Comments by sharkfloss

Written on Not in my backyard: Opposition to location may not prevent Marco Island’s proposed charter high school:

Klabs,

Those of us who you are knocking have the same rights as anyone else. If we want a place that is quiet, peaceful and what we moved here for we have that right. No matter what amount of rambling about other issues, the fact is if you believe that a referendum is the answer then go by what that majority wants. Stop swinging both ways on your comments or you will lose yet another person trying to communicate with you.

Written on Not in my backyard: Opposition to location may not prevent Marco Island’s proposed charter high school:

Klabs,

I know the airport arguement has been thrown around, but....Did not the people who moved here knowing full well that this was a retirement community as well, that it did not have a high school. You see my dear Klabs, there are two sides to every story. You have to be cognizant of the fact that the City Council members are listed as volunteers on the Community School's appplication, although that they deny that. I think you should be asking them what they intend to do with the property since they are the ones that could be voting on it.

I too, would like to find out what the hidden agenda is, if you find out factually, let me know because I do not have any idea other than what I have posted.

All because Daytona intended something 30 or 40 ago does not make it right for the here and now.

Did you know that one of the other school sites that Deltona deeded as a school site turned into something other than a school?

Written on Letter to the Editor: Wrong place for high school:

We need to know facts and figures for this whole idea, which have to be discussed openly in a public forum. There are too many "agendas' going on, all of which have to be verbalized, not just on this or any other blog, for our whole community to hear. There have to be studies to find out if 'in fact" we need or do not "need" a High School.

Someone said we can not have a referendum in November. Is this true? Why not? If not, then when? There has to be professional, non biased, studies done.

One week it's going to be here, the next week it's going to be there. Nobody really knows what in Heaven's name is really going on.

This whole thing is a complete mess and without broad community support, how does one really know if we need it or for that matter, expect it to be successful?

Written on Letter to the Editor: Wrong place for high school:

I would not want to "guess" at any of this. I am not a professional. No matter where this school is placed a "traffic impact study" must be done. High school kids, who drive, are quite a bit different than moms are, wouldn't one think?

Written on VIDEO/POLL: No pants for women: New Ave Maria dress code draws mixed reviews :

Now lets remember ladies.......No patent leather shoes because the boys will be able to see up your skirt!

Written on VIDEOS/PHOTOS: 6 Collier teachers surprised with Golden Apple Awards:

Oh, a teacher taught me correctly. "our" not "hour".

Written on VIDEOS/PHOTOS: 6 Collier teachers surprised with Golden Apple Awards:

It is still a sad commentary on our educational value system. An educator of 100s of our children gets honored by a significant award and is given $2000 for the hundreds of if not thousands of hours of dedicated work. Compare this to the millions of dollars in bonuses which are given out in the business and sports world for a significant lessor contribution to hour society. Do you have to ask the question why education doesn't work well in this country?

Written on POLL: Deadline nears for voters to rename Veterans’ Memorial Park:

Whoops. Wrong Park! The Elkam Park should be Veterans's Memorial were more can see and appreciate it. The small park could be called "Don't blink or you will miss me Park"!

Written on POLL: Deadline nears for voters to rename Veterans’ Memorial Park:

How about "The Infamous Home Of The Asbestos Photos That Never Were Lie Park"!

Written on Letter to the Editor: Open letter to Councilor-elect Larry Magel:

Split the island into several voting districts, like was done with the sewer project. Have a representative from each district be elected to council. This was mentioned above. It is fair and makes sense. The only reason to vote against it is for special, greedy interests. This is the only way group on the island can be fairly represented.

Written on Letters to the Editor: Unwelcome signs:

I too, am wondering why the amount of no parking signs that were put up were necessary.
Possible reasons:

1.Older people are near- sighted.
2. Younger people have to be reminded over and over.
3. Someone is related to the sign maker.
4. Possible County discount on purchasing by the "bakers dozen".
5. Landing spots for birds.
6. Target practice.
7. Failure to read the instructions by the sign installation people.
8. Maybe "they" just don't want us to park there.

