Okay Bloggers: Just for argument, let us say that Marriott complies with the 2001 PUD. Will we no longer see negative blogs with regard to the Marriott?? A simple parking solution http://www.stackparker.com/ can take care of any additional parking requirements without violating the 2001 PUD.Wish you all the best of luck and a HAPPY DAY IN MARCOEd Issler
As one that has better things to worry about and one who chooses to not get bogged down in negativity, I am getting the impression that if Marriott abides by the PUD then anything else would not concern most of you with regard to this application ??The parking issues can be easily resolved without adding an elevated parking structure. The cooling towers, in my opinion, can be engineered differently to lower the height, the elevation increase on the beach side does not affect the skyline whatsoever and the additional rooms requested are in accordance with zoning requirements.So what is next for you above that need to complain about something.Ed Issler
Kon____: You are grasping at straws. Even Ruth has the information that will tell you that 50% of MICA members are not voters (nor full time residents) on Marco island. They join MICA to go to the Residents Beach. Their home addresses are on file at MICA. Please go check for yourself.So, at best, we are talking about 1,600 voters, less than 10% of registered voters on the Island. The Planning Board and Council know these percentages. I am confident that they will vote what is in the best interest of MARCO ISLAND, not a few people that want this Island to be a retirement community. Let's wait and see. I am perfectly happy to do so !!!Ed Issler
Very encouraging. Good to see that the Planning Board wants all the informationEd Issler
OPEN LETTER TO MICARUTH: As a member and one of your most dynamic supporters, let me ask you one simple question:3,200 RESPONSES DOES NOT REPRESENT EVEN 25% OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS ON MARCO ISLAND AND NOT EVEN 20% OF THE FULL TIME RESIDENTS ON MARCO ISLAND. MY QUESTION PERTAINS TO THE QUESTIONS ASKED AND TO THE OPINION RENDERED."DID THE SURVEY, AND DOES THE MICA OPINION HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY MICA RESPONSIBILITIES OR ANYTHING THAT MICA IS CHARTERED TO DEAL WITH" ??With no basis or justification for any of this survey, it should not have been done in the first place and the MICA opinion, in this case, has no validity or basis.All the proposed activity is consistent with Deed Restrictions imposed by Deltona.To me what is more relevant is the fact that the Gas Station, Tire Shop, Motorcycle Shop, future Hotel and Gun range at Progressive Auto are all deed restricted. That is where MICA needs to render it's opinion and recommendations.Ed Issler
Lance: I would be very interested in knowing how much the Farmer's Market COSTS the City of Marco Island each week. It has long been a contention of mine that the City does not charge the vendors enough money for booth space each week for the privilege of taking our money. It would make a great article and research project. The booth space costs around $30 per week if bought for the entire period. With 110-115 booths the City has around $3500 income per week. There are 2-3 Police Officers there for 6 ours or 18 man-hours to be paid back to the Police Department. There are 2 City Employees that spend a total of 3 hours each setting up and then 3 hours taking down or 10-12 hours of City Employee time that needs to be re-paid back to the City. There is a person with the City to administrate the Market who spends ?? hours per year.Man-hours alone cost more than the Market income. We were told at one time that farmer's Market would operate independently of the City.I do not espouse to end Farmer's Market. I merely recommend that someone do the research necessary to turn it into a profit center for the Taxpayers by increasing the Booth fees.Ed Issler
Kon____: You had your chance on the STRP and got voted down by a LANDSLIDE. The STRP is now history. Stick to the story and the issue.Ed Issler
70 people attended and I know that at least one half would vote for the Marriott ina referendum, from the picture and names. another 10 people in the blogs, the same 10 people that have been blogging about this all along.Let's move on to a subject that has relevance. And yes, this expansion will not change Marco island or it'ambiance.put it to a referendum !! let's see once and for all who makes up the character of this Island. 2,500 votes will not stop this from approval by the voters.Ed Issler
I really had to take a moment and temper my response as there are bloggers above that have absolutely NO IDEA about what thet are talking about. My wife and I personally send 100's of people from the Marriott, each month, to eateries and businesses om Marco Island. I suggest to those of you above that actually want to know the truth, that you go around and ask the owners of the restaurants on Marco Island the following question "if the Marriott closed up, would your business be able to continue more than 1 year?".You people above that think that your property values and the appearance of Marco Island have nothing to do with the Marriott are burying your heads in the sand. That, along with the MIA and other local charities have their success directly related to the Marriott.I dare any one of you to speak with local business owners and let us know the results !!!It just goes to show how lame the arguments are and how naïve and out of date some of you are.Ed Issler
Hector: Congratulations and well deserved !!!Ed Issler
Dear Mr. Marchand: Please take a look at the original plan developed by Deltona Corporation. Not only does it represent the antithesis of a small Tropical "Town", but if not for Veteran's Park, our Island would be even more dense and have more traffic. The Marriott is the largest charitable organization on the Island. The Marriott pays the most County and City taxes on the Island. The delta that the Marriott is requesting will have no impact on your quality of life, if you are even here during summer. Yes, I am biased, but you need to appreciate the impact to restaurants and other businesses and your property values when you micro-analyze like you are doing.Ed Issler
I am surprised that the blogs thus far have glossed over the following:" a hotel/motel not to exceed 26 units per acre". How can this use be included and also make a statement that no increase in traffic or parking will occur ??
