is behind my respect for all who serve. Have a nice day.
Rolo, I suck up to no one! Further I have no affiliation with the MIPD. My upbringing is behind my respect for all who serve. Have a nice day.
The City Council serves! Look at the background of those guys and they work for nothing! Why not just answer my question and tell me what Hunter does to earn his salery.
Does he really make 150k a year?. It seems that would be enough for three full time officers. I really don't kmow what the Chief does so I can't be critical, I am just asking. Does the chief do anything that warrants a salary with benefits like that? Look at all the people running for city commission with many years of business or other experience willing to serve with virtually no pay. Why is it that we have to pay through the ying yang for a police chief?
The headline is misleading. Do Marco residents want higher property taxes for no reason?
I'd rather see the city spend that money on fireworks and we could really have a July 4th Celebration.
At last that is something the landowners could enjoy.
I support the community center. Again, something Marco Islanders could enjoy. You gotta wonder who would use the clinic anyway.
Any illegals hiding here on the island?
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