Written on Letter to the Editor: Single shot voting: It’s legal, but is it ethical:

Oh, I get it now. I have seen the Light!
It's not how you play the game that counts. Do what you have to do to win! That is some lesson for our children on Marco!!!

Written on Letter to the Editor: Single shot voting: It’s legal, but is it ethical:

Mr. Issler,

Oh, is it now "two wrongs make a right"?
The process is "MANIPULATION" no matter how you spell it. It is "WRONG" and plays into the hands of poor candidates. Once again "Animal Farm" comes to mind. "All pigs are created equal, but some pigs are more equal than others!" Do you see the correlation?
The election also showed that at least 73% did not vote for any one of the candidates. That means that almost 3/4 of the potential voters did not believe in any one of the candidates. You can play with those numbers any way you wish and the outcome becomes the same.

Written on Letter to the Editor: Single shot voting: It’s legal, but is it ethical:

Mr. Issler.

Once again......I know what a majority is.....it is not 26.7%. You are part of at most the "majority" of a manipulated "minority".
Now who is kidding who?

Written on Letter to the Editor: Single shot voting: It’s legal, but is it ethical:

I can not understand how one can consider "manipulation" "bullet voting" as a fair election tactic. In legal gambling "card counting" is a "manipulation" that is illegal in casinos because it gives an unfair advantage to the card counter and the owners of the casinos can not stand for that. "Of course not, it takes money out of their pockets!". What is the illegality of using ones brain to take advantage of its potential?
Then why is it, "manipulation", acceptable in voting. It is a tactic that gives an unfair advantage to a single candidate. It may be "legal" but some things "legal" can become illegal over time. Please do not tell me that those who voted using this tactic honestly knew what they could about all of the candidates and that the "manipulated" 1100 bullet voters thought that only one was a viable candidate. I have more respect for the intelligence of those who have made Marco Island their home than accepting that.

Written on VIDEO: Jack Hanna attends dinner to raise money for Naples Zoo’s planned giraffe exhibit:

This is one "sticking your neck out" for!
Good Luck.

Written on PHOTO GALLERY: 'Roadshow' experts fill Spring Appraisal Faire:

The Spring Appraisal Faire was a real treat.
All of the best of wishes to the new Marco Island Historical Museum and all those who were involved with its planning and construction.

Written on Letters to the Editor Ticketing softball fans:

Talking about correct English:

"to close to the road" should be "too close to the road" Are we now ready for a spelling bee?

Written on Letters to the Editor Ticketing softball fans:

Assumption: Softball players and fans can read signs like the rest of us.
This is not a country club where their police (rent-a-cop) have the time to stop doing their jobs and get on the loud speaker and let people know that they are breaking the law. Read the signs and obey them. Thank You

Written on Letter to the Editor: Election -- Bullet point:

A SERIOUS POINT TO PONDER!!!!!!!!

73% OF THE POSSIBLE VOTERS DID NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES EVEN THOSE WHO WON.

There are a lot of unhappy potential voters out there. I hope you realize this before it takes us all down.

Written on POLL: Septic-to-cistern conversion banks rainwater for irrigation:

Correcton: Calculation was done on $3.48 per 1000 gallons not the 1200 as previously posted.

Written on POLL: Septic-to-cistern conversion banks rainwater for irrigation:

The third assumption is that all of this water gets calculated into savings if it goes into a cistern.
The trouble is your tank only holds at most 1400 gallons which tends to stay in the tank because it has already rained enough so the irrigation system is not used. In reality it may only get used three times per month if and only if the dry days get too far apart. You also have to remember that once the cistern is empty your city water has to kick in to take up the slack.
Now let us do the calculations using this information as a basis. Sixteen waterings during dry season; 12 waterings during rainy season give me a total of 28 waterings that could counted as savings generated by a cistern. If one uses 1,200 gallons per watering multiplied by 28 you have a total of 33,600 gallons of water saved. Let us now calculate that at the present rate of $3.48 per 1,200 gallons your savings come out to be slightly over $97 (28 x 3.48) per year. Remember that this takes the average rainfall of Southwest Florida and not what actually occurs here on the island which by my experience has been less. Also take into account the $25 lost in interest each year from the initial $1000 investment. This leaves us with a yearly savings of $72.
Final assumption: Cost of conversion could be about $1000+. This does not seem to include added pumps, electrical work that may be necessary on individual job site situations which would ultimately increase this cost. But, for argument’s sake take the $1000 as the actual cost divide that by $72 savings per year and I come up with 13.9 years to recover the initial expense. If the system conversion costs more than $1000 the number of years will be increased proportionally. None of these figures take into consideration general repairs to the system over the years. I do not think that this would be a prudent investment decision for most people. Let’s hope that our cost of water does not increase to make this a make this plan a fiscally reasonable plan.
If one is considering environmental concerns of water usage that decision would be up to them. But financially speaking it does not work for me.
Green for the environment: YES
Green for your wallet. NOT SIGNIFICANT

Written on POLL: Septic-to-cistern conversion banks rainwater for irrigation:

Please read and consider prior to voting in the above poll. There are two parts posted.)
There are several assumptions and calculations that each one of us should make prior to conversion of septic to cistern.
The first assumption is that it rains here on Marco the same as it does in Naples. In the several years that I have lived on Marco I can not count the times that I watched the storm clouds pass to the East of Marco and rain profusely in Naples and here on Marco there was very little or no rain at all. This is important because the calculations we have generally been given are based upon the amount of rain in Naples. (Calculations below are based on average S.W. Florida rainfall and therefore produce a greater savings than here on Marco.)
The second assumption given was that an inch of rain produced approximately 1288 gallons of water that could be used for irrigation if it was routed to a cistern. This assumption could work during the months of January through May and then again October through December. In those months I calculated the maximum potential rainfall as posted on the internet for Southwest Florida would produce enough rainfall for approximately 19 waterings. During these months there could be 19 inches of rain. This assumption does not take into consideration what happens to the rainwater that occurs when the cistern is filled up. Once the 1,400 gallon tank is filled the remaining water has to be routed elsewhere. This means that the 19 potential waterings gets reduced by the amount of times the tank cannot hold any more water. Let us say this happens only three times. Now we have 16 waterings to save us money. Also consider that the 1400 gallon tank does not get completely emptied as there will most likely be residual water left below the pipe line. Now we have to calculate for the rainy season, which is June through September. During this period we have 33.5 inches or rainfall in Southwest Florida. I don’t know about everyone but during these months my irrigation system hardly gets any use. Why? There is enough rainfall during that time, which averages over 8 inches per month, to not have to use the irrigation system much at all.

Written on POLL: Septic-to-cistern conversion banks rainwater for irrigation:

Congratulations on you cistern installation. But please do not obfuscate some of the facts.

1.In a month of dry season you were able to save on 1400 gallons 2 times. In rainy season you will fill the tank and it will stay filled for a long time because it will not be needed and the rain will take care of the watering. Have you really figured how many actual use to fillings your system will do thru a complete yearly cycle. I did some time ago and it was not that many as to save, in quite a few years, the average cost of installion, which was posted by a city council member at that time. My calculations figured about a 15 year payback. (Figures upon request).

2. I calculated that my whole system uses approsimately 1200 gallons per watering cycle. This means that your two fillings of 1400 gallons each will cover 2 plus waterings. What do you do for the other 6 waterings a month? Do you not water or do you use city water?

In my opinion this by no means a money saving proposition for the average homeowner who will not do most of the installation work him/herself. Now one has to consider future repairs for two systems, the original and the cistern.