Someone needs to review the Deed Restrictions for this property. This is getting out of hand. I have to believe that guns are not allowed in the Deed Restrictions.
Also, the name of our new Planner is Joe Irvin, not Irving.Ed Issler
Mr. Breeze: There are now about 15-17,000 full time residents on Marco island. Most newcomers are families and the average age of a Marco island resident is going down. There are more than 60,000 seasonal residents on Marco Island. How many of them vote here I do not know.So please define for all of us what or who is "the average Marco Island Citizen"? I, personally, would be very interested to know that information. Just remember, as you answer, that most of our Council was elected with between 3-5,000 votes and every voter got 4 votes. So the average citizen, in my opinion, is hard to define.Ed Issler
To All: A referendum is a great idea, but probably not necessary. As I stated in my blog, above, here is a much cheaper method for the Marriott to meet the additional parking requirements and would not involve any "construction" on the east side of Collier Blvd. These do not violate any City Codes, nor are they considered construction and are MUCH CHEAPER !!!!http://www.stackparker.com/So keep in mind that doing this via a City approved process will be much more pleasing to the eye than landscaping front and back to hide, as much as possible, these double parking units.Ed Issler
Just want to remind all of you complainers of some numbers that have been presented and that are factual. The Marriott already operates at 95% occupancy during season. The proposed project was analyzed from the standpoint of increasing off season occupancy. I would venture to guess that many of you complainers are not even here during off season. But that is not the point. This "big increase" in truck traffic will not affect the Island any more than the car carriers that block Collier and park at Veterans Park and load and unload so many of your cars to come and go, on and off season. Marriott has done for more charities and this Island than all of you combined. This includes lowering, or keeping low, our City and County Taxes. Marriott can do this project, without City permission, by installing dual level Parking Units that are used similarly in parking lots in New York, as an example. But as a good neighbor, they are trying to come up with a better looking alternative for the Island.Yes, my viewpoint is biased. Yes my wife has a store (for 21 years now) at the Marriott. But just be careful what you wish for.Ed Issler
I am actually more impressed with Mr. Peck for recognizing the disorganization and political confusion of our Council. It sounds to me that he should have been the one to be convinced to stay. As much as I will support our new City Manager, it sounds to me like he got the "spoils" in the process.Ed Issler
Hascle: You bring up an interesting question. You can contact MICA and request the Deed Restrictions on these lots or you can go online to County Records and find them yourself. Funny enough, it may very well end up that these lots may be Deed Restricted against the uses they are proposing. The Planning Board and Council do NOT deal with Deed restrictions. They do not even look at them nor are they of concern to the City. It is up to MICA to enforce them. I certainly suggest to Rose Marina that they check with MICA before moving forward.