Bottom line:

Good for the environment. YES
Money Saving......VERY DOUBTFUL

Written on Two new Marco council members elected, recount pits two incumbents:

in response to lauralbi1:

You know, I guess some of you are right. We should not get wrapped up in the numbers. So, I guess we can all agree that Mr. Magel go the most amount of votes. I can tell you that having Mr. Magel get elected was something I was very intent on assisting with. We can all agree that those of you that blogged above wanted to elect Forcht, Kiester and Batte, which did not happen.
I can tell you, whether you want to believe it or not, that if another candidate had run with the same views and background as Mr. Magel, he or she would have won also, including Rob Popoff.
It gives me great satisfaction to inform you that you can win the battle you have created above, but the next election will have the same type of results and will give us a Council with the same vision for Marco Island as the one we will have now. Five to Two, baby. And, if Mr. Batte is the independent person he claims to be, it may even be worse for you (but I doubt it, but let's give him a chance). So if any of you, especially JW, think it is going to change, I suggest you change your thinking and decide to enjoy your life here or move.
Hopefully, the Milage rate, next year, as an example, will be high enough to support our Capital Projects needs and a reasonable, minimal City Budget.
Not like this year. And that is the type of Council and City that the majority wants and has voted for.
Ed Issler

We should agree that not one of the candidates got a MAJORITY of anything other than those votes that were cast. Not one of them got more than 27% of the possible votes. All of them will have to contend with the 73% of the population that either did not bother to vote or did not vote for that particular candidite.
Many of those that did not vote, obviously did not care or gave up on fighting the "system". In order to correct this problem I would suggest the following:
1. Transparency in all actions of City Council.
2. Sufficient public notice to any significant action to be addressed at Council meetings. (Naming a City Hall is considered significant in my estimation.)
3. Giving all the voters of this City the respect by listening to them at public meetings and attempting to act in good faith on their behalf, if and when possible.
4. Not attempting to diminish the significance of public suggestions made by manipulating statistics in favor of Council's intentions.

Many of us here on Marco, love this island, and wish for it to reach its full potential for as many of us as possible. Until the actions by certain members of this community relinquish their attitudes exemplified in "Animal Farm", (All pigs are created equal, but some pigs are "more equal" than others) will we all be able to come together and enjoy our lovely island and each other to their fullest potential.

Written on A center cut Filet Mignon from St. George and the Dragon. Kelli Stanko/Special to the Daily News.:

Absolutely, the best prime ribs I have had anywhere!

Written on Two new Marco council members elected, recount pits two incumbents:

Correction:

After checking my information I found out that PT Barnum never said the earlier referenced comment but was one of his competitors. For some odd reason PT had it attributed to him.
(The things we learn by a little research!)

Written on Two new Marco council members elected, recount pits two incumbents:

in response to lauralbi1:

Boy, what a place. Even an election and the results can't get some of you to realize what the majority of voters want on this Island. If you read Mr. Magels brochure (it did not cost $1.00 by the way) you would see that he has served on County Committees and Commissions. Much more than many candidates and much more experience than many candidates.
But, we all are in the same position, the majority has spoken and we now can wait to see the results.
Point being that I am certain I will be happy with much of what Mr. Magel will do and say and how he will vote, whereas, those that supported Mr. Kiester may not be as happy. I hope that Mr. Kiester is the one who learns from this. He is representing all of us, not just a small special interest group.
The votes are in and the results are very telling, whether some of you want to accept them is a different story.
Ed Issler

Lauralbi1,

I really think you have to get all of your ducks in order. On one post you sat that Magel should represent the 27% who voted for him, here you say he should represent all voters. If he represents the true majority of possible voters he would be representing those that did not vote for him (73%). That makes no sense and for the most part neither do you. I think P.T. Barnum had you in mind some years back.

Written on Two new Marco council members elected, recount pits two incumbents:

in response to ezeee:

Issler, using your fuzzy math logic, Magel received 61% Batte 58% and Kiester and Forcht received 57% respectively but waite a minute that would bring the total percentage of the vote to 233%. Issler you are a complete idiot.

ezee,

It is not nice calling someone a "complete idiot". That gives him too much credit ;-)

Written on Two new Marco council members elected, recount pits two incumbents:

Fossil,

You can hear a resounding "Amen" to your comment coming from this neighborhood.

Written on Letter To The Editor: Newly elected councilman offers thanks; asks to hear from you:

Lauralbi,

I think you should get your figures correct. Mr. Magel should be representing ALL of the people on Marco and not just the 26% that actually voted for him. His job is to do what is best for ALL of Marco not just the limited amount you actually point out. Any thing less than this is totally unacceptable by any standard. I do not know where you get you lopsided opinions from but they are not from a democratic society.