To AJM3: You need to keep in mind that the City may be allowing this to make the Marina a viable business. Rose Marina, MANY, MANY years ago submitted plans for a Condo project on their property and got approvals. So, be assured that if the business is not profitable, we lose a Marina and gain more Condos. Just keep that in mind as we discuss alternatives and Uses.Ed Issler
1Paradiselost: Did I touch a nerve?? It would be great to know who you actually are ?? The answer to your question, by the way, is NONE !!! And there is no asbestos in my backyard or in the Park, unless you can find it !!!It is your McCarthyism attitude that puts a ball and chain on your ability to think clearly and enjoy this great Island. If you recall, we had a "pseudo referendum" on the STRP and a landslide of voters voted for the slate of candidates that were in favor of the STRP. 61% of voters voted to buy the Park. Face it, you are in a minority of residents and it is my hope that you will continue to be.Ed Issler
Wouldn't it be nice to have recordings of the "meetings" that take place 2-3 times a week at Dunkin Donuts between Mr. Sacher, Mr. Hoenecker, Mr. McMullan (Konfuzious, in my opinion) and Dwayne Thomas. Maybe we can get them to look under their table every time (for a bug) or watch for a Private Investigator monitoring their audio to get the actual conversations that take place.Just saying it would be a "Nice To Have" documentary. Sunshine Law ??innuendo does not count for anything. Larry, you are innocent until proven otherwise. But please re-read your statement. It sounds so much like Bill Clintons' famous "I did not have ___ with that woman" statement. It gsve me a good laugh just due to the similarity, only.Ed Issler
Toom many bloggers want to make their comments personal and it really gets in the way of meaningful dialogue. The LTE complains about the waste of City money for having Police at the Farmers Market. My point was clearly stated that the Police are paid by the Farmers Market "income", not by the City. My other point that I expressed was whether or not, as a break even event, is the Farmers Market worth having ?? 2,000 residents, about 15% of the full time, non-season residents, attend this event. For those that do attend, it appears to be a fun time. I just feel that the City should be making money from this event and not just breaking even.Ed Issler
The Farmers Market is a break even proposition due to all the expenses that it incurs each week. The booth fees should be higher. The City should be making money from this event. But the Police expenses are paid back to the City by the Farmers Market. Also, the 50-60 City man-hours each week dedicated to the Farmers Market are paid back (I hope) to the City by the Farmers Market.I live very close, but have never been to the Farmers Market. I assume that the 2000 residents that attend are getting their moneys worth.Is it worth having ?? Just a question for the populous. I thought the City was making tons of revenue from the Farmers Market. I was shocked to learn, about 2 months ago, that it is a break even.Ed Issler
I do not bring up your dine in Movie Theatre, when you post. I see no reason to bring up my wife's business when I post facts, not opinions. If you read closely, you will see that I bring up the concept of referendum. Are you opposed to that ??My wife's business is fine either way, thank you.
Without any judgment either way, I suggest that more PUD's done during the history of Marco Island have been amended than have not been amended. Some that come to mind are Esplanade, Pier 81, Marco Town Center, Marco Walk, and if we check, I imagine many of the condo projects along the beach qualify in the amended category. I still say put it to a vote to convince those that do not believe. Ed Issler
Again, plenty of opinions and facts. Another fact relating to the original LTE, Marriott is building an 8'8" high parking structure, not a two tier Parking structure.Ed Issler
Irrespective of my opinion, which I will state is very much in favor of the Marriott plans, so much of what is being said is emotional rather than factual.First, whether the Marriott does this expansion or not, Parking will be 100% Valet parking. Second, Marriott is proposing to add 90, ninety, rooms. Not hundreds of rooms. As Marriott stated, they already operate at 95% occupancy during season. That is a fact. The request is being made so that during off season, more corporations will be attracted to the Marriott due to the added Convention space. I would bet that at least 50% of those commenting are not even here during summer. And for those that are, this kind of business will not impact traffic or your lifestyle one iota.And for those that did not want the State Mandated Bridge Expansion (due to Evacuation and Population requirements), this has nothing to do with the Marriott.There are those that will try to diminish my comments due to the fact that my wife has a business at the Marriott (for 21 years), but that has nothing to do with my thought process. Our Island can only grow so much and we need the Tax Base to continue to operate. This is as non-impactful a tax revenue boost as I can think of.Ed Issler
How naïve of you bloggers. There is nothing more that I would love than to have this be a referendum issue !!! It would really show how much of a minority those opposed to this expansion are. There are those that hang their hat on the fact that the PUD should not be changed. One can review historic records from Collier County and the City and find that the majority of PUD's are amended in one way or another. I can think of a couple off the top including Pier 81, Esplanade and the PUD that Dale Glon filed.Find another issue as this one has left the station. Yes, let's put Mackle Park and the Marriott to a Referendum vote. Probably will not happen as Council knows that the majority of Islanders are in favor of the Marriott expansion. By the way, did any of you listen?? The Marriott runs 95% occupancy during season already. The expansion is to boost off season occupancy which is good for the entire Island (except those who want to close the bridge).Ed Issler
Ray: Totally uncalled for. It is because of our Veterans that you are able to post that ridiculous, and not funny, blog in the first place. Your satirical comments are very often laughable, but in this case, they are in bad taste.Ed Issler
Mr. Harris: I really appreciate the fact that you put your name to your thoughts and blogs. However, you do not SOLELY hold the answers to any issues in your thoughts. While I certainly do not always agree with Mr. Sacher, it would be my suggestion that you be more humble in your suggestions. I find many of them to be "out there" and not in tune with present day Marco Island.Ed Issler
The walkways have been eliminated. The last I heard the bridge could not be raised due to gradients and the fact that this would affect a home on the south side of the bridge.It needs to be replaced for the least amount of money.Ed Issler
Bryan: The Farmer's Market brings in hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. Could we not use this money to do a couple of things ?? Pay back the debt for Veteran's park and to fund the new Community Center ??Or is this money already earmarked for other purposes ?Ed Issler
Mr. Harris: If you follow the bridge epic, you would know that raising the bridge is not possible due to slope limitations and the effect this would have on adjoining lots. I think AJM3 has clarified your error as there is no way that this bridge could have a 98 plus rating.I know at one time there was talk of having a walkway from Veteran's Park to the Esplanade. This is actually in the Master Plan. But I guess that was dropped also due to cost and politics.The bridge needs to be replaced. But it does not have to be a super structure. Every time I drive under the bridge, I fear for my life. It is beyond repair, in my Civil Engineering background. Ed Issler
Man, oh Man !!! It is hilarious and never ceases to amaze me how quickly people want to forget the TRUTH. The ONLY, I repeat ONLY Referendum we ever really had on the STRP issue (and one was never required) was the election where a slate of pro STRP candidates were running against a slate of ant STRP candidates. The pro STRP candidates won by a LANDSLIDE, the largest margin of victory in Marco Island Election history. Certainly not an "official" Referendum, but a great indicator of how the majority of voters on the Island felt about STRP.But enough about the past. There are those that want to languish in the past and do nothing but complain.We all should enjoy our Paradise.Ed issler
Mr. McMullan/Konfuzious: You, of all people, should know that the Marriott case has NOTHING to do with MICA. Rather it is a zoning and City requirements issue, along with a change to an existing PUD, which is also a City issue.There are no Deed Restrictions that apply to the Marriott's desire and request. MICA will not be involved and should not be involved.Here's hoping you do not lose too much sleep or enjoyment in life over the Marriott issue. I had only hoped that it could have been a referendum so that the few who oppose it would realize what the majority of our Islanders want. But I do not see it as being necessary or relevant at this point.Ed Issler
A great outcome. An excellent example of "If you can't win, buy the votes". Thank you to MICA for standing up for what WAS right. As a refresher, the property owner vote done earlier in the game was not valid as one of the owners had sold their property.Now, the process has been done correctly and congratulations to all parties for what has transpired.Ed Issler
2the moon: Just out of curiosity, why in the World would that make a difference as it pertains to this article.
One of these days you will realize that Mr. Pettricia won by 144 votes over a candidate who has only himself to blame for the loss as he did no campaigning at all.
Celebrate Marco, in concept, is still a majority opinion on this Island and only time will tell. I still think we should have a referendum on the Marriott !!!Ed Issler
All the Marriott has to do is make an arrangement with the Vacation Club that is where the Radisson used to be. There is plenty of space for Marriott parking (what they require) and they could buy some of the density if they need it. Thwe Vacation Club will not be using all the density that comes with that property, anyway. Joey's has leased additional parking and there is no reason why Marriott cannot do the same. With a Valet Shed and some Golf Carts, the Marriott woyuld be good to go.