Written on PHOTOS/DOCS/BLOG: It's official, Kiester wins in Marco ballot recount:

Transparency and open dialogue will be what will bring much of the above diverseness to a happy ending. (Fortune cookie 101).

Written on Two new Marco council members elected, recount pits two incumbents:

Dear Lauralbi 1,

Please stop using the statistical manipulation of saying 61% of the voters and use the correct 61% of those who voted. You have to remember that this represetentss 27% of the eligible voters and not 61% of the voters. The remaining 73% did NOT vote for the STRP or Mr. Magel. This is voter apathy or just plain voter tired of being "put down" by City Council.

Written on Letter To The Editor: Newly elected councilman offers thanks; asks to hear from you:

Councilman elect Magel,

First let me wish you my best wishes for your new position. I would like to take this time to ask several questions and point out some facts.
Will you be representing all of our interests on Marco Island or will you be "only" representing the 26% of eligible voters who voted for you? If it is the latter you will be in for a challenging time. There are quite a few in the remaining 74% who for some reason did not vote at all or vote for you. We have spent several years here on Marco experiencing what appears to be a city council that only caters to "special interests". That may have led to the low percentage of voter turnout. This apathy has been caused by the earlier actions of negating the wishes of voters at council meetings and "managed" information.
If you are the councilman that you said you would be, this gives you the opportunity to change that appearance. Will you be that person or will you be one of those who have made promises but no sooner elected changed their direction? I know, time will tell.

Written on Photos/Docs/BLOG: Marco Island City Council election too close to call:

Majority of 48% is what you have and that is not a true majority. It is somewhere around 26%-27% of the voting owners. That means that 73% did not care enough to vote for any of the candidates. The problem is apathy on the part of the voting population. It is a shame that for a place as beautiful as Marco Island that so much apathy exits. I would not say any of the candidates has a mandate in any way with only 26% or 27% of the voters voting for them and I hope that none of the candidates start their term thinking that they have a mandate from anyone. They have a job to do and I pray that they do their job well.

Written on Letter To The Editor: Sadly laughable:

Liberator100,

I was wondering...do you have photos of what you are saying or is it just the ghost of Mr. E.G.T. speaking thru you?

Written on Letter To The Editor: Sadly laughable:

Marcoorig,

You probably live in a Deltona home that had sewers and did not have to pay for the STRP.
It is rest of the island that is paying for the "divide and conquer" perpetrated by our city Council. Are you not astute enough to see what was done? Maybe if your tax bill will go up by the amount we have to pay for sewers you would feel differently.

Written on Letter To The Editor: Sadly laughable:

I am truly dismayed by the way that our City Council has, again, shown its disdain for the citizens of Marco and continued in their actions. City Hall belongs to all of us who live and pay taxes on Marco. It, by all means, should be given a name that is satisfactory to a majority of the citizenry. Council's behavior is nothing less than irresponsible and blinded by their own personal greed for notority. In addition I am surprised that the Tucker family has not gotten the picture that by the methods that our Coucil has used in naming City Hall after their dear beloved they have openned his name up to ridicule for years to come.

Written on VIDEO/POLL: Hiring Dennis Thompson for Collier schools superintendent was mistake, Calabrese says:

I learned from many years of being an educator that those inter-galactic searches by school boards for administrators have a strong tendency to leave one important factor out. That is speak to as many of the people from where you are selecting someone to fill a position as possible. Don't just speak to the other administrators or school board members but speak to a significant number of the parents and teachers. Then try to look at the previous position to the present one that the potential candidate had and speak to the same cross section of people. Usually you will find that the latter will be more honest than where the candidate is presently working. The present employer will say anything to get rid of a poor employee. The former employer will not have anything to gain or lose by their opinion.
A bad administrator can do horrors to a school system.

Written on VIDEO/POLL: Hiring Dennis Thompson for Collier schools superintendent was mistake, Calabrese says:

A man who could not distinguish between criminal assault and kids playing games does not deserve the position he holds. Let some of those kids kick him in the butt out on his tail.