So many solutions to what amounts to such a small problem. Let's all just enjoy all that the Island has to offerEd Issler
Someone above mentioned MIA using the New Life Church property for their temporary campus. Our neighborhood hired a lawyer and we met with Deltona and MICA. There are Deed Restrictions on this property prohibiting the property from being used as a school.Marriott is not violating any Deed Restrictions.Move on regarding that subject.Ed Issler
There are naysayers that beg for the Marriott to be "neighborly". This word carries with it many attributes. The Marriott, throughout their history on Marco Island, has been more "neighborly" than any retiree or neighbor on the Island. Whether it is supporting local schools or donating to charities or assisting charities and Marco organizations in the accomplishment of their goals, the Marriott has always been there !!!All while going about their business with minimal disruptions of our Island Lifestyle and lives.A few of those naysayers suggested a Referendum. I say go for it. The Marriott has been so helpful to so many that a vote would only reinforce how most of us feel.Ed Issler
Let's vote on the issue. All the school parents will vote for Marriott, all organizations, all charity people, etc. The Marriott is more "neighborly" than anybody posting on this site, all 20 of you.Ed Issler
Yes, it is about time. Referendum is the way to go. Finally the 20 or so bloggers on this site and the 2000 or so naysayers will see how the majority of Marco Island feels. It will be over the 61% that voted for the Park (all the above were against the Park and were convinced it would not pass) that will approve this expansion.It does not pay to argue, as we will never agree and will not know unless we all vote !!!Ed Issler
My wife has been at the Marriott going into her 21st year. Probably longer than many of you have lived here. The Marriott, according to the presentation, is looking for ADDITIONAL convention space, not a new convention center. The Marriott has been doing/hosting conventions since its' inception. To listen to the FEW this is a new concept. Not the case.And my wife's business will be just fine no matter what happens, thank you.Ed Issler
WMissow: My last comment will hopefully get you to get the facts straight when you blog in the future. There is an agreement in place that prohibits Marriott from constructing a parking garage, or any structure on the east side of Collier Blvd. That is the ONLY agreement in place. There are MANY options that are available to Marriott in order for them to get additional parking spaces and I have suggested some of them in an earlier blog. I do not know how long you have been blogging on this site, but you should have realized long ago that the majority of comments come from those that complain the most or want this Island to return to the old days. That just will not happen. We have a vibrant new family population with children who go to school and enjoy everything that the Island has to offer. There is a lot more commercial land zoned on this Island. You should worry about that and not so much about what happens at the Marriott. Heck, for all we know, you could have a hidden agenda as a neighbor behind the Marriott Parking Lot.Ed Issler
Boy, talk about being mis-quoted. It should be more like the accuser being misinformed. None of what WMissow has stated above is correct. None of it. Oh, except for the fact that our neighborhood banded together when the MIA was considering placing what is now on Sam Marco on a portion of the Church across from Veteran's Park. Yes, we hired a lawyer and found the Deed Restrictions and spoke to Deltona and MICA and got that idea halted. And good for us !!!