Written on OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN PROMISES, WHERE ARE THEY? (No More Doubletalk by Victor Rios):

Hey they voted for the man who spent 20 years for one day a week or 1000 days going to Rev. Wright and did not hear the words of hatred the evil man said. What makes them think he was telling the truth anywhere else?

Written on Letter To The Editor: Pick up after your pet:

Maybe we should make available poop pick up signs at City Hall for homeowners to use when they have inconsiderate neighbors.

Written on VIDEO&PHOTOS/Marco bridge: Jolley family endorses bridge expansion; asks that name remain:

It is the Judge Jolley Bridge and should stay that! Lets not change the special history this island has just to satisfy someone's ego.

Written on Marco council blog: Resident gets police escort for speaking poorly of late councilman:

To the average Marco taxpayer this whole thing is quite disturbing. Is our City Council concerned as to how this whole process is being perceived by outsiders? Should there not have been a process by which a taxpayer funded building gets named prior to this action? Should the taxpayer be part of the selection process? Who knew that we were going to rename a central building for anyone? This whole thing, right or wrong, should not have been handled in this manner. I would think that the late Councilor Tucker's family would not want the negativism associated with many these posts to be part of his legacy to this city. It would be a shame to think that by failing to provide a forum for such discussions would result in tarnishing of this man's reputation, well deserved or not.

Written on VIDEO: Police escort Marco resident away after he verbally bashes deceased councilman:

To the average Marco taxpayer this whole thing is quite disturbing. Is our City Council concerned as to how this whole process is being perceived by outsiders? Should there not have been a process by which a taxpayer funded building gets named prior to this action? Should the taxpayer be part of the selection process? Who knew that we were going to rename a central building for anyone? This whole thing, right or wrong, should not have been handled in this manner. I would think that the late Councilor Tucker's family would not want the negativism associated with many these posts to be part of his legacy to this city. It would be a shame to think that by failing to provide a forum for such discussions would result in tarnishing of this man's reputation, well deserved or not.

Written on Letter To The Editor: Who can you trust:

Because Mr. Arceri worked for Con Edison and because he is a FORMER councilor does not mean he still runs Marco Island. Just being associated with Con Edison in my way of thinking should bring many questions to ponder. Con Edison, when I lived in N.Y., under their thumb, was NOTORIOUS for raising rates. They were supposed to be under the guidlines of some state utility commission but had THE HIGHEST electric rates in the COUNTRY. The same excuses. We cut back on electric usage in the 70s and guess what? They had to raise rates in order to pay shareholders etc.
Real estate values are somewhat contingent on taxes and utility rates. When I sold real estate in Westchester County there was a street in Yorktown which had New York State Electric and Gas on one side and Con Edison on the other side. The houses that were of the same quality on the Con Edison side were thousand of dollars cheaper than the ones on NYSEG, for no other reason than the difference in electric rates.
Think hard voters, very hard for what you want Marco Island to become. Do we want more puppets or do we want individuals who will think for themselves and us homeowners?????

Written on Letter to the editor: Attacks on Kiester:

Thank You Councilman Kiester! Now it is time for the rest of those who are running to clarify the comments that are pointed in their direction and come clean. Come on, you know who you are. Tis the season to be honest.

Written on Letter to the editor: Attacks on Kiester:

I wish that all the characters in this drama come out of the closet and not hide behind closed doors and mis-directed attacks and set the facts straight. That would be a wonderful Holiday present for all of us.

Written on Letter to the editor: Magel supporter:

Would someone care to post the actual numbers of votes from each entitiy, in the last election, in order to clarify this? The numbers should include possible house owners and possible condo owner to compare percentages. Anything else is opinion.

Written on Letter to the editor: Magel supporter:

Laura,
Very nice respectable letter about a man who in your opinion is a fine gentleman. The question that many of us have is not who the man is but the people who will influence his decisions. The last election turned out to be condo/business owners vs. house owners. It is hard to get away from those facts. I love this Island too, and want to see what is best for it, but not on the backs of the house owners.

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