The issue here is that the Marriott can do whatever is permitted on their property (or Mass Mutual's property) as long as it meets zoning and Deed Restrictions. The Marriott is the largest supporter of charities, is thre main reason MIA exists today, and has done nothing but good for the Island and its' citizens since its' existence.The only item holding the Marriott back from doing what they desire is PARKING !! The new Convention Center, new Rooms, new restaurant and whatever else is planned is all within zoning regulations. And there are many avenues available to the Marriott to overcome the parking limitation.The City has another Hotel planned for the Marco Town Center area and I would think you all would be much more upset and against that concept than this one.Let's not complain just for the sake of complaining. Let's move on to something more relevant. By the way, Frank Recker lost by 144 votes. We have 2 (two) term limits for Council. That is why we have rotation, not because of any particular ideology. I guarantee that Bill Trotter would have won if he had been allowed to run again, as an example.Ed Issler
All of the above comments are hilarious, as they actually represent a point of view that would have some citizens changing the wzoning regulations on their own. The Marriott has always been a good neighbor, and again, was here long before many of you that are complaining.If the Marriott can build what they are looking to build within City guidelines and zoning, then they will build it and you will not notice any difference. And my bet is that it will be built. The ONLY item holding up this project would seem to be parking. And since the only future parking will be Valet parking, according to the presentation, there are many ways for the Marriott to accomplish that. They could buy another lot close by, they could lease spaces from another property close by (as Joey's did), or they could do something like the solution below:
So you can keep crying and complaining which many of you do on a regular basis, but based on ingenuity and aggressiveness, this expansion will most likely happen.Ed Issler
Over 90% of Marriott guests do not arrive via individual automobiles, so any reference to increased car traffic is not a valid one. The Marriott,as far as rooms are concerned, runs 100% during season right now with the conventions they have now. The new Convention space, according to the presentation, is to assist in building up the off season occupancy. Some of you are painting pictures that just are not so. The Marriott Hotel, as a structure, was here long before many of you, in fact most of you. It is funny that so many of you arew complaining. Redviewing old blogs, it was the same group of people that complained aboyut the Collier Storm Drain project and made comments like "we don' care about flooding and traffic", "we want to keep Collier Blvd the same". Now the same people are blogging about that traffic that they did not care about before.Give it a rest. The Island is growing and schools, parks, commercial and infra-structure needs and will grow with it.Very few are interested in your "Retirement Community" and your doom and gloom !!!Ed Issler
Dear Bonnie: Please get specific on what impact you, as a Island resident, will experience from this expansion. I have only been here 14 years and I cannot come up with any impact that I will see other than a loweruing of my tax bill due to an increase in the Marriott's contribution.Ed Issler
To AJM3: I just want to make certain that you are aware that the "City of Naples" is the same size, 20 square miles, as Marco Island. many of the buildings you are so paranoid about lie outside the City and are serviced by County Services or are paid to the City of Naples by County Taxes. If you are not happy using the City of Naples, I suggest you refer to information from the City of Venice, which yields the same conclusions/results.Ed Issler
Bill: Your conclusions are not based on any designs or engineering assumptions. Are you part of the Architectural team ?? We alol know you have an agenda. Why not just wait until a design is put forth and if your questions are not answered, ask them at that time. I am certain that all the concerns you express will not be an issue in the final product.Ed Issler
Dear Marriott: I have a much better idea to rectify all of these issues. We start with the concept that the additional parking spots are a requirement for City Codes due to a new restaurant, new rooms, etc. and are not an actual requirement for the operation of the Hotel. Except for a few times a year, for local conventions, MOST guests do not have cars at the Hotel as they come in via Airport Bus or Airport Services. Transient guests will go down due to an increase in Convention bookings. This will reduce parking requirements even further.So how to create the spaces you need ?? My suggestion is to purchase and install the two level parking devices that are used throughout the City of New York. These are set in place (no construction) and depending on how many you install, can meet all the requirements for parking. You can install these across the entire rear of the property, sides of the property, on the west side at each end of the property. This would be MUCH more reasonable than construction, would get around your restriction for construction on the east side of Collier Blvd and since you will have only Valet Parking, should be good to use to park cars. You can buy a lot close by, if needed, for employee parking and run a shuttle. When someone enters the employee lot, a signal tells the shuttle driver that someone needs pick up.Again, the second level of parking should not be needed that often. But it creates the spaces required in order to meet code.I am assuming that these are permitted fro use in Marco Island. Landscaping can hide these totally from anyone's view.Anyway, that is my thought.Ed Issler
Herb: The Master Plan for Marco Island, designed by the Mackle Brothers, is MUCH more development oriented than what our Island is today. Veterans Park was destined to be Hotel and Commercial, IAW the Master Plan, but thank Glenn we have a Park. As you drive Collier Blvd. you will see parcels of vacant land that would have high rise condos and/or hotels if not for the economic turndown. These lots will most likely have those high rises one day, thanks to the Mackle Brothers. They did a GREAT job creating Marco island. But let's not kid ourselves just for the sake of a golf course or parking garage. Somebody should do an analysis of the expected tax revenue, both City and County, if the Marriott is permitted their request. I would rather them pay it than me.Ed Issler